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December 21, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
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I think Ole Gunnar Solskjaer would surely be having a headache now as he have to sort out the mess in Manchester United left by Jose Mourinho, and Manchester United would need to play against Paris Saint Germain in the round of 16 at the Uefa Champions League. I do not see much hope for Manchester United to progress to the quarter-finals in this tournament as it would usually take more than a few months for a new manager to stabilize a team, with the round of 16 starting in February 2019, I think Ole Gunnar Solskjaer might not have enough time to sort out everything before facing Paris Saint Germain.

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Seriously europa cup looks so weird right now, its like potentially champions league level of games there. There are teams like Villareal, Valencia, Shaktar, CHELSEA, Napoli, Inter and many teams of that level seems to be in there. It really makes no sense how all of these teams are here, some of them potentially be good enough to make it to europa only but teams like Chealsea being here is really creating and unfair advantage over other teams.

The purpose of europa has always been making the lesser smaller clubs to have an European cup chance as well but recently the champions league became such huge deal that even teams like Chealsea and Inter are relegating to europa now. This will create a system where even the semi-finals of europa will be all filled with huge teams and the smaller teams in all around Europe will have hard time winning the cup.
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December 21, 2018, 02:59:46 PM
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Seriously europa cup looks so weird right now, its like potentially champions league level of games there. There are teams like Villareal, Valencia, Shaktar, CHELSEA, Napoli, Inter and many teams of that level seems to be in there. It really makes no sense how all of these teams are here, some of them potentially be good enough to make it to europa only but teams like Chealsea being here is really creating and unfair advantage over other teams.

The purpose of europa has always been making the lesser smaller clubs to have an European cup chance as well but recently the champions league became such huge deal that even teams like Chealsea and Inter are relegating to europa now. This will create a system where even the semi-finals of europa will be all filled with huge teams and the smaller teams in all around Europe will have hard time winning the cup.
In recent decades Europa league is usually won by big clubs. And I don't think it's bad. Fans can enjoy top class football. Because for example group stage of Europa league is full of small clubs and it's not very interesting to watch these matches, unless you're fan of that team.
Now UEFA are planning to create third club tournament:
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/news/newsid=2585829.html. They will reduce number of teams in Europa league and will send small teams to third tournament. Small clubs aren't beneficial for UEFA. This new tournament basically means that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.




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December 21, 2018, 03:57:06 PM
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Seriously europa cup looks so weird right now, its like potentially champions league level of games there. There are teams like Villareal, Valencia, Shaktar, CHELSEA, Napoli, Inter and many teams of that level seems to be in there. It really makes no sense how all of these teams are here, some of them potentially be good enough to make it to europa only but teams like Chealsea being here is really creating and unfair advantage over other teams.

The purpose of europa has always been making the lesser smaller clubs to have an European cup chance as well but recently the champions league became such huge deal that even teams like Chealsea and Inter are relegating to europa now. This will create a system where even the semi-finals of europa will be all filled with huge teams and the smaller teams in all around Europe will have hard time winning the cup.
Even though the winners of the Uefa Europa League are usually the bigger and famous football clubs, but I think the Uefa Europa League still provides a very good opportunity for smaller football clubs to gain some experience from this tournament as all of the smaller football clubs might have a chance to play against bigger and stronger football clubs. And if this tournament never exist in the first place, the smaller football clubs around Europe will rarely have a chance to play against big teams, so I believe the Uefa Europa League still serves its purpose for the growth of European football.

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December 30, 2018, 05:58:01 AM
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I think you have a point there because the bigger clubs that exit the champions league group stages after finishing third gain automatic entry into the Europa league and it's indeed biased against the smaller clubs looking at the annual expenditure of some of those clubs like Chelsea for instance, they can virtually pay off opposing teams for them to loose or outplay them with their big stars and win the trophy easily and so i will admonish Uefa to develop systems in the near future to curb these imbalances and promote fair play.
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I think you have a point there because the bigger clubs that exit the champions league group stages after finishing third gain automatic entry into the Europa league and it's indeed biased against the smaller clubs looking at the annual expenditure of some of those clubs like Chelsea for instance, they can virtually pay off opposing teams for them to loose or outplay them with their big stars and win the trophy easily and so i will admonish Uefa to develop systems in the near future to curb these imbalances and promote fair play.

