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August 25, 2015, 11:21:03 PM |
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What happend to industrialcoin? MIA? Why?
Who is ICM and what is happened?
You can discover reading from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110730.msg12065107#msg12065107Basically, ICM delivered part that he promised to crave, less the principal: the markets. Since april he only misleads investors, saying that markets are ready and will be released "this week". Since June I and a few others realize that he's a sociopath and was just having fun watching their investors losing money and we began to think about a plan B. Instead of release the market to crave, he created and sold a market for sling, a competing currency that cloned crave code and he also began creating other currencies and C-CEX ICO scams together with a pump&dump group, with some features that he had promised to crave. These currencies are: grav, nanas, versa, axiom, xai, spreadcoin, circ and probably other. He was reported that we would make a takeover if he didn't present anything, not even a print of what he said be ready. He didn't and disappeared 15 days ago. We will complete the takeover so starin return, probably tomorrow. ICM was doxxed by thelion07. He is Joseph Mozeleski, responsible for various scams since 2014, starting with cloak coin. He is a great coder and could complete all his projects, but he is a sociopath who have fun making people lose money and "crave" for him. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FORl8AjO.jpg&t=670&c=gA3QgQujJV2xtA) Joe Moz seems to like wings and shields, well there are no angels and shields protecting him this time It is all coming together, portion of my conversation with him in May![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJwDZdqb.jpg&t=670&c=zyP-fmofYCPGWA)
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horiacretan1
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August 25, 2015, 11:22:28 PM |
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Haha he asked the community if we wanted PoW again, we said no.
What fucking community ? It seems like the minority has saved this coin and not the majority or the "community", so i really think if you are so dependent on a Dev, then maybe the Dev should decide what he wants to do, and not ask any fuck here for an opinion. You little shits invest on a coin that has a Dev, the Dev dies you humps cry murder, when another Dev comes back, you guys have demands, and are quick to criticize, as if your say fucking matters now. I beg all the little crying cunts here, to please sell your fucking coins and go suck a dick else where, cause no Dev owes you shit, you invest if you want and nobody put a gun to your head. If you cannot stomach a coin with a Dev owner, then by all means keep your BTC.
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horiacretan1
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August 25, 2015, 11:27:30 PM |
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You know what - I will put a poll for what PoW Reward System - That is what I can do
Why are you bothering us with this POW shit? Do you believe in this coin or what? If you turn CRAVE into pow , we'll dump all the coins we own and Crave will be 0$ worth Do you like working for nothing? Create your own POW coin and let CRAVE be the coin it has been since its birth Sell your shit and get the fuck out. You crying bitch, then go make your own coin. Without him this coin was $0 anyway.
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horiacretan1
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August 25, 2015, 11:32:38 PM |
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Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.
we said no.
He is doing it anyways.
How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.
Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.
Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.
STFU stupid, what is trust got to do with this, does your pea brain understand that this coin is backed by nothing ? The reason you fucks sold it for anything ? It needs you to fucking earn these coins a little, so you will think twice about selling again at 8000 sat. And if you backed this coin from day 1, why would you get out now that we finally have something good going ? And why do you assume the Dev has big mining power, and if he does, he paid big money for it, and i am sure he has no solar panels in his house either, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F993%2F496%2F025.jpg&t=670&c=GgUJqFw733n7fQ) I read your last ten posts. All you do is swear and yell. You sound like a moron. Mad ?, no,...it seems like all the pansies here cry and all of a sudden have a big mouth, me on the other hand, i would rather have all your big mouths wrapped around my stick.
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horiacretan1
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August 25, 2015, 11:37:07 PM |
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Nobody likes Sha256, but everyone loves Bitcoin, guess what ? Bitcoin is Sha256, and has no Dev either.
Strange logic, nobody likes that the algo for a POS coin is being changed, that's all. Oh and by the way, this one does have a dev not everyone is happy with, I think. "Not everyone is happy with ?", since when you speak for everyone ? Jesus saved the world and people killed him anyway, so when the fuck are people happy or grateful ever ?
