.

[niitassin]

.

[1715238198]

1715238198

[iqlimasyadiqa]

total POW 520K? and reward only 100 crave? dev maximum reward seems less? 

[sportfan]

well it looks nice

[syberwolfen]

  it is good to see something going on
does starin know about this take over

[Monopoly]

What's difference between this thread and the old one ?

[Jerry S]

is this really a takeover?

[Starin]

it is good to see something going on
does starin know about this take over

I just saw it. I repeatedly asked to contact me if any dev was interested. I'm still waiting.

[tokyoghetto]

Why would you turn PoW back on? Doesn't seem fair to those who have held onto Crave from the beginning.

I say we don't turn back on PoW, leave it PoS as is.

[vegasguy]

Yes, many of us are crave bagholders. Please no not reinitialize pow. If your not sure, put up a vote.

Thanks
Vegas

[tema]

Whoa! Whoa! Been 20 Minutes and shit starts for well... the voting

Fuck POW

i agree, not need POW! For ordinary people who do not have the ASICs better POS/MN

[EmilioMann]

Few before the slack group be off, I wrote it there. Perhaps ICM didn't like.

"we can:

- enable darksend and instantX. Just this already become crave better than dash because it has POS masternodes, blur and i2p + tor.

- Copy and paste the sling market and keep working on it to improve that shit. Sling is a copy and paste from crave and this market was created by ICM, then they can not complain.

- Develop a friendly interface for darkpool and disseminate the use of blur for gambling or a means of payment 100% anon.

- Starting a PR campaign.

P.S. I think starin is on vacation because he still believe that ICM will return with a new release during those days. Sorry starin, but that will not happen. It's hard to understand why a normal person would act as ICM is acting, but that this be a lesson. All scammers on crypto act that way. They are sociopaths.
We already should have done something, every day will be worse to a point that nothing further to do. I've been saying this since the end of June."

darksend and instantX already on sourcecode, they only need to be activated.

I'm glad that someone took a rational and mature attitude, but starin and jj12880 done a lot for crave and also paid with money many things for the currency.
For example, starin paid with his money a mac wallet without him use a mac.
I think by an ethical question both should be placed on devteam and with the same power of decision than you.


P.s. moderated thread was a bad decision

[Starin]

it is good to see something going on
does starin know about this take over

I just saw it. I repeatedly asked to contact me if any dev was interested. I'm still waiting.

Starin, bro! I am compiling a team of dedicated devs for the Crave Currency because one dev can exit a picture and fuck us all so I need five members to know for sure so I can say that Crave is Solid.

I will try and contact CryptoVote and ask him to do a HTML5 Redo of Crave (After my feature Implementation)

Crave Marketplace didn't come so my first prirority is to get PoW Started and Marketplace On!

Setting up a fund for Crave might be a Good Idea (To buy nodes or to hire freelancers and stuff like that)

Well, as I said, go for it. You are obviously excited about this. I've been trying to reach devs for the last 2 weeks but haven't got a solid reply. I believe I have done enough for CRAVE. Not to mention my 1650 CRAVE was stolen, so I am not holding a single coin anyway. Good luck finding a developer that will develop marketplace without asking 100 BTC, as I couldn't. Anyway, I can handover the information of the website and forums. GL.

[tema]

 Developers - you fools! 10% of the profit is ~100 Crave per day. If you develop the coin and the price will rise to 1$ - is ~100$ per day and ~3000$ per month! If the price of the coin 2$? 5$? 10$? Yourself can find and think about the future permanent income?

[tkon3]

it is good to see something going on
does starin know about this take over

I just saw it. I repeatedly asked to contact me if any dev was interested. I'm still waiting.

Starin, bro! I am compiling a team of dedicated devs for the Crave Currency because one dev can exit a picture and fuck us all so I need five members to know for sure so I can say that Crave is Solid.

I will try and contact CryptoVote and ask him to do a HTML5 Redo of Crave (After my feature Implementation)

Crave Marketplace didn't come so my first prirority is to get PoW Started and Marketplace On!

Setting up a fund for Crave might be a Good Idea (To buy nodes or to hire freelancers and stuff like that)

Your feature implementation ?

[prospecta]

This.is.so.great!

[iGotSpots]

Pssst.. your codebase is EXTREMELY vulnerable. Be wary

[pineapples]

Pssst.. your codebase is EXTREMELY vulnerable. Be wary

you should really just open the can of beans.  fuck all this secretive shit.

give details to respected peoples. let them agree. then it can be fixed if it can be fixed.

--

i dont know what exactly is the deal.
gorillabucks was abused by people able to gain ALL the stakes with NO rewards going to masternodes ??

[hughbt]

Pro tip:
You can create a million polls but someone has to rule and deliver new stuff. Just implement the markets and other things you would like to implement. Show people that you have the necessary skills. I don't want to deliver bad news, but at this stage you will not find anyone who will join your team.  So if you really are 11, this is the opportunity for you to prove yourself and gain some repect.

[tema]

I'm sorry but in order to run Marketplace we are letting Crave's Signature UI Go. There is a segfault caused by the dependencies required for that UI.

Also, the migerate to HTML5 UI, we need a normal QT, so sorry guys!

 Work with JJ12880

[Jacksp]

Hi! I wrote on the wrong thread:

How many mn are available?

[Jacksp]

Hi! I wrote on the wrong thread:

How many mn are available?

173 MNodes!

Thanks @niitassin , i lost the thread, i hold my crave, crave are tooooo cheaper now...

