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October 10, 2016, 05:13:54 PM
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Quote from: dinda22 link=topic=1155775.msg16517466#msg16517466

if manchester united difficult finish in top 4, it would be very difficult to become champions of Europa League. in fact, you can see two games of manchester united in the Europa league. The first game, they lose. then when they played at home against very weak teams seem difficult to score and could only win by one goal. here seen the problem of manchester united very heavy.

There is no correlation between if MU difficult to finish top 4 on EPL with their chance to win Europa League. Both are different competition, if Mou feel that they cant finish on top 4 then he should be realistic to focus on how to win Europa League. Or if Mou is not interested to win the Europa League then he can more focus on EPL.
Still to early to say that they have small chance on both competitions. Lets see what Mou can do for his team. Even though I doubt they can improve faster but I'm sure the time will come for MU.

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October 10, 2016, 05:52:26 PM
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Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern M.@4.5
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
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October 10, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
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Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern M.@4.5
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.

How about Atletico Madrid. I think they can win this year the champions. They have shown a really good football and they play against some of the heavy weight champions like Barca and Real in their domestic league. For sure for an odd of 13 I would give it a try.

Imagine people who have lots of bitcoins , there would be no problem for them betting 1 Bitcoin for 13 bitcoins of wins and 12 bitcoins pure profit, that's some more than 7000 USD with a 600 USD bet.
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October 10, 2016, 06:06:00 PM
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Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
I'm not at all agree with you. I think this year again, we will see a Spanish team win the Champions League but maybe the last. For me the best odd is that for Atlético Madrid or eventually Dortmund can create the surprise this year.

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October 10, 2016, 06:42:16 PM
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I think this year the Germans will take a shot at taking the Champions League trophy home and I believe either Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund will manage to win it. The English teams don't fare well in UEFA competitions and the Spanish teams have too many trophies already so I think it's due time for the Germans to win some now  Grin
it is time for the Champions League trophy back to the country of Italy. and the trophy this year will be earned by Juventus. by looking at the squad and the game they deserve to get a Champions League title this year.
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October 11, 2016, 02:11:28 AM
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Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern M.@4.5
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.

That's really hard to say until you see the draw in the knock out stages.  What if Bayern Munich drew Barca or Real in the KO stages or the quarter finals?  Luck plays a very big factor in the CL because it's a tournament format.  And the draw at every stage makes it feel kinda like a lottery.

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October 11, 2016, 06:02:02 AM
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Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern M.@4.5
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.

That's really hard to say until you see the draw in the knock out stages.  What if Bayern Munich drew Barca or Real in the KO stages or the quarter finals?  Luck plays a very big factor in the CL because it's a tournament format.  And the draw at every stage makes it feel kinda like a lottery.

Yes all true but if we wait more odds will lower. This is the time to put a risky bet on which team is going to win the Champions League. I pick Juventus, my choice, all in!
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October 11, 2016, 06:06:01 AM
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Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern M.@4.5
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.

my predict will be the winner in the champions league is
Barcelona or Manchester City, but Tottenham big a chance too.

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October 11, 2016, 06:08:08 AM
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That's really hard to say until you see the draw in the knock out stages.  What if Bayern Munich drew Barca or Real in the KO stages or the quarter finals?  Luck plays a very big factor in the CL because it's a tournament format.  And the draw at every stage makes it feel kinda like a lottery.

Even if they play against a tough team before the final game it will be no problem for them if they could win ahainst them however both barcelona or real madrid is a tough team to beat even with bayern munich at the full force the chancd to win still lingers around 50% chance or much more less than that
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October 11, 2016, 06:57:41 AM
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That's really hard to say until you see the draw in the knock out stages.  What if Bayern Munich drew Barca or Real in the KO stages or the quarter finals?  Luck plays a very big factor in the CL because it's a tournament format.  And the draw at every stage makes it feel kinda like a lottery.

Even if they play against a tough team before the final game it will be no problem for them if they could win ahainst them however both barcelona or real madrid is a tough team to beat even with bayern munich at the full force the chancd to win still lingers around 50% chance or much more less than that

It really depends how in form their team is and if there are injuries with their key players.  There was a reason why Bayern Munich couldn't win under their new manager at that time which was Pep Guardiola.  He stayed there for three years and brought with him new tactics, strategy and a new philosophy.  But still no CL trophy.  And even the best in the tournament which are Barca and Real are both not a sure bet.  This is because of the tournament format and the draw made before the KO stages and the quarter finals.  Luck becomes a bigger factor in that format.

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October 11, 2016, 05:01:03 PM
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Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
I'm not at all agree with you. I think this year again, we will see a Spanish team win the Champions League but maybe the last. For me the best odd is that for Atlético Madrid or eventually Dortmund can create the surprise this year.
I agree with you, teams from Spain have always dominated the UEFA Champions League during the last 3 years. I think this year will happen again. I don't think bayern munich, because it always does the same thing in the last 3 years always lose in the semi-finals. Juventus may be the same as bayern munich, only up to the semi-finals.

