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Question: Is NXT a scam?
Yes - 49 (24.4%)
No - 152 (75.6%)
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September 11, 2015, 04:45:03 AM
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so why people think NXT is scam coin ?

Apparently because mt gox was a scam as well, I guess.  Huh
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September 11, 2015, 05:48:22 AM
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Guess what you'll find when you Google images for "ethereum wallet"... Wink


If NXT is a scam then Ethereum is even bigger one.
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September 11, 2015, 07:57:56 AM
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NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

I like such games. My turn:

iCEBREAKER = Titanic = Eisberg = A lot of people killed = Hitler

Hahaha, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law this thread can be closed.
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September 11, 2015, 08:03:21 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t

Oracle supports security through obscurity model and embarrassingly demands their clients to stop reverse engineering and looking for flaws within their products.

Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK?
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September 11, 2015, 08:25:46 AM
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I read more coment above, but im still confusing about NXT
NXT is scam if this coin can't used to pay something, but this coin can use to create other "new cryptocurrency" called NXT asset

so why people think NXT is scam coin ?

NXT is not just a scam coin, it's also a scam platform which supports creation of scam assets backed by nothing but vapor and hype.

Don't you realise how pathetic your trolling looks now that the market rates all these coins, you FUD so incessantly, higher than your shit clone Monero?


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September 11, 2015, 01:59:09 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2015, 02:11:33 PM by BitUsher
 #126

https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t

Oracle supports security through obscurity model and embarrassingly demands their clients to stop reverse engineering and looking for flaws within their products.

Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK?

Sure, don't read into my comments too much as comparing the security of different languages is very complex. I was merely suggesting that many of the security criticisms that researchers have levied against java and oracle for both ignoring and delaying patching security flaws are a result of a Oracle mismanagement and creating a hostile environment to security researchers.  That blog post I referenced is both disgraceful, hilarious , and disturbing at the same time. The fact that it came from the CSO at Oracle should have provoked the board to fire Mary Ann Davidson immediately. For her to not have stepped down in embarrassment with this fiasco means there still exists a climate antagonistic towards open and collaborative effort in discovering and patching security holes within Oracle and thus Java which is largely controlled and maintained by Oracle developers.

Right now , unless absolutely needed many security researchers advise removing or disabling Java altogether. The irony is many banks force their clients to install Java expressly for security with online banking which makes many computers vulnerable to other vectors of attack.

P.S... I wouldn't call Nxt a scam at this point(although I don't see it going anywhere either), and while I prefer C++ over Java for many reasons it is good for an ecosystem to have many implementations like in bitcoin(I.E..bitcoinj, ect...)
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September 11, 2015, 03:20:44 PM
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so if you don't use java whats a much superior language to use?
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September 11, 2015, 03:42:37 PM
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NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

I like such games. My turn:

iCEBREAKER = Titanic = Eisberg = A lot of people killed = Hitler

Hahaha, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law this thread can be closed.

If NXT is a scam then Ethereum is even bigger one.

It sure feels like this community is devolving into frustrated suicide.

Seriously the community is dying. All sorts of dysfunctional crap going on.

No strong leaders since Satoshi left.

Lots of self-important masturbation ever since.

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September 11, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
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QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!! 

They have a Java virtual machine in them!  Cheesy  Roll Eyes

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September 11, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
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only time can tell.
as of now, they are the one who has the most features out there working for public.
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September 11, 2015, 04:23:10 PM
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QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!!  


I agree , CC and debit cards are notoriously insecure and flawed conceptually in many different aspects . The quicker we can move away from them the better. There will be a time in the future where we will tell stories to our children who will be aghast with shock and horror at the very idea that we used to give over all the information to commit both identity theft and future illicit transactions with every purchase and than store that information in multiple insecure databases awaiting to be exploited as well.
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September 11, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
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I Think like many a coin it started with main intention of enriching the creator, but as with any coin that gets a foothold you must reach a point where being reputable and honest become more profitable.NXT is well past being a scam coin i think. Look at Dark, now squeky clean DASH .
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September 11, 2015, 04:24:24 PM
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QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!! 


I agree , CC and debit cards are notoriously insecure and flawed conceptually in many different aspects . The quicker we can move away from them the better.


heh, thats not the fault of Java....but the EMV spec and protocol, which is nothing to do with Java at all.

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September 11, 2015, 04:27:18 PM
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so if you don't use java whats a much superior language to use?

Java or C#, no other good choices. BTW, Intel picked the former for its novel tech - https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-inde-multi-os-early-access. Some guys say that Java is bad? They must be smarter than Intel then, LOL.
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September 11, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
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So you guys are saying to me that a coin like NXT, which has resolved many core issues, have integrated tons of new features, has a functional lightweight wallet, has all sorts of great and helpful features, is just worth a trash?

You gotta be kidding me guys, it is the most innovative coin in the top 10. Fuck Ethereum, it doesnt even have a GUI wallet. NXT is probably the 2nd best after Bitcoin.

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September 11, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
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so if you don't use java whats a much superior language to use?

Java or C#, no other good choices. BTW, Intel picked the former for its novel tech - https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-inde-multi-os-early-access. Some guys say that Java is bad? They must be smarter than Intel then, LOL.

Android selected Java. Bad result:


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September 11, 2015, 04:47:28 PM
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heh, thats not the fault of Java....but the EMV spec and protocol, which is nothing to do with Java at all.

Yes, Java has a whole other list of concerns.

http://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/java/
http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/lp/2014-annual-security-report/index.html
http://disablejava.com/
http://www.darkreading.com/attacks-and-breaches/java-under-attack-again-disable-now/d/d-id/1108136
http://www.darkreading.com/attacks-and-breaches/java-still-not-safe-security-experts-say/d/d-id/1106169?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/03/another-java-zero-day-exploit-in-the-wild-actively-attacking-targets/
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/02/javas-latest-security-problems-new-flaw-identified-old-one-attacked/

Many security researchers are recommending you to either disable java or set aside a separate browser with java just to use when you absolutely need to because oracle has been known to delay or ignore vulnerabilities.

http://usa.kaspersky.com/about-us/press-center/in-the-news/should-you-disable-java-your-computer

Simply immediately patching and keeping vigilant is not good enough if the patches aren't released in a timely fashion.

 
Java or C#, no other good choices. BTW, Intel picked the former for its novel tech - https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-inde-multi-os-early-access. Some guys say that Java is bad? They must be smarter than Intel then, LOL.

Java is ok , and certainly has gotten much better over the years with JIT, but still not as efficient or secure, generally, than C++.
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September 11, 2015, 05:13:32 PM
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Java is ok , and certainly has gotten much better over the years with JIT, but still not as efficient or secure, generally, than C++.

"Efficient" point may be valid if you compare Java against C++ compiled for the targetted processor (otherwise JIT will win in most cases). "Secure" point is wrong, security is one of the main contracts of Java.
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September 11, 2015, 05:23:54 PM
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but still not as efficient or secure, generally, than C++.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57643/focus=57918 (Linus Torvalds)

http://whydoesitsuck.com/cpp-sucks-for-a-reason/

http://flyx.org/2014/04/24/cpp_sucks/

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September 11, 2015, 05:25:51 PM
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C#

Find my answer there. I am "Shelby Moore III":

http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/176665/generics-and-type-erasure

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