[syberwolfen]

I don't know what to think, starin was always there for us I am still believed in...
And I am still suspicious but in two day you show us preview of the market that what we ask ICM multiple time
we have to give you benefit of the dough
hope you deliver  

I actually worked for weeks trying to clone it for my coin! (ECLIPSE) and then I struck the Idea of Common Sense! I studied Sling and cloned it! When I saw Crave Fall! I felt sad so I applied my skills here!

My name is Ahmad and I am 11, Lived in India

man if you are old enough to put your name i have to give you a head up

[Kamatezo]

I am immensely glad that the subject has finally hit the ground running. If the markets indeed continue to be like you said for 2-3 days, it will be extraordinary. It means only one thing – that CRAVE rate is currently ridiculously low. The emergence of markets itself will sweep off the right side of the market in a blink of an eye. We have been missing someone like you.  I am glad, I am with you and I will support you. My investment is very long-term regardless of the price. The profit only from POS and Masternode.

[horiacretan1]

I don't know what to think, starin was always there for us I am still believed in...
And I am still suspicious but in two day you show us preview of the market that what we ask ICM multiple time
we have to give you benefit of the dough
hope you deliver  

Be nice, i rather have a Dev then no Dev at all, nobody stepped up, now that someone did, we have a problem ?

Lol didn't say we have a problem but we need to stay focus and work as a teams

Yes indeed, but at the rate we were going, this coin was destined for a quick delist, i saw this coin at 200000 sat i think, and bought most of mines at 18000 and 16500, never thought i would see it at 8000, i am invested 2 BTC and as of now i will settle for anything, but like i said before POS will destroy the value further.

Now that we see some light i am willing to put another 1.60 BTC from another coin i hold ASN which i am willing to sell soon.

Team you said, well team it should be.

[LordCoder]

90% of the posts are from you. Bumping the thread will not make this more interesting.

[Kamatezo]

BETA is now Live!

Will you write the manuals for Ubuntu once you have compiled the source? I am familiar with Windows but not  Linux and I do not know how to install.

[iGotSpots]

Hmm already deleting posts that aren't even FUD. This thread is going places!

[Kamatezo]

90% of the posts are from you. Bumping the thread will not make this more interesting.

Oh! So sorry, will try to avoid posting excessively!

BETA is now Live!

Will you write the manuals for Ubuntu once you have compiled the source? I am familiar with Windows but not  Linux and I do not know how to install.

Could you compile for Windows? (For the BETA)

For Ubuntu, this is the way:

Code:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:i2p-maintainers/i2p

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \
    build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \
    libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \
    libssl-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev i2p git libtool autoconf

Then download from https://github.com/laptoptip/fastr/releases/tag/10 (THIS IS THE SECP256k1 - Don't USE LATEST, Doesn't work)

Unzip it and then type this

Code:

./autogen.sh
./configure
make
./tests
sudo make install

Code:

git clone https://github.com/laptoptip/crave

cd crave

qmake "USE_UPNP=1"

chmod +x *

make

and then launch it

Code:

./crave-qt

SCREEN BETA WALLET UBUNTU:  http://www.wykop.pl/wpis/14005191/#comment-45588021  //polish reddit//

KAMATEZO bitcointalk =  Alphabet wykop.pl

[PaidFudder]

wot
tltr

[TrueAnon]

Dead before it began.  Sorry CRAVERS you're done for.

[syberwolfen]

give him a chance don't push down further this coin for nothing
everything work fine in here for now

[horiacretan1]

90% of the posts are from you. Bumping the thread will not make this more interesting.

Take a hike, or keep it movin, choose one.

If a Dev is not around, is not good, if he is around to much, still no good, nobody needs your opinion here, so go fuk yourself.

[horiacretan1]

Dead before it began.  Sorry CRAVERS you're done for.

Another hump shows up. WTF

If i throw a stick will you leave ?

[chesthing]

PATHETIC.

[horiacretan1]

PATHETIC.

All of a sudden, we got a fuking audience, i love it.

It took you trough the labyrinth of threads to get here, quite a voyage, and that it's pathetic, if only after all that traveling all you had to say was...., but let's just assume that, you are interested.

[Kamatezo]

Beta Wallet

[CryptoVote]

No, it's not. Even if it will be free I don't say it's cheap. Nobody wants this coin anymore.

So who is running the 170+ masternodes?

[syberwolfen]

lol if you don't believed in crave it is fine, but leave and let us be
we don't need your comment

[Kamatezo]

WOW ! SUPER !
MARKETS WORK!

My TEST!

[birdcat90]

so basically this coin start from the beginning or continuing the previous development?

how many dev takes over this coin? just want to know..thanks

[Kamatezo]

thank you BEYBE ))))



My SALDO CRAVE 11142 CRAVE

[Kamatezo]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32gt91_dwie-kobiety-tankuja-samochod_fun   )

[daveolake]

As anyways I am porting Sling and the URGE Market is a BETA, I am also trying to Port Block Explorer, RichList and BTC Price Marker

good work, and thanks for taking over and running with it. Good to see some movement forward with development.

[syberwolfen]

yes it is it is hard to recover from a corrupted DEV (ICM)

[CryptoVote]

Nice job on the new version. I am going to start contributing to Crave and port the code I am writing for Sling's HTML5 UI. This should be interesting.

[horiacretan1]

I already see the benefit of POS, sell, sell, sell and sell some more on Trex, good going, great thinking.