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October 11, 2016, 05:05:14 PM
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Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
I'm not at all agree with you. I think this year again, we will see a Spanish team win the Champions League but maybe the last. For me the best odd is that for Atlético Madrid or eventually Dortmund can create the surprise this year.
I agree with you, teams from Spain have always dominated the UEFA Champions League during the last 3 years. I think this year will happen again. I don't think bayern munich, because it always does the same thing in the last 3 years always lose in the semi-finals. Juventus may be the same as bayern munich, only up to the semi-finals.


It may seems that both team from spain especially real madrid and barcelona is dominating it however one thing for sure. Bayern munich has a solid chance to win the champions league with ancelotti. Afterall ancelotti is a top manager and he won the champions league with most club that he has coached
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October 11, 2016, 08:48:13 PM
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Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
I'm not at all agree with you. I think this year again, we will see a Spanish team win the Champions League but maybe the last. For me the best odd is that for Atlético Madrid or eventually Dortmund can create the surprise this year.
I agree with you, teams from Spain have always dominated the UEFA Champions League during the last 3 years. I think this year will happen again. I don't think bayern munich, because it always does the same thing in the last 3 years always lose in the semi-finals. Juventus may be the same as bayern munich, only up to the semi-finals.


It may seems that both team from spain especially real madrid and barcelona is dominating it however one thing for sure. Bayern munich has a solid chance to win the champions league with ancelotti. Afterall ancelotti is a top manager and he won the champions league with most club that he has coached
make no mistake, rivals Bayern Munich for the title this season's Champions League was Juventus. they are very eager to get the title. representatives of Serie A will be all out to get the Champions League title this season.
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October 11, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
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Italian teams are good but I don't think they are Champions material. And I think Juventus have lost their mojo after selling some key players. Juventus might get through to the semis but I highly doubt they will make it to the final.
But I have to admit that after Leicester won that title defying odds of 5000:1 I would say never say never  Grin Juventus might very well lift the trophy who knows.
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October 12, 2016, 06:22:34 AM
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Italian teams are good but I don't think they are Champions material. And I think Juventus have lost their mojo after selling some key players. Juventus might get through to the semis but I highly doubt they will make it to the final.
But I have to admit that after Leicester won that title defying odds of 5000:1 I would say never say never  Grin Juventus might very well lift the trophy who knows.

They might be able to do so, afterall they now have a top striker with them. Higuain might atleast be able to do one or two things for juventus. There is no way to tell how things will be going out however almost everyone still stand a good chance to win the champions league however no denying that top chances belongs to real madrid and barcelona
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October 12, 2016, 11:47:23 AM
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Italian teams are good but I don't think they are Champions material. And I think Juventus have lost their mojo after selling some key players. Juventus might get through to the semis but I highly doubt they will make it to the final.
But I have to admit that after Leicester won that title defying odds of 5000:1 I would say never say never  Grin Juventus might very well lift the trophy who knows.
last time Inter is the champion at 2006 and since that italian teams was never be the champion almost for 10 years and actually Juventus almost did it two years ago but unfortunately Barcelona is too strong for them and they lost 3-1 and even though plenty strong teams who dominate champion league but doesn't mean other teams also not have chance to got the trophy and as you says that every teams have same opportunity maybe this season will belong for Juventus but obviously if they were lucky
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October 12, 2016, 12:07:08 PM
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No way for MC wins the trophy, the winner will be from big 3, aka, barca, bayern, real.

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October 12, 2016, 07:58:30 PM
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No way for MC wins the trophy, the winner will be from big 3, aka, barca, bayern, real.
Juventus why do not you put in the list of potential winners Champions League this year? I think Juventus was eligible to become a candidate the winner of the Champions League this season.  Grin Grin Grin
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October 12, 2016, 10:34:23 PM
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No way for MC wins the trophy, the winner will be from big 3, aka, barca, bayern, real.
Juventus why do not you put in the list of potential winners Champions League this year? I think Juventus was eligible to become a candidate the winner of the Champions League this season.  Grin Grin Grin

I don't    think juventus is a stong candidates to win the champions league this season. I saw a different play in Juventus with last season.  If we compare Juventus with this 3 (Bayern Munchen, Barcelona, and Real Madrid)
 I think juventus is not strong enough to beat them.
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October 12, 2016, 11:41:18 PM
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Italian teams are good but I don't think they are Champions material. And I think Juventus have lost their mojo after selling some key players. Juventus might get through to the semis but I highly doubt they will make it to the final.
But I have to admit that after Leicester won that title defying odds of 5000:1 I would say never say never  Grin Juventus might very well lift the trophy who knows.
last time Inter is the champion at 2006 and since that italian teams was never be the champion almost for 10 years and actually Juventus almost did it two years ago but unfortunately Barcelona is too strong for them and they lost 3-1 and even though plenty strong teams who dominate champion league but doesn't mean other teams also not have chance to got the trophy and as you says that every teams have same opportunity maybe this season will belong for Juventus but obviously if they were lucky

lol where you get that information about inter milan was the champion at 2006? it was totally wrong , inter milan won champions league at season 2009/2010 under jose mourinho they make a treble winner that year and it is the last time i see a golden age on italian teams.

inter milan have diego milito , samuel eto'o and sneijder on fire with jose mourinho as a manager at 2009/2010 . now they are rubbish.

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