My doubt about signing bitcoin sign message.

[scumbag]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

[letyouearn]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

What is the use of staking the old btc address to that thread. ? And after staking the btc address, can i use a new fresh btc address here on forum ? Plz clear my confusion.

[--Encrypted--]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

What is the use of staking the old btc address to that thread. [1] ? And after staking the btc address, can i use a new fresh btc address here on forum[2] ? Plz clear my confusion.

[1] so that you can point to that post when you need to prove your ownership. it's not really needed if you already posted that address somewhere else on this forum

[2] you can use a new fresh btc address anytime. just make sure you don't lose the private key of the old address because someone might ask for a signed message from the staked address.

[letyouearn]

Guys, all of you always ask for a old bitcoin signed message. I want to know, signing up a message from a old posted btc address proves what ?

I mean to say, a professional scammer can buy a alt account with higher rank like " Hero member " and sign a message too . What happened if he scams ?

Can you explain the purpose of signing up a message.

[DaddyMonsi]

Guys, all of you always ask for a old bitcoin signed message. I want to know, signing up a message from a old posted btc address proves what ?

I mean to say, a professional scammer can buy a alt account with higher rank like " Hero member " and sign a message too . What happened if he scams ?

Can you explain the purpose of signing up a message.

The purpose of signing a message is for you to prove you own the account and to prove that you are the same person who owns the account 3 months ago, you can point to an old post with an address that you can sign a message using that old address. its just to prove that its the same person from 3,4 or 5 months ago or depending when was the oldest post. But it doesn't mean one cannot turn into a scammer.

Even if you have a Legendary status if one day you wake up and feels like scamming people, a Legendary member can do that even if he can sign a message from day 1.

[letyouearn]

Another bad thing happened with me. Yesterday,  I have restored my phone by taking a backup of every single stuffs and assume blockchain wallet will also stay as it is after I restored the backup.


Phone was hanging many times and processing was also too slow. That's why , I need to restore my Samsung Mobile Phone.

Now I loose access from both android and online wallet due to main password lost.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Is there no way to display the private key on the bc.info mobile app?

No. We can't access private keys from both Blockchain.info mobile app and mobile UI.

Another bad thing happened with me. Yesterday,  I have restored my phone by taking a backup of every single stuffs and assume blockchain wallet will also stay as it is after I restored the backup.


Phone was hanging many times and processing was also too slow. That's why , I need to restore my Samsung Mobile Phone.

Now I loose access from both android and online wallet due to main password lost.

Your password is changed and your reasons are becoming sketchy. I don't think you can do anything now. The best thing now is to post a new address and continue posting in the forum. If post with new address is a few months old, then you could probably use it to prove ownership.

Edit: Didn't you verify your email in that account? If so, you can reset your password.

[letyouearn]

Is there no way to display the private key on the bc.info mobile app?

No. We can't access private keys from both Blockchain.info mobile app and mobile UI.

Another bad thing happened with me. Yesterday,  I have restored my phone by taking a backup of every single stuffs and assume blockchain wallet will also stay as it is after I restored the backup.


Phone was hanging many times and processing was also too slow. That's why , I need to restore my Samsung Mobile Phone.

Now I loose access from both android and online wallet due to main password lost.

Your password is changed and your reasons are becoming sketchy. I don't think you can do anything now. The best thing now is to post a new address and continue posting in the forum. If post with new address is a few months old, then you could probably use it to prove ownership.

Edit: Didn't you verify your email in that account? If so, you can reset your password.

Yes. I have verified my mail id. But I don't know   how to reset using it. Please , tell me how to reset the password , if its still possible.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Yes. I have verified my mail id. But I don't know   how to reset using it. Please , tell me how to reset the password , if its still possible.

I thought password can be reset but I think I was wrong. Sorry!

Have you enabled email backup? Try to check your email account. Blockchain.info used to send email backups. There maybe a backup in your email too. I don't remember if the option is enabled by default or not.

[Quickseller]

Yes. I have verified my mail id. But I don't know   how to reset using it. Please , tell me how to reset the password , if its still possible.

I thought password can be reset but I think I was wrong. Sorry!

Have you enabled email backup? Try to check your email account. Blockchain.info used to send email backups. There maybe a backup in your email too. I don't remember if the option is enabled by default or not.

It is not possible to reset your password. Your password is what decrypts your wallet and bc.i cannot directly decrypt your wallet without your password. The decryption is done on the client side.

[omahapoker]

You are the only person that has access to that address. You can change it and delete the private key when you wish but you need to create a signature first. Something like. "Iam XXX, i will delete my bitcoin address now and delete this address. I will post a new address now. It is XXXXX."

If you have this then nobody can blame you when you can't sign further messages because the signature is valid and shows that you owned that signature at one point. It should not be possible to fake this.

Did i miss something?

[letyouearn]

You are the only person that has access to that address. You can change it and delete the private key when you wish but you need to create a signature first. Something like. "Iam XXX, i will delete my bitcoin address now and delete this address. I will post a new address now. It is XXXXX."

If you have this then nobody can blame you when you can't sign further messages because the signature is valid and shows that you owned that signature at one point. It should not be possible to fake this.

Did i miss something?

Everything is cleared now. QS suggested me to post a new address from where I can sign a message.

[SebastianJu]

You are the only person that has access to that address. You can change it and delete the private key when you wish but you need to create a signature first. Something like. "Iam XXX, i will delete my bitcoin address now and delete this address. I will post a new address now. It is XXXXX."

