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August 16, 2015, 05:57:19 PM |
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Post-debate, the only two first-tier candidates who held their position were Donald Trump (in the lead) and Marco Rubio (still tied for fourth). The closest to Trump's post-debate 23 percent was Ted Cruz, moving up from a sixth-place tie to claim second place with 13 percent. Ben Carson also got a boost, moving up from being tied for fourth place to sole possession of third place, with 11 percent. Behind these three were Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio, both at 8 percent support. The two big losers, however, were Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, who moved from being tied for second place down to being tied for sixth place, with only 7 percent support. That's a pretty big drop for both of them, neither of whom can now claim to be even close to "frontrunner" status. Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee both got 5 percent, and no other candidate got better than 2 percent. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/new-poll-shakes-up-gop-ra_b_7968588.htmlJeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank. Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you.
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August 16, 2015, 06:01:26 PM |
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We can only hope..... Now lets see the D's do their part and end the Clintons.
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August 16, 2015, 06:02:12 PM |
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We can only hope..... Now lets see the D's do their part and end the Clintons.
B-But then they'd have . . . nothing. Hahahahahahaha . . . sweet!
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August 16, 2015, 06:03:33 PM |
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We can only hope..... Now lets see the D's do their part and end the Clintons.
I think that many of us, Left and Right, look at the political machines that ran this country for many years -- and reject them now. As a hard-Right economic Conservative, I'm very suspicious of the Bush machine... and perversely enough, would find more of benefit to the country today in the Clinton machine -- except for the fact that it wouldn't be Bill leading it. Hillary is a doctrinaire, hyperliberal extremist, left over from the hippie-chick days... brimming with wild-eyed, socialist dogma, to be thrust on a Middle Class America reeling and punch-drunk from eight years of Führer Obama! With Hillary, it will be "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY". But Bush? Well, maybe I've just grown too cynical. Having a deceitful, jive-ass clown like Obama in the Presidency for eight years has left me despairing and very distrustful. And although we on the Right should look at anyone else who isn't an America-hating Socialist as some kind of "brother", I just don't feel the love for the Bush's. Between "Daddy" Bush and his idiot son, "W", we've seen one economy-altering bailout and "rescue" after another, launched, and re-launched. We've seen the negligent financial sector "captains of industry" get off scott-free and make even larger piles of money after being saved from the consequences of financial train wrecks that they caused! This was all done by the Federal Reserve combine, but it was always initiated during Bush administrations! IMO, they were all in it together... "as thick as thieves". Now we're hearing the Jebster starting to mouth some increasing familiar "Republican" themes, like cutting Social Security benefits to people who have EARNED them. We've heard similar things from "Crusader Rick" Santorum, and Governor Butter-tub Christie, who are solid, single-digit contenders.... Truth? I'll probably end up voting for this stupid, negligent, old socialist hippie-chick instead of any Republican if that's what it takes to avoid being robbed of benefits I have EARNED! And there are approximately 80,000,000 other Boomers out there who feel the same way -- and who VOTE..
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August 16, 2015, 06:04:43 PM |
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Jeb is sitting on tons of dough which means the right wing American Legislative Exchange Council wants Jeb in place. More home loan scandals are wanted by the ALEC folks and Jeb has plenty of experience in turning blind eyes. Fraudulent home loan activity is making some folks a lot of dough.
Remember Jeb and cousin George Walker were conveniently on the Lehman Bros payroll when it went belly up.
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August 16, 2015, 06:05:35 PM |
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Thank god, maybe the dems will show a little dignity and unload Hillery. That was a joke, dems have no dignity.
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August 16, 2015, 06:06:17 PM |
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Well seeing as his official platforms seems to be "pick up were my big bro left off." I'm not that surprised he is dead in the water.
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August 16, 2015, 06:07:08 PM |
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Post-debate, the only two first-tier candidates who held their position were Donald Trump (in the lead) and Marco Rubio (still tied for fourth). The closest to Trump's post-debate 23 percent was Ted Cruz, moving up from a sixth-place tie to claim second place with 13 percent. Ben Carson also got a boost, moving up from being tied for fourth place to sole possession of third place, with 11 percent. Behind these three were Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio, both at 8 percent support. The two big losers, however, were Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, who moved from being tied for second place down to being tied for sixth place, with only 7 percent support. That's a pretty big drop for both of them, neither of whom can now claim to be even close to "frontrunner" status. Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee both got 5 percent, and no other candidate got better than 2 percent. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/new-poll-shakes-up-gop-ra_b_7968588.htmlJeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank. Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you. Eight years ago, Rudy Giuliani was leading in the polls. Look how that worked out.