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Franciem
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August 26, 2015, 12:10:04 AM |
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What should be the PoW Config (Reward - Duration - Halving) 100 CRAVE - 3 Months - Every 10 Days - 6 (25%) 50 CRAVE - 5 Months - Every 18 Days - 0 (0%) 10 CRAVE - 8 Months - No Halving - 0 (0%) 5 CRAVE - 1 Year - Every 6 Months - 1 (4.2%) 1 CRAVE - 2 Months - No Halving - 6 (25%) 0.1 CRAVE - Infinite - No Halving - 6 (25%) nFees PoW (nFees) - Infinite - No Halving (NO NEW COINS GENERATED BUT RATHER RECIRCULATED THROUGH FEES) - 5 (20.8%) Total Voters: 24 Im Vote to 100crave ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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HasherMe
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August 26, 2015, 10:06:14 PM |
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DONATE SOME CRAVE!!!
Sent you some just now Me 2. I am glad Crave is moving forward after losing the original dev.
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horiacretan1
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August 26, 2015, 11:32:39 PM |
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DONATE SOME CRAVE!!!
Sent CRAVE from this address C7KswebbGmSczjiW9kKE8jzi6ZFVyNik9C
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Kamatezo
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August 27, 2015, 02:54:25 PM |
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Masternode will all the time. Nobody takes Masternode. So it seems to me. DEV have not explained. In my opinion Masternode will be. After the plan is: ONE CLICK Masternode.
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catotune
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August 27, 2015, 03:12:05 PM |
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Is this takeover official, or is it a rogue fork of Crave? I can't figure it out - I had to click through several threads from the original to find this one, so it seems pretty hidden. From what I'm seeing many, if not most, people don't like the switch to POW. Also I'm not seeing anywhere that exchanges will be switching to use this takeover version of the wallet.
Personally, I like the masternode / POS system the way it is - there are a ton of Crave clones, but this coin was the original, so it's kind of weird to change its fundamentals at this point. However I'll upgrade regardless if this is really the official version of the coin (i.e. exchanges will be using it).
I know... This is a takeover because the dev went off the grid. Yes, people are pissed of due to PoW but I don't blame them. Therefore I basically made network fees the reward for PoW as to not create new PoW Coins but rather recirculate them Thanks for your reply. You seem like an honest and active dev who put a lot of thought into this, whether I agree with PoW or not. Can you tell me though which, if any, exchanges will be using this wallet? I just don't want to upgrade if the only people using your wallet are in this thread, and I can't buy or sell coins from anywhere ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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seedtrue
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August 27, 2015, 03:39:20 PM |
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This thread really brings a whole lot of things to light in the altcoin world. No offense intended to you Niitassin, you seem like a good and smart kid. I am glad you have taken the initiative to attempt this.
The phrase "Become an Altcoin developer, it's so easy even a 12 year old can do it." comes to mind.
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Kamatezo
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August 27, 2015, 04:05:29 PM |
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SUPER NIITASSIN ! Smiley you rock it look this take over going very well As you promess you deliver ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) now we all hope you will be with crave for a long time Well, you guys go back to normal levels or 0,003. It will be essential.
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August 27, 2015, 04:14:22 PM |
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Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.
I agree with you. Dev - answer us. This community has to decide. +1 On a pos coin, algo isnt important This is false.
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syberwolfen
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August 27, 2015, 04:14:46 PM |
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still thanks to be there
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PaidFudder
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August 28, 2015, 12:24:44 AM |
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Crave ded ?
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erok
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August 28, 2015, 12:44:38 AM |
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Crave ded ?
Damnit Fudder, can't you see that the Doogie Howser of crypto has taken this over? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2Fc0708c5c24313118939df20939ef5b14%2Ftumblr_n0p2ceJXfQ1rkgpyfo1_500.png&t=670&c=ThC0iqYqSPoCBQ)
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Kamatezo
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August 28, 2015, 07:28:31 AM |
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Crave ded ?
Crave is alive and well . 207 MN . Offer is only 75,000 crave. Buy because the current price is like for free.
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Kamatezo
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August 28, 2015, 11:11:14 AM |
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Do you have quoted such a long text? Littering forum.
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tema
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August 28, 2015, 12:55:28 PM |
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