[tema]

I already see the benefit of POS, sell, sell, sell and sell some more on Trex, good going, great thinking.

POW X11 5-Coin Reward

 POW? Where? For Crave will be a good update on POS v.3 and make easier the setting MasterNods.  Don't need a revolution, need evolutionary path of development what is specified in the roadmap

[Dimitry]

Nice job on the new version. I am going to start contributing to Crave and port the code I am writing for Sling's HTML5 UI. This should be interesting.

What would this mean for sling investors?

[EmilioMann]

I already see the benefit of POS, sell, sell, sell and sell some more on Trex, good going, great thinking.

POW X11 5-Coin Reward

 POW? Where? For Crave will be a good update on POS v.3 and make easier the setting MasterNods.  Don't need a revolution, need evolutionary path of development what is specified in the roadmap

I agree with you.

me too
+ 100000

[Kamatezo]

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

I crave wallet on Windows Server 2012. I CREATE 6 masternode by adrenaline on that single server. We pressed Adrenaline Nodes - Start All. Every time after about 2 hours to disengage. Sometimes after an hour. What to do? Can you help? Today we go again pressed the Start ALL and per hour parted again
Thank you that you are with us. Crave needed was someone like you. Humble man of great knowledge. I know you can not fool us. I'm with you. Help me with this adrenaline on windows.

[tema]

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

  niitassin, now Crave POS/MN, you want switch to POW/MN. Why?  People who have Asics and powerfull videocards can mine Crave on multipool.

[Kamatezo]

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

  niitassin, now Crave POS/MN, you want switch to POW/MN. Why?  People who have Asics and powerfull videocards can mine Crave on multipool.

PoS v3.0 is just HiPoS and Masternode .
Read with understanding. Dev pulled out of a POW. Will POS v3

[tema]

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

  niitassin, now Crave POS/MN, you want switch to POW/MN. Why?  People who have Asics and powerfull videocards can mine Crave on multipool.

It is SHA256 and the Reward is 5 CRAVE, so 5 CRAVE, about 1 Th/s, 60 Sec Blocks, You Do The Math.... Also CRAVE needs something to back on, that will be PoW

 Now i staking and support Crave network. When you switch i can't staking and can't mining(i don't have asics and videocards) and i can't create MN becouse my provider NAT and block ports and it hard for me

[Kamatezo]

Niitassin Can you help me with my case?

[Kamatezo]

Thank You ! I love INDIA

[Kamatezo]

Niitassin Can you help me with my case?

I already am

Thank you for your help. We'll see if disconnects. I'll wait 3 hours.

[Kamatezo]

Continue to disengage after about an hour of time.

my crave.conf


rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=I98Yh98yHrtrteter
rpcpassword=09uy9rtetetww
rpcport=78558
server=1
daemon=1
listen=1
staking=0
discover=1
upnp=1
port=9999

Anyone of you can help?

add maxconnections=100  It will help?

Do you really nobody can help? Or maybe no one wants to help?

[Kamatezo]

Case solved. Just this function Adrenaline in the program does not work because the code is incomplete for the function of adrenaline. you need to do a separate wallety manually and then it works.

[tema]

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

  niitassin, now Crave POS/MN, you want switch to POW/MN. Why?  People who have Asics and powerfull videocards can mine Crave on multipool.

It is SHA256 and the Reward is 5 CRAVE, so 5 CRAVE, about 1 Th/s, 60 Sec Blocks, You Do The Math.... Also CRAVE needs something to back on, that will be PoW

 Now i staking and support Crave network. When you switch i can't staking and can't mining(i don't have asics and videocards) and i can't create MN becouse my provider NAT and block ports and it hard for me

PoS and PoW will be there side by side

 Ok, very good! remember that Urge Market need pledge 10000 Crave. But may be need multisig for market?

[Kamatezo]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

[EmilioMann]

You are doing a great work, guys!

[Kamatezo]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

This is how we do! This is what I was trying to do but because of slllowww, didn't do it! But anyways! CONGRATS! BRO!

I changed the server on super-fast

[upsidedown75]

Having problem to synchronize my wallet. Do anyone have a good list of nodes? Thanks!

[Kamatezo]

Having problem to synchronize my wallet. Do anyone have a good list of nodes? Thanks!

http://www.richlist.eu/crave/masternodes

np : addnode=176.119.43.146:9980

[Kamatezo]

When an update?

[Kamatezo]

Server resource consumption  18 Masternode
Windows Server 2012 R1



monthly cost :: 43 USD

1 masternode monthly cost :: 2,38 USD

[BitCoinNutJob]

Server resource consumption  18 Masternode
Windows Server 2012 R1



monthly cost :: 43 USD

1 masternode monthly cost :: 2,38 USD

Nice profit! I'm going to buy CRAVE for a few masternodes. niitassin is young but very tallented DEV.

[Kamatezo]

Server resource consumption  18 Masternode
Windows Server 2012 R1



monthly cost :: 43 USD

1 masternode monthly cost :: 2,38 USD

Nice profit! I'm going to buy CRAVE for a few masternodes. niitassin is young but very tallented DEV.

You're going to buy? It's a buy rating. While crave are cheap

[Kamatezo]

How many more coins will be mined in the new pow ?

POW is not planned.

[Kamatezo]

How many more coins will be mined in the new pow ?

POW is not planned.

So its just the blockchain that is moving correct?
Also will blur still be used ?

I do not know. Ask DEV. In my opinion, blur will not be used.