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August 16, 2015, 06:08:06 PM |
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Well seeing as his official platforms seems to be "pick up were my big bro left off." I'm not that surprised he is dead in the water.
I thought Obama already handled that task..quite well,even.
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August 16, 2015, 06:08:55 PM |
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You severely underestimate the Bush camp. They are masters at elections, they are very connected and they have tons of money, its still way early. Wait until they start digging into Trumps past to try and find (or fabricate) things he has done illegally in business deals or ways he swindled money from investors or things he did that violated SEC regulations in some sort of stock deal or pay some former Miss America contestant to come out and say he made sexual advances towards her etc...Its coming.
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August 16, 2015, 06:10:38 PM |
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Eight years ago, Rudy Giuliani was leading in the polls. Look how that worked out.
and 4 years ago at this time, Herman Cain was leading the polls. Polls this early are a bit meaningless, especially with such a small sample size. 414 POTENTIAL Republican voters?
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August 16, 2015, 06:12:00 PM |
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B-But then they'd have . . . nothing. Hahahahahahaha . . . sweet!
So the huge crowds of Democrats that are showing up at Sander's events are figments of our collective imagination?
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August 16, 2015, 06:12:58 PM |
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Wow, why would you lie like that, you don't know him as you claim
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August 16, 2015, 06:13:26 PM |
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So the huge crowds of Democrats that are showing up at Sander's events are figments of our collective imagination?
I can only hope that Sanders gets the nomination from democrats. The vast majority of Americans believe in our free and capitalist society, and Sanders is a socialist, so bub bye Bernie
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August 16, 2015, 06:14:35 PM |
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I can only hope that Sanders gets the nomination from democrats. The vast majority of Americans believe in our free and capitalist society, and Sanders is a socialist, so bub bye Bernie
Pretty much with the array of exclusive Angry, Old, White clowns the dems have as both known presidential contenders and potential presidential contenders the party might as well just concede the 2016 election here and now. Sanders is a freaking socialist, Hillary is openly corrupt, Joe Biden is senile, John Kerry just finished helping Obama shaft the United States with the Iran Nuclear 'deal', and Al Gore has all the personality before the camera lens of a moldering corpse. In contrast the GOP has so many good and dynamic candidates that it just doesn't matter who stays in or drops out during the course of their primaries. So . . . yeah . . . bring 'em on!
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August 16, 2015, 06:20:28 PM |
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GOP fat cat establishment corporate money will keep ! sputtering in the GOP's presidential demolition derby for quite some time, but he actually has Brother Dub's Iraq guru, neocon Wolfowitz, as his foreign policy adviser. That's as close to political hara-kiri as one can get next to twirling the baton in the victory parade through Sadr City. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.salon.com%2F2015%2F08%2Fwolfowitz_jeb.jpg&t=665&c=kONHvzI-pkIxaA) A couple of memorable gems from the architect of the biggest foreign policy diaster in US history: "There's a lot of money to pay for this [Brother Dub's Iraq debacle]. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." The US taxpayer didn't have to spend the two trillion dollars on Wolfy's caprice? Such largesse! “American and alliance forces will be welcomed in Baghdad as liberators." That would be the day after a KKK rally grovels in adoration of President Obama. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F5%2F5f%2FBushduck.PNG%2F220px-Bushduck.PNG&t=665&c=Y5YmY-gkIyVLgQ)
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August 16, 2015, 06:21:13 PM |
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I can only hope that Sanders gets the nomination from democrats. The vast majority of Americans believe in our free and capitalist society, and Sanders is a socialist, so bub bye Bernie
Just as progressive fantasists indulge in the pipe dream of the 'reality tv' entertainer Trump being the GOP nominee.
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August 16, 2015, 06:24:22 PM |
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Jeb is sitting on tons of dough which means the right wing American Legislative Exchange Council wants Jeb in place. More home loan scandals are wanted by the ALEC folks and Jeb has plenty of experience in turning blind eyes. Fraudulent home loan activity is making some folks a lot of dough.
Remember Jeb and cousin George Walker were conveniently on the Lehman Bros payroll when it went belly up.
Very good point! I found this interesting graphic showing connections between ALEC and bush, which probably contributed to his fall from grace(?). http://www.pressherald.com/2012/09/01/virtual-schools-in-maine_2012-09-02/
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August 16, 2015, 06:25:21 PM |
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Good. Now if we can only get rid of Klinton. No more family dynasties. That's something both sides of the aisle can agree on.
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