While I agree that Champions League rules give an unfair advantage to the big clubs, I believe it's an opportunity for the small clubs to step up and gain more experience against the big clubs. Also there have been calls to scrap the champions league exit and entry rule into Europa League, but I don't see it happening as clubs and the leagues will loose out on revenue. I don't think Chelsea would do it especially for a cup like Europa, many top teams don't really prioritise it. They only will try winning it if they will be finishing outside top four in their league, and wish to have direct entry in champions league by winning the Europa cup.

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January 03, 2019, 10:35:59 AM
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While I agree that Champions League rules give an unfair advantage to the big clubs, I believe it's an opportunity for the small clubs to step up and gain more experience against the big clubs. Also there have been calls to scrap the champions league exit and entry rule into Europa League, but I don't see it happening as clubs and the leagues will loose out on revenue. I don't think Chelsea would do it especially for a cup like Europa, many top teams don't really prioritise it. They only will try winning it if they will be finishing outside top four in their league, and wish to have direct entry in champions league by winning the Europa cup.

The rules are unfair for the small clubs indeed but the structure of Champions and Europa league is like this in order to give big matches between the biggest clubs in Europe. As the competition reaches near the finals, the crowd wants to see great matches that will give them adrenaline and excitement. Same goes for the clubs that come third they have the advantage to go to the Europa League and play together in the final, semi-final and give to the fans an interesting match.

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While I agree that Champions League rules give an unfair advantage to the big clubs, I believe it's an opportunity for the small clubs to step up and gain more experience against the big clubs. Also there have been calls to scrap the champions league exit and entry rule into Europa League, but I don't see it happening as clubs and the leagues will loose out on revenue. I don't think Chelsea would do it especially for a cup like Europa, many top teams don't really prioritise it. They only will try winning it if they will be finishing outside top four in their league, and wish to have direct entry in champions league by winning the Europa cup.

The rules are unfair for the small clubs indeed but the structure of Champions and Europa league is like this in order to give big matches between the biggest clubs in Europe. As the competition reaches near the finals, the crowd wants to see great matches that will give them adrenaline and excitement. Same goes for the clubs that come third they have the advantage to go to the Europa League and play together in the final, semi-final and give to the fans an interesting match.

Well whole concept was changed long time ago back in 90s this was completely different and there were no team that are in good position for something it was much better to watch this cuz back then every team was able to win. Now we know almost from the start list of 6-8 team that will play semis in both Champions league or Europe league. This is boring but this is something that UEFA need to work out but this is something that will remain same and most of all if we have so many teams from same country in second faze then there must be removed right to team from same country cannot play each other.
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).

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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).


I favour Manchester United to win provided their leaky defence holds up, I see no reason why Manchester United can't walk away as winners. Manchester United have the worlds best keeper, worlds best midfielder and an exciting team, while Psg has big player like Neymar I feel Ole tactics will play a crucial role. I have a different opinion about Mourinho approach he would have fielded Fellaini, Mactommy and tried to slow the play, while Ole will simply attack and hurt Psg on the counter. Honestly had Mourinho been at the helm Psg would have won it easily, now they'll be fearing this Manchester United side.

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January 05, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).


I favour Manchester United to win provided their leaky defence holds up, I see no reason why Manchester United can't walk away as winners. Manchester United have the worlds best keeper, worlds best midfielder and an exciting team, while Psg has big player like Neymar I feel Ole tactics will play a crucial role. I have a different opinion about Mourinho approach he would have fielded Fellaini, Mactommy and tried to slow the play, while Ole will simply attack and hurt Psg on the counter. Honestly had Mourinho been at the helm Psg would have won it easily, now they'll be fearing this Manchester United side.