If you have this then nobody can blame you when you can't sign further messages because the signature is valid and shows that you owned that signature at one point. It should not be possible to fake this.

Did i miss something?

Everything is cleared now. QS suggested me to post a new address from where I can sign a message.

I think that might not be enough. At least if you want to sell the account or proov ownership in the short term.

What a hacker would do when he hacks an account with the intention to sell it or give it out as collateral would be to delete all addresses you posted and post a new address he controls. If he can't delete an address then he might hope for luck.

If you can't sign a message for the old address then, at least up to some months, your account will look risky for potential buyers. I think it will always be good to be safe. Though i wonder why you would delete a private key at all. Safe the private key or/and import it into your new wallet and you are fine.

I even thought about an attack vector from someone selling an account where he posted a bitcoin address in. Before he sells he posts a new address and deletes the old one. Then he sells the account with a fresh account and writes a signature for the new address. Then he waits until the new owner levelled the account up until it is hero or so. Then claims a stolen account and shows the old address in internet cache. He would get the account probably. Though he has to tell why he was not online for one year of course.

Theoretical attack vector i guess.

But anway... think about if that would be a problem for you.

[letyouearn]

You are the only person that has access to that address. You can change it and delete the private key when you wish but you need to create a signature first. Something like. "Iam XXX, i will delete my bitcoin address now and delete this address. I will post a new address now. It is XXXXX."

If you have this then nobody can blame you when you can't sign further messages because the signature is valid and shows that you owned that signature at one point. It should not be possible to fake this.

Did i miss something?

Everything is cleared now. QS suggested me to post a new address from where I can sign a message.

I think that might not be enough. At least if you want to sell the account or proov ownership in the short term.

What a hacker would do when he hacks an account with the intention to sell it or give it out as collateral would be to delete all addresses you posted and post a new address he controls. If he can't delete an address then he might hope for luck.

If you can't sign a message for the old address then, at least up to some months, your account will look risky for potential buyers. I think it will always be good to be safe. Though i wonder why you would delete a private key at all. Safe the private key or/and import it into your new wallet and you are fine.

I even thought about an attack vector from someone selling an account where he posted a bitcoin address in. Before he sells he posts a new address and deletes the old one. Then he sells the account with a fresh account and writes a signature for the new address. Then he waits until the new owner levelled the account up until it is hero or so. Then claims a stolen account and shows the old address in internet cache. He would get the account probably. Though he has to tell why he was not online for one year of course.

Theoretical attack vector i guess.

But anway... think about if that would be a problem for you.

I have read everything you wrote above. Actually , I was totally new and a noob when I entered In the bitcoin world. I have opened that btc wallet account to start claiming some satoshis from faucets.  I haven't take the mnemonics phrases seriously  and didn't saved it. I can remember my main password always that time. But from the day of attaching that btc address to android wallet. I was only doing transactions using my phone only with the help of PIN. so, there was no need of main password .

Before some days , accidentally my phone get restored and everything finished. 


Your last query answer is I am not going to sell my account in any how.  Bcoz , I always like to be engaged on bitcointalk.org forum and forum members only.

[letyouearn]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

is it really compulsory to stake my old btc message though ? Plz explain me .

[--Encrypted--]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

is it really compulsory to stake my old btc message though ? Plz explain me .

no it's not. actually you are not required (it's recommended, but not required) to do it at all because you already posted your addresses and proved that you own the old one.

[avatar_kiyoshi]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

is it really compulsory to stake my old btc message though ? Plz explain me .

Although is not compulsory, but it's really help you in the future, stake your address there is prove if you're the owner. and if your account got hacked, you just sign message with address which you have already stake on that thread.

[SebastianJu]

If you ever get your account hacked or if you want to sell it then you need to prove that you are the real owner of that account and you are no hacker. Otherwise it would be hard to reclaim your account.

If you sign a message you post publicly then make sure that you include event details. Not that someone takes your general signature and makes trouble.

[letyouearn]

If you ever get your account hacked or if you want to sell it then you need to prove that you are the real owner of that account and you are no hacker. Otherwise it would be hard to reclaim your account.

If you sign a message you post publicly then make sure that you include event details. Not that someone takes your general signature and makes trouble.

1st thing , I am not gonna sell my one and only one account which helps me to earn my pocket money.  I am dreaming to be a legendary member on bitcointalk forum. And as you said about the security issue of my account , I will set the secret question and answers with a strong password for my account safety.

[ranochigo]

stake your address at tomatocage's thread if you plan to use your new bitcoin address
but I guess someone is funding your loan by now from your other thread

is it really compulsory to stake my old btc message though ? Plz explain me .

Do you mean by signing a message with your old address and the message containing the new address? It would help to prove that the account is not compromised if so. If not, you can just stake an address there as it is easier to find your address there.

If you ever get your account hacked or if you want to sell it then you need to prove that you are the real owner of that account and you are no hacker. Otherwise it would be hard to reclaim your account.

If you sign a message you post publicly then make sure that you include event details. Not that someone takes your general signature and makes trouble.

1st thing , I am not gonna sell my one and only one account which helps me to earn my pocket money.  I am dreaming to be a legendary member on bitcointalk forum. And as you said about the security issue of my account , I will set the secret question and answers with a strong password for my account safety.

Changing secret questions and answers with strong passwords would help against bruteforce attacks which the forum have measures to prevent this from happening. Use a different password for different websites, hence you don't need to worry so much if other sites got compromised and hackers cannot access all your accounts. Also, do not download and run any foreign and suspicious programs.