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August 16, 2015, 11:39:29 PM
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poker is a game based on science because in most cases you have nothing lucky if you could play your opponent as he wants

what branch of science is poker related to?

I am curious to know Smiley

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August 16, 2015, 11:45:45 PM
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After playing thousand of hands and hundreds of games online, it is clear that a lot of it is stake dependant I mean against the lower stakes you better have a lot of luck because you will be flipping a lot of the time. Higher stakes you better be skillful and have descipline to get to the end where you will need a lot of luck to take it down and win the game. In short it is both based on skill and luck and depending on the stake you are playing decides how much of one more than the other is needed.; Oh luck is lovely when it eats you on the river again and again Smiley
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August 16, 2015, 11:54:53 PM
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I'd say 80% is luck. You can bluff a bit and turn the tides with a weak hand but in the end it all comes down to luck. If you're getting bad cards most of the time you'll lose anyway.

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August 17, 2015, 12:08:43 AM
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I'd say 80% is luck. You can bluff a bit and turn the tides with a weak hand but in the end it all comes down to luck. If you're getting bad cards most of the time you'll lose anyway.

can you still getting bad cards over 100k hands ?
can you still be unlucky for over 100K hands ?


poker is a game based on science because in most cases you have nothing lucky if you could play your opponent as he wants

what branch of science is poker related to?

I am curious to know Smiley

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August 17, 2015, 12:17:52 AM
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Definitly a game of skill! You also need luck, but without skill you will never go far...
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August 17, 2015, 01:21:56 AM
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Definitly a game of skill! You also need luck, but without skill you will never go far...

Everyone gets the same amount of "luck" in the long run.
Poker is 100% skill if you consider the law of large numbers.
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August 17, 2015, 01:27:54 AM
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Poker is for the most part a game of skill, but you'll always have variance, which gets bigger when you play turbo or hyper tournaments.

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August 17, 2015, 09:10:06 AM
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More on skill..must know when to go or bluff and you must be unpredictable. Use a poker face.
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August 17, 2015, 09:51:22 AM
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Over the short term the luck is more relevant in poker, a fish can beat a shark in any single hand.  Over several thousands of hands+ the skill starts to win out and luck becomes irrelevant. 

The exception is if you play tournament poker where a losing fish could be on a terrible lifetime run and then win the WSOP main event and be up a few million.
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August 17, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
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poker is a game based on science because in most cases you have nothing lucky if you could play your opponent as he wants

what branch of science is poker related to?

I am curious to know Smiley
math? statistic? probability Roll Eyes

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August 17, 2015, 10:38:56 AM
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poker is a game based on science because in most cases you have nothing lucky if you could play your opponent as he wants

what branch of science is poker related to?

I am curious to know Smiley
math? statistic? probability Roll Eyes

Also social sciences of psychology and sociology both live and online.  Even with online play simple things like reading the timing of a decision is psychology and things like where groups of players play, how they generally play would fall into sociology bracket.
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August 17, 2015, 10:40:45 AM
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50% of luck and 50% of skill

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August 17, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
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Poker for me sometimes just like luck as we get some better cards so than i can beat the whole table, sometimes it behaving like it is only for skilled players so overall for it is 50 50 game.
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August 17, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
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I think it depends on the stake level. If you play micro stakes, where everyone is just flying their chips and going all in all the time, we will need more luck, because although you can beat most of them, there will always be the one that will eventually win.
If you are in high stakes, then is mostly skill. Those guys live from poker, so I can't say that people can consistently be the lucky one.
But even in the micro stakes, if you have a good bankroll management you can play long enough so that the luck factor is reduced.

So for me poker is mostly skill.

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August 17, 2015, 03:34:56 PM
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Mostly skill rather than a chance, just like betting on sport game. If you can analyze what will happen next, you probably will win the game

But for me poker still a complicated game rather than plinko and dice
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August 17, 2015, 04:07:02 PM
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I love poker because its complexity, which we also need skill beside luck. I havent played it in real life actually, but its still the best card game for me although playing it online.

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August 17, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
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Mostly skill rather than a chance, just like betting on sport game.

Poker is pretty much different than sportsbetting. Unlike sportsbetting, poker allow you to minimize your lost depending on the situation of the ongoing game , plus that you are actually playing against another players instead of the house and your winning amount is pretty much varies depending on the situation and not depending to the odds unlike sportsbetting

If you can analyze what will happen next, you probably will win the game

You are not a psychic and you can possibly know what will happen next so it is rather a matter of luck and not skills indeed. No one knows exactly what may happen next and things could happen as something unexpected might happen which is why we have a bad beat in Poker which usually happens when someone is pretty confident with his card and ended up luck plays a vital part of the lost

But for me poker still a complicated game rather than plinko and dice

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August 17, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
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I think it depends on the stake level. If you play micro stakes, where everyone is just flying their chips and going all in all the time, we will need more luck, because although you can beat most of them, there will always be the one that will eventually win.
If you are in high stakes, then is mostly skill. Those guys live from poker, so I can't say that people can consistently be the lucky one.
But even in the micro stakes, if you have a good bankroll management you can play long enough so that the luck factor is reduced.

So for me poker is mostly skill.

If you play micro stakes and everyone is flying in their chips with any hand you just sit tight until you have decent hands and you'll have a nice win rate in a game like that.  Play tight when others are loose play loose when others are tight.
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August 17, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
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It's really depends on the variant of poker you're playing. If you're play Pai Gow, it is more of a luck based game. If you're playing Hold'Em, there is definitely more skill involved.

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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August 17, 2015, 05:14:16 PM
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50% of luck and 50% of skill
Much more skill than that, especially if you can count. Counting cards is definitely a skill!

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