[proletariat]

How many more coins will be mined in the new pow ?

POW is not planned.

So its just the blockchain that is moving correct?
Also will blur still be used ?

I do not know. Ask DEV. In my opinion, blur will not be used.

He had "BLUR XCP" in the title a few days ago

[Bobekko]

I wonder ICM had some natural calamity befall him .
After doing all that he did ... wonder what caused him to just disappear

Lmao. The calamity that befell him was his numerous scams being uncovered. You got Mozelesky'd son.  

[olcaytu2005]

How can i update my wallet? is there any tutorial?

[EmilioMann]

I wonder ICM had some natural calamity befall him .
After doing all that he did ... wonder what caused him to just disappear

Lmao. The calamity that befell him was his numerous scams being uncovered. You got Mozelesky'd son.  

Is it this guy ?https://twitter.com/joemozelesky

yep
and this is his latest scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1149266.0

[horiacretan1]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

Sry, but how do you separate different wallets manually ?

[Kamatezo]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

Sry, but how do you separate different wallets manually ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFOAdIviuI

[horiacretan1]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

Sry, but how do you separate different wallets manually ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFOAdIviuI

Fuck me.

[Kamatezo]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

Sry, but how do you separate different wallets manually ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFOAdIviuI

Fuck me.

I helped you. Why did you write: Fuck me. On this video you explained very well how to do it.

[horiacretan1]

Now it is working. This method is the only one that works. So separately every wallet. Manually.

Sry, but how do you separate different wallets manually ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFOAdIviuI

Fuck me.

I helped you. Why did you write: Fuck me. On this video you explained very well how to do it.

Complicated shit

[Kamatezo]

I can do this by Team View

[samspaces]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

[Kamatezo]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

I agree with you. Dev - answer us. This community has to decide.

[Wheatclove]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

Efficiency. Scrypt uses more system resources than SHA256.

[hepilord]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

Efficiency. Scrypt uses more system resources than SHA256.

Another Reason

what with master nodes?

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

[Kamatezo]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

DEV is concrete and buyers already are. We go slowly up. Or maybe soon. Who knows WOoW 12000 SAT!

[tkon3]

Haha you asked community for PoW, you got a negative answer.

[Kamatezo]

My Crave MN



Tonight we buy 15000 crave. I'm just waiting for my BTC. We buy everything for the price of 30,000 sat.

[Shunak]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

I agree with you. Dev - answer us. This community has to decide.

+1
On a pos coin, algo isnt important

[Shunak]

My Crave MN

[img]http://asn.nstrefa.pl/forumxph/xxxxxx.png[ /img]

Tonight we buy 15000 crave. I'm just waiting for my BTC. We buy everything for the price of 30,000 sat.

You are a whale!!
Could you show your RAM?

[Kamatezo]

My Crave MN



http://asn.nstrefa.pl/forumxph/ram.png


1,8 GB RAM - 1,9 GB RAM -- MAX 18 MN

[horiacretan1]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

Stop with the threats and please dump your coins.

[Kamatezo]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

Stop with the threats and please dump your coins.

I agree. How this man has a problem then let them sell. Buy from it all.

[horiacretan1]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

Stop with the threats and please dump your coins.

I agree. How this man has a problem then let them sell. Buy from it all.

I'd rather have him sell now at this price (which is a bluff), than at a higher price.

[tokyoghetto]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

[horiacretan1]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

STFU stupid, what is trust got to do with this, does your pea brain understand that this coin is backed by nothing ?

The reason you fucks sold it for anything ?

It needs you to fucking earn these coins a little, so you will think twice about selling again at 8000 sat.

And if you backed this coin from day 1, why would you get out now that we finally have something good going ?

And why do you assume the Dev has big mining power, and if he does, he paid big money for it, and i am sure he has no solar panels in his house either,

[tema]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

Point taken.

Next Update
     - Urge Market Final
     - Switch to SHA256d on 7th Sept 2015
     - StealthText

Update After That
     - One-Click Masternodes
     - Possibly Masternode Cloaking
     - Launder Mixer
     - InstantX Activation

Update Update After That
     - Ring Signatures
     - HTML5 UI

  niitassin, now Crave POS/MN, you want switch to POW/MN. Why?  People who have Asics and powerfull videocards can mine Crave on multipool.

It is SHA256 and the Reward is 5 CRAVE, so 5 CRAVE, about 1 Th/s, 60 Sec Blocks, You Do The Math.... Also CRAVE needs something to back on, that will be PoW

 Now i staking and support Crave network. When you switch i can't staking and can't mining(i don't have asics and videocards) and i can't create MN becouse my provider NAT and block ports and it hard for me

PoS and PoW will be there side by side

Dev say that it be PoS and PoW will be there side by side. As he realizes I do not know, but it's good if it is at the same time POW+POS+MN

[horiacretan1]

Nobody likes Sha256, but everyone loves Bitcoin, guess what ? Bitcoin is Sha256, and has no Dev either.

[tkon3]

Haha he asked the community if we wanted PoW again, we said no.

[olcaytu2005]

How can i update the wallet from github?

[solid12345]

Just letting you know.IF YOU change to POW I'm out by dumping my 20k Crave.Think twice about this silly decision.Nobody wants that!!!

As far as i'm concerned you were most likely part of Mick Ghee and Joe's shill group so your opinion shouldn't matter.

