Big block support observer

[achow101]

Is there a minimum required amount of Bitcoin in an address to post a signed statement in this thread?

[jl2012]

Is there a minimum required amount of Bitcoin in an address to post a signed statement in this thread?

1 satoshi at this moment. I may raise the requirement if there is an evidence of spam.

[redsn0w]

Watch it!

[jl2012]

The BIP101-supporting client has become top 4

[achow101]

The BIP101-supporting client has become top 4

Are there any clients that implement the other BIPs?

[jonald_fyookball]

finally! some self leadership here.  thank you!  even if it is a bct thread.

[jl2012]

Are there any clients that implement the other BIPs?

No AFAIK

[unamis76]

Very interesting thread! Watching. And the short description comparing BIP's is a must. It has been floating for quite some time but many people seem to have never read it.

That being said, good to see quite a bit of support for big blocks from more than half of the hashrate. But until they're validating blocks with another client, it doesn't really mean anything.

(Edited to comply with thread rules)

[jonald_fyookball]

Very interesting thread! Watching. And the short description comparing BIP's is a must. It has been floating for quite some time but many people seem to have never read it.

That being said, good to see quite a bit of support for big blocks from more than half of the hashrate. But until they're validating blocks with **, it doesn't really mean anything.

Why is that?  Neither alternate client nor core supports big blocks now.  Either client can be modified to support bigger blocks when the community agrees.

[redsn0w]

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Rules:
1. This is a self-moderated thread. Posts violating the rules may be removed.
2. This thread is NOT for big block debate. If you want to debate please go somewhere else. I believe there are plenty of places for this.
3. I don't want this tread being censored. Please avoid directly mentioning or linking any specific big block enabling bitcoin client. For sarcasm or not, call them BitcoinXX, Bitcoin**, BitcoinCensored, etc. Welcome to internet censorship
4. No trolling

[unamis76]

Very interesting thread! Watching. And the short description comparing BIP's is a must. It has been floating for quite some time but many people seem to have never read it.

That being said, good to see quite a bit of support for big blocks from more than half of the hashrate. But until they're validating blocks with another client, it doesn't really mean anything.

Why is that?  Neither ********* supports big blocks now.  Either client can be modified to support bigger blocks when the community agrees.

There's a client supporting bigger blocks, as can be seen on release notes.

Rules:
1. This is a self-moderated thread. Posts violating the rules may be removed.
2. This thread is NOT for big block debate. If you want to debate please go somewhere else. I believe there are plenty of places for this.
3. I don't want this tread being censored. Please avoid directly mentioning or linking any specific big block enabling bitcoin client. For sarcasm or not, call them BitcoinXX, Bitcoin**, BitcoinCensored, etc. Welcome to internet censorship
4. No trolling

Thanks for pointing it out, post edited.

[jl2012]

It becomes top 3, though it will be much harder to become top 2.

It is very interesting to see that Bitcoin Core nodes are not decreasing, while the total number of nodes is increasing. This suggests that many BIP101-supporting nodes are new ones.

[Lauda]

Great thread, posting to show my appreciation and to watch it. Interestingly enough a lot of people are not aware of BIP 100.

[cellard]

What does BIP101 mean? Does it mean that some want an official core update with bigger blocks and you should support BIP101 for that? then what is the difference between BIP101 Core and XT?

[jl2012]

What does BIP101 mean? Does it mean that some want an official core update with bigger blocks and you should support BIP101 for that? then what is the difference between BIP101 Core and XX?

BIP101 is Gavin's proposal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153957.msg12153253#msg12153253

BitcoinXX = Bitcoin Core + BIP101 + some non-consensus-critical functions unrelated to block size

[NorrisK]

Looks like the reason we are not seeing a more rapid increase in nodes is the time it takes to synch the blockchain? Could epxlain the sudden surge in nodes, all syncing for a week to come online around the same time?

[jl2012]

Looks like the reason we are not seeing a more rapid increase in nodes is the time it takes to synch the blockchain? Could epxlain the sudden surge in nodes, all syncing for a week to come online around the same time?

I don't think you need to be synced before you are visible on https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

In fact, many BIP101 nodes are syncing, suggesting that they are new ones:

[achow101]

Looks like the reason we are not seeing a more rapid increase in nodes is the time it takes to synch the blockchain? Could epxlain the sudden surge in nodes, all syncing for a week to come online around the same time?

I don't think you need to be synced before you are visible on https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

In fact, many BIP101 nodes are syncing, suggesting that they are new ones:

Do you think it is possible that someone is simply setting up tons of Bitcoin XT nodes just to make it seem like there is more support for it?

Also, am I the first person to do this?

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Comment: Signed by Bitcoin Armory v0.93.2

This address 16mT7jrpkjnJBD7a3TM2awyxHub58H6r6Z with 0.58531338 BTC as of 201508162045UTC supports a combination of BIP 100 and BIP 101 where the voting system and upgrading mechanism from BIP 100 is used as a voting system for voting for the next step increase proposed in the block increase scheme in BIP 101. E.g. for each step up increase proposed in BIP 101, the BIP 100 voting is used to determine whether to go ahead with the increase or postpone for a later date.
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[jl2012]

Looks like the reason we are not seeing a more rapid increase in nodes is the time it takes to synch the blockchain? Could epxlain the sudden surge in nodes, all syncing for a week to come online around the same time?

I don't think you need to be synced before you are visible on https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/

In fact, many BIP101 nodes are syncing, suggesting that they are new ones:

Do you think it is possible that someone is simply setting up tons of Bitcoin XT nodes just to make it seem like there is more support for it?

Someone has created a client which is totally identical to BitcoinXX but actually not supporting BIP101 and will mine blocks with version 0x20000007. This is my response.

getnodes is never reliable as people can always use a botnet to run whatever clients they want. All you are doing is to make XX looks stronger, thank you.

For mining, >90% miners are not anonymous, and >68% has already announced their supports to a block size increase. They may not adopt XX, but don't you believe they will sabotage XX with their real names?

Nice try and try harder.

Also, am I the first person to do this?

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Comment: Signed by Bitcoin Armory v0.93.2

This address 16mT7jrpkjnJBD7a3TM2awyxHub58H6r6Z with 0.58531338 BTC as of 201508162045UTC supports a combination of BIP 100 and BIP 101 where the voting system and upgrading mechanism from BIP 100 is used as a voting system for voting for the next step increase proposed in the block increase scheme in BIP 101. E.g. for each step up increase proposed in BIP 101, the BIP 100 voting is used to determine whether to go ahead with the increase or postpone for a later date.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----


G+Rr7xlQ4ClP55DeJnGGLJma05axXpIxYmeP01zBvuS2v/apjx9jGWrEIFYIPwhN
8y57DUgYlpJnwX7zcVnNbyY=
=LwIm
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Yes. Your message is quoted.

[jl2012]

Update: 201508171735UTC



Increasing steadily. Please note that there are attempts to contaminate the data by spoofing clients. However, the growth looks natural to me: faster at the first 2 days, and now become slower.