Well PSG is a different team now from what they used to be years ago, and so for Manchester United to win this tie will take quite a lot from them and currently they are still in a recovery process and i don't think they are there yet even though they have had some impressive results recently. It's a mouthwatering tie and i still think PSG has the edge over United.
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January 05, 2019, 01:56:26 PM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).


I favour Manchester United to win provided their leaky defence holds up, I see no reason why Manchester United can't walk away as winners. Manchester United have the worlds best keeper, worlds best midfielder and an exciting team, while Psg has big player like Neymar I feel Ole tactics will play a crucial role. I have a different opinion about Mourinho approach he would have fielded Fellaini, Mactommy and tried to slow the play, while Ole will simply attack and hurt Psg on the counter. Honestly had Mourinho been at the helm Psg would have won it easily, now they'll be fearing this Manchester United side.

I'm not too sure about them winning it easier under their new manager vs PSG but since I like your post, I think I might just go with it and make a dumb bet on the CL futures. 

Been saying it for months now but I haven't pulled the trigger.  Lol.

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January 05, 2019, 03:45:42 PM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).

Taking a look on some betting sites, Manchester United odds are quite good vs PSG which won previously in 2015. Hard match with high risk of loss  Wink
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Taking a look on some betting sites, Manchester United odds are quite good vs PSG which won previously in 2015. Hard match with high risk of loss  Wink
Well according to Bet365 PSG is going to win. The odd for PSG is 6/5. It will be a hard game. Both Man U and PSG have some good players and in their day they can change any equation.

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Taking a look on some betting sites, Manchester United odds are quite good vs PSG which won previously in 2015. Hard match with high risk of loss  Wink
Well according to Bet365 PSG is going to win. The odd for PSG is 6/5. It will be a hard game. Both Man U and PSG have some good players and in their day they can change any equation.

Manchester Untied is different club now with new coach but to be honest they were playing against small clubs
For sure Man United has enough class players to will battle against PSG
It will be close games and i think we can expect some goals .Man United is very offensive now PSG has best strikers
On paper PSG is a little better but just a little exactly like on odds on game 6/5 PSG

 
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January 06, 2019, 02:59:36 PM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).

When there was Mou in charge, I didn't see any chances for MU to win against PSG. But now MU is hot team, it's become interesting to watch them playing. Now I would say this pair is 50/50. Ok, maybe PSG have slightly better chances, but I think everything can happen in this pair. It should be very interesting matches to watch.




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January 06, 2019, 04:00:55 PM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).


With PSG, you never know. They can beat anyone in Europe but can also be crushed 6-1 by Barca lol.
It all depends on their motivation on a specific day.
But on paper, MU's defense is no match for players like Mbappe, Neymar, Cavani...
PSG are favorites but again...
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^  ...  You never know.  Wink

And it's the KO stages.  Any club has a higher chance of going thru than what the bookies' lines make it look.

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January 06, 2019, 07:35:07 PM
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^  ...  You never know.  Wink

And it's the KO stages.  Any club has a higher chance of going thru than what the bookies' lines make it look.

During these stages bookies always try to play us, I think though that this stage will show favourites going through although you really never know who the favourite is in these couples. I think we may see some games go to extra time after the two legs are played.

Champions league is always a good event to try and win some money.

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January 06, 2019, 08:33:18 PM
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What do you guys think of Man United vs PSG at the KO stages?  Man United's odds of getting thru has prolly gone up with Mou gone (but then again, I like Mou's pragmatic approach in tourneys).


This PSG with big names is really fluid and compact team can easily humiliate Man. Utd. red devils are looking better with new coach but still lack creativity and speed compared to Neymar and Mbape. PSG is mega project now just like Galacticos used to be a decade ago.
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