[HackaB321]

You know what - I will put a poll for what PoW Reward System - That is what I can do

Why are you bothering us with this POW shit? Do you believe in this coin or what?
If you turn CRAVE into pow ,  we'll dump all the coins we own and Crave will be 0$ worth
Do you like working for nothing?
Create your own POW coin and let CRAVE be the coin it has been since its birth

[tokyoghetto]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

STFU stupid, what is trust got to do with this, does your pea brain understand that this coin is backed by nothing ?

The reason you fucks sold it for anything ?

It needs you to fucking earn these coins a little, so you will think twice about selling again at 8000 sat.

And if you backed this coin from day 1, why would you get out now that we finally have something good going ?

And why do you assume the Dev has big mining power, and if he does, he paid big money for it, and i am sure he has no solar panels in his house either,

I read your last ten posts. All you do is swear and yell. You sound like a moron.

[tokyoghetto]

since our fearless leader here will go ahead and add PoW mining regardless of what we say, I suggest everyone vote for 0.1 CRAVE reward.

Vote for the lowest reward possible.

[tkon3]

since our fearless leader here will go ahead and add PoW mining regardless of what we say, I suggest everyone vote for 0.1 CRAVE reward.

Vote for the lowest reward possible.

No sense. Rather vote for a limited duration with low reward => 1 crave 2 months
Also 0.1 reward is senseless, way too low considering current prices.

[tokyoghetto]

since our fearless leader here will go ahead and add PoW mining regardless of what we say, I suggest everyone vote for 0.1 CRAVE reward.

Vote for the lowest reward possible.

No sense. Rather vote for a limited duration with low reward => 1 crave 2 months

Why even have PoW at all?

Crave should be left as is. PoS with Masternodes.

[Penetrator10]

We don't want any pow.

[tokyoghetto]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

STFU stupid, what is trust got to do with this, does your pea brain understand that this coin is backed by nothing ?

The reason you fucks sold it for anything ?

It needs you to fucking earn these coins a little, so you will think twice about selling again at 8000 sat.

And if you backed this coin from day 1, why would you get out now that we finally have something good going ?

And why do you assume the Dev has big mining power, and if he does, he paid big money for it, and i am sure he has no solar panels in his house either,

I read your last ten posts. All you do is swear and yell. You sound like a moron.

What the hell did I do?

I was talking to horiacretan1. For some reason he flipped out on me.

[Franciem]

That was fast. How many coins are in circulation right now?
any new good news for up price ?

[olcaytu2005]

You have to add no POW choice.

[tkon3]

Basically we can't avoid PoW now, so be logical please :
- 0.1 will be infinite, this reward is very low and wont be attractive considering the situation
- 1 crave is an higher reward, can be attractive for few miners and is limited on time

So dont be stupid and vote 1 crave/2months
Other rewards are way too high.

[hughbt]

lol Baghodlers are screwed. Rule number one - the more coins, the lower price per coin. If someone thinks that turning on POW will somehow back this coin up he is just silly/stupid. It will only be profitable for miners, diff won't be high enough, it will adjust to the current market price. Mining cost will always be lower than market price which will result in big dumps.

If you want to make things more interesting, create the masternode reward system. The longer someone keeps coins in masternodes the higher rewards he gets. This is something what could prevent the dumps and convince some people to invest in crave.

I feel like bastard Joe (intentionally or not) was very close to creating interesting "eco-system". Coins locked in masternodes, coins burned for blur, coins locked in markets - each and every one of these features meant to be profitable, what definitely would lower the supply of coins on the exchanges. The supply itself is low too. It shouldn't be changed by turning pow on, it is not going to help at all.

[Penetrator10]

We don't want any pow.

Pow or Pav (In Hindi Means Bread) so If you don't want any bread, you don't want any bread

I EXPLANED WHY WE NEED PoW !!!

So if you want any bread don't do pow ,because you will walk hungry.

[samspaces]

Nobody likes Sha256, but everyone loves Bitcoin, guess what ? Bitcoin is Sha256, and has no Dev either.

Strange logic, nobody likes that the algo for a POS coin is being changed, that's all. Oh and by the way, this one does have a dev not everyone is happy with, I think.

[daveolake]

nFees PoW (nFees) - Infinite
is a new option that wasn't there when I voted. want to change my vote to nfees

[Kamatezo]

The normal price for a minimum of 0,003BTC=1crave.
The current price is artificially undervalued. I predict will soon return to normal rates 0,003-0,005

DEV Thank you for your effective concrete action. You are a very wise man.

[olcaytu2005]

Who the hell voted for Option 1

Maybe trolls from other coins.

[fydel]

What happend to industrialcoin? MIA? Why?

[tokyoghetto]

What happend to industrialcoin? MIA? Why?

The rumor is that his brother got jammed up in some Bitcoin scheme and he left to help him out.

[PaidFudder]

votings can me manipulated sooo easy
democrazy sucks omg

[EmilioMann]

What happend to industrialcoin? MIA? Why?

Who is ICM and what is happened?

You can discover reading from here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110730.msg12065107#msg12065107

Basically, ICM delivered part that he promised to crave, less the principal: the markets.
Since april he only misleads investors, saying that markets are ready and will be released "this week".
Since June I and a few others realize that he's a sociopath and was just having fun watching their investors losing money and we began to think about a plan B.
Instead of release the market to crave, he created and sold a market for sling, a competing currency that cloned crave code and he also began creating other currencies and C-CEX ICO scams together with a pump&dump group, with some features that he had promised to crave.
These currencies are: grav, nanas, versa, axiom, xai, spreadcoin, circ and probably other.
He was reported that we would make a takeover if he didn't present anything, not even a print of what he said be ready.
He didn't and disappeared 15 days ago.
We will complete the takeover so starin return, probably tomorrow.
ICM was doxxed by thelion07.
He is Joseph Mozeleski, responsible for various scams since 2014, starting with cloak coin.
He is a great coder and could complete all his projects, but he is a sociopath who have fun making people lose money and "crave" for him.

Joe Moz seems to like wings and shields, well there are no angels and shields protecting him this time



It is all coming together, portion of my conversation with him in May

[horiacretan1]

Haha he asked the community if we wanted PoW again, we said no.

What fucking community ? It seems like the minority has saved this coin and not the majority or the "community", so i really think if you are so dependent on a Dev, then maybe the Dev should decide what he wants to do, and not ask any fuck here for an opinion.

You little shits invest on a coin that has a Dev, the Dev dies you humps cry murder, when another Dev comes back, you guys have demands, and are quick to criticize, as if your say fucking matters now.

I beg all the little crying cunts here, to please sell your fucking coins and go suck a dick else where, cause no Dev owes you shit, you invest if you want and nobody put a gun to your head.

If you cannot stomach a coin with a Dev owner, then by all means keep your BTC.

[horiacretan1]

You know what - I will put a poll for what PoW Reward System - That is what I can do

Why are you bothering us with this POW shit? Do you believe in this coin or what?
If you turn CRAVE into pow ,  we'll dump all the coins we own and Crave will be 0$ worth
Do you like working for nothing?
Create your own POW coin and let CRAVE be the coin it has been since its birth

Sell your shit and get the fuck out. You crying bitch, then go make your own coin.

Without him this coin was $0 anyway.

[horiacretan1]

Dev asked if we wanted PoW mining again.

we said no.

He is doing it anyways.

How can anyone trust him? He isn't doing what the people want. We don't need PoW mining when PoS mining and masternodes are backing the network.

Seems like the dev only wants PoW mining because he has access to large amounts of mining power. Doesn't seem fair to those who have backed this coin since day one based on the premise that it will be POS/masternode only.

Dev, put the vote on again, let the community decide and honor the communities decision.

STFU stupid, what is trust got to do with this, does your pea brain understand that this coin is backed by nothing ?

The reason you fucks sold it for anything ?

It needs you to fucking earn these coins a little, so you will think twice about selling again at 8000 sat.

And if you backed this coin from day 1, why would you get out now that we finally have something good going ?

And why do you assume the Dev has big mining power, and if he does, he paid big money for it, and i am sure he has no solar panels in his house either,

I read your last ten posts. All you do is swear and yell. You sound like a moron.

Mad ?, no,...it seems like all the pansies here cry and all of a sudden have a big mouth, me on the other hand, i would rather have all your big mouths wrapped around my stick.

[horiacretan1]

Nobody likes Sha256, but everyone loves Bitcoin, guess what ? Bitcoin is Sha256, and has no Dev either.

Strange logic, nobody likes that the algo for a POS coin is being changed, that's all. Oh and by the way, this one does have a dev not everyone is happy with, I think.

"Not everyone is happy with ?", since when you speak for everyone ?

Jesus saved the world and people killed him anyway, so when the fuck are people happy or grateful ever ?

[Franciem]

What should be the PoW Config (Reward - Duration - Halving)
100 CRAVE - 3 Months  -  Every 10 Days   - 6 (25%)
50 CRAVE - 5 Months - Every 18 Days   - 0 (0%)
10 CRAVE - 8 Months - No Halving   - 0 (0%)
5 CRAVE - 1 Year - Every 6 Months   - 1 (4.2%)
1 CRAVE - 2 Months - No Halving   - 6 (25%)
0.1 CRAVE - Infinite - No Halving   - 6 (25%)
nFees PoW (nFees) - Infinite - No Halving (NO NEW COINS GENERATED BUT RATHER RECIRCULATED THROUGH FEES)   - 5 (20.8%)
Total Voters: 24

Im Vote to 100crave 

[Kamatezo]

Can anyone install this calculator on my server? I give the server data. I will be paying for the server. Because, unfortunately, this calculator does not work on the current server.

http://jj12880.azurewebsites.net/cravecalc.aspx

[HasherMe]

DONATE SOME CRAVE!!!

Sent you some  just now

Me 2. I am glad Crave is moving forward after losing the original dev.

[horiacretan1]

DONATE SOME CRAVE!!!

Sent CRAVE from this address C7KswebbGmSczjiW9kKE8jzi6ZFVyNik9C

[Kamatezo]

Masternode will all the time. Nobody takes Masternode. So it seems to me. DEV have not explained. In my opinion Masternode will be. After the plan is: ONE CLICK Masternode.

[catotune]

Is this takeover official, or is it a rogue fork of Crave? I can't figure it out - I had to click through several threads from the original to find this one, so it seems pretty hidden. From what I'm seeing many, if not most, people don't like the switch to POW. Also I'm not seeing anywhere that exchanges will be switching to use this takeover version of the wallet.

Personally, I like the masternode / POS system the way it is - there are a ton of Crave clones, but this coin was the original, so it's kind of weird to change its fundamentals at this point. However I'll upgrade regardless if this is really the official version of the coin (i.e. exchanges will be using it).

I know... This is a takeover because the dev went off the grid. Yes, people are pissed of due to PoW but I don't blame them. Therefore I basically made network fees the reward for PoW as to not create new PoW Coins but rather recirculate them

Thanks for your reply. You seem like an honest and active dev who put a lot of thought into this, whether I agree with PoW or not.

Can you tell me though which, if any, exchanges will be using this wallet? I just don't want to upgrade if the only people using your wallet are in this thread, and I can't buy or sell coins from anywhere

[seedtrue]

This thread really brings a whole lot of things to light in the altcoin world. No offense intended to you Niitassin, you seem like a good and smart kid. I am glad you have taken the initiative to attempt this.

The phrase "Become an Altcoin developer, it's so easy even a 12 year old can do it." comes to mind.

[Kamatezo]

SUPER NIITASSIN ! Smiley

you rock it look this take over  going very well
As you promess you deliver

now we all hope you will be with crave for a long time

Well, you guys go back to normal levels or 0,003. It will be essential.

[Wheatclove]

Why would you want to switch a POS coin to a different algo. Really makes no sense at all, except tinkering with the code for the fun of it.

I agree with you. Dev - answer us. This community has to decide.

+1
On a pos coin, algo isnt important

This is false.

[syberwolfen]

still thanks to be there

[PaidFudder]

Crave ded ?

[erok]

Crave ded ?

Damnit Fudder, can't you see that the Doogie Howser of crypto has taken this over?

[Kamatezo]

Crave ded ?

Crave is alive and well . 207 MN . Offer is only 75,000 crave. Buy because the current price is like for free.

[Kamatezo]

Do you have quoted such a long text? Littering forum.

[tema]

 http://www.wired.com/2015/08/agora-dark-webs-biggest-drug-market-going-offline/

[Kamatezo]

We reward investors best DEV our investments! Look on the left side of the market what happens

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE


This last cheap CRAVE. Soon a constant level is 0.003 BTC

[CryptoVote]

Pssst.. your codebase is EXTREMELY vulnerable. Be wary

we are..

This comment is vague. What is the vulnerability? Is it secp256k1?

[CryptoVote]

Bounty for Compiling Windows Wallet on Current Source Code (laptoptip) : 150 CRAVE

I compiled the Windows version. I sent you a PM with the download URL.

[Kamatezo]

Masternode ONE CLICK already works? I see it in your wallet Windows is a mistake when you add things to sell to urge market.

[Kamatezo]

what happened to blur? was it just a scam to encourage people to burn crave?

Yes. Blur it was just a hoax ICM. It was just to burn CRAVE. To Crave was even less. BLUR will not be used.

But ask DEV Niitassin or blur will be. I do not know that.

Blur is a clone of DogeParty which is a clone of CounterParty

What about those people that washed Crave on BLUR

[tkon3]

This is the path to download this version: http://www.filedropper.com/crave-urge-32

I have been running the new version on Windows for about 6 hours. I have 33 connections and it seems to be stable.

It looks like the market db is not replicating. I can't see my listings on other nodes. Any ideas?

Also, the crave process after closing the app on Windows hangs and I need to kill to process (..task manager) but this is the same as before; not new to this release.

Its better to use file => exit, usually you dont need to use the task manager after this.

[HasherMe]

Its better to use file => exit, usually you dont need to use the task manager after this.

Thanks, I'll try that.

Market is needed to have 50% CONSENSUS

Oh, so more than 50% of the nodes need to run this version for the db to replicate.

[CryptoVote]

My Windows 64 bit - windows 10

Beta Version Beta Wallet ERROR " URGE SELLS "

I don't have this problem on my Windows 7 64 bit VirtualBox. I will try Windows 10.

[CryptoVote]

It's working. It was enough to clear the roaming crave file before installing.

Great! Thanks.

[Kamatezo]

It's working. It was enough to clear the roaming crave file before installing.

Great! Thanks.

I'm glad I could help!

[Kamatezo]

It's working. It was enough to clear the roaming crave file before installing.

Great! Thanks.

they give node? These can be?

addnode=45.63.69.70
addnode=104.207.139.120
addnode=45.63.71.93
addnode=45.63.65.214
addnode=45.63.70.118
addnode=104.207.141.242
addnode=104.207.141.214
addnode=104.238.165.109
addnode=104.207.140.216
addnode=45.63.67.56
addnode=45.63.64.10
addnode=104.236.206.97

[HasherMe]

Fork can be earlier than 7 september 2015?

Impressed by the devs! Keep up the great work.  

People will wake up from their sleep

Can I use this version to run my masternodes or should I wait

[Kamatezo]

Fork can be earlier than 7 september 2015?

People will wake up from their sleep

What to do in order to synchronize the beta version?

[HasherMe]

Fork can be earlier than 7 september 2015?

People will wake up from their sleep

What to do in order to synchronize the beta version?

I think we need >50% of the nodes running this version for the new urge market db to synchronize. Buying more Crave.

[Kamatezo]

Fork can be earlier than 7 september 2015?

People will wake up from their sleep

What to do in order to synchronize the beta version?

I think we need >50% of the nodes running this version for the new urge market db to synchronize. Buying more Crave.

When will FORK September 7 that you must be running Wallet? Can you turn the wallet until September 8 for example? Because 7 September just working around the clock.

[Kamatezo]

WARNING: KINDLY UPDATE YOUR CLIENTS
CRAVE is switching to SHA256d on 7th September 2015 @ 00:00:00 Hrs GMT


YOU WILL GET A ERROR WHEN USING THE CLIENT SO PLEASE CLEAR YOUR ROAMING CRAVE FILE

But before that can take a WALLET.DAT BACK UP !!

[syberwolfen]

"Developer of Eclipse and Crave - Aged 11 - 2+2=5"  wat

Developer of Eclipse and Crave ------ In reality
Aged 11 ------ My Age
2+2=5 --------- A  Phrase from 1984

I do not believe that you're 11 years old. How did your knowledge? Enter your profile on facebook

Lol the age doesn't matter if he deliver we will happy

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

"Developer of Eclipse and Crave - Aged 11 - 2+2=5"  wat

Developer of Eclipse and Crave ------ In reality
Aged 11 ------ My Age
2+2=5 --------- A  Phrase from 1984

I do not believe that you're 11 years old. How did your knowledge? Enter your profile on facebook

NO FB

Very well,I'm starting to like you
100% agreed.

[syberwolfen]

"Developer of Eclipse and Crave - Aged 11 - 2+2=5"  wat

Developer of Eclipse and Crave ------ In reality
Aged 11 ------ My Age
2+2=5 --------- A  Phrase from 1984

I do not believe that you're 11 years old. How did your knowledge? Enter your profile on facebook

NO FB

Very well,I'm starting to like you
100% agreed.

Lol I really don't care about your age and you have good humour   like it
keep up the good work

[Kamatezo]

Thank You!

Next version DGW, Masternode Vulnerability Fix and DarkSend UI

Wow. When this new version? Is there a date?

EDIT: AFTER 7TH SEPT

You are amazing. or Masternode One click will work? Will there be a version of the server on ubuntu? (A masternode)

[proletariat]

kid's got a bright future..

Take this one for example http://www.coindesk.com/15-year-old-developer-ethereum-whit-jackson/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinDesk+%28CoinDesk+-+The+Voice+of+Digital+Currency%29

The opal dev didn't know how to code in the dogecoin days.... that was practically yesterday...WTF? it took me two years to figure out coin control in the wallet and here you got these kids doing these things before puberty ......... LOL what are they feeding them these days

[Kamatezo]

September 7 :: crave > 0.001 BTC  
The sale was only 76000 crave. Such a low rate crave as it is now will never happen again.

Do not encourage a bubble for Crave, Remember the Mt. Gox Days?

Bubble is bad. But 0,001 of BTC is the minimum that should be crave. The current price is absurd.

There must be a constant steady growth over 0.001 BTC. If the exchange rate will be fixed as now it will not be any interest.

[HasherMe]

I don't even know what you just said. I was referring to him being a boy genius. But on a serious note, ICM was a bullshit plague so anything is better than that. Congrats on a step in a better direction Crave.

It looks like he can get the work done so age doesn't matter.
The market db is staring to replicate across nodes! New client is stable. It has been running for over 24 hours and has 38 connections.

[Kamatezo]

I don't even know what you just said. I was referring to him being a boy genius. But on a serious note, ICM was a bullshit plague so anything is better than that. Congrats on a step in a better direction Crave.

It looks like he can get the work done so age doesn't matter.
The market db is staring to replicate across nodes! New client is stable. It has been running for over 24 hours and has 38 connections.

I'm excited. Crave will succeed. Dev is a child success. Honest, truthful, concrete.

[Kamatezo]

Slab - a subsidy for DEV  :: URGE MARKET



If you buy a brick - pass crave for DEV

[Kamatezo]

NOTE :: To add something to sell to the urge marketplace, you have to have unlocked totally wallet. If it is blocked it pops up an error.

[tkon3]

September 7 :: crave > 0.001 BTC  
The sale was only 76000 crave. Such a low rate crave as it is now will never happen again.

Do not encourage a bubble for Crave, Remember the Mt. Gox Days?

Bubble is bad. But 0,001 of BTC is the minimum that should be crave. The current price is absurd.

There must be a constant steady growth over 0.001 BTC. If the exchange rate will be fixed as now it will not be any interest.

900% pump ?
You guys are just over optimistic, the PnD scenario is over now and crave already lost 90% of its attractiveness last 2 months, so dont expect something higher than 30k in the next 2 months which is already an high target.
20-25k range seems more reachable.

[Kamatezo]

September 7 :: crave > 0.001 BTC  
The sale was only 76000 crave. Such a low rate crave as it is now will never happen again.

Do not encourage a bubble for Crave, Remember the Mt. Gox Days?

Bubble is bad. But 0,001 of BTC is the minimum that should be crave. The current price is absurd.

There must be a constant steady growth over 0.001 BTC. If the exchange rate will be fixed as now it will not be any interest.

900% pump ?
You guys are just over optimistic, the PnD scenario is over now and crave already lost 90% of its attractiveness last 2 months, so dont expect something higher than 30k in the next 2 months which is already an high target.
20-25k range seems more reachable.

It will not be any PUMP. You call it wrong. It is now 3000% dump. And now back to normal levels. Technical erase DUMP. Back above 0,003 BTC is a matter of time.

[Kamatezo]

Crave is in strong hands. This List: TOP 30 ::

http://www.richlist.eu/crave

These are strong hands for the long term. None of them were sold when it was 0.008 BTC.
Is not it puzzling for you? Crave is only 600 000 CRAVE. Even the price of 0,008 BTC is too low. The current price is very funny Now new investors, very strong hands. We're back above 0,003 BTC. It will be faster than one year.

[tkon3]

Haha. Lots of bagholders, 0 support, no volume. What do you expect really ?
Bagholders are not even playing the swings.
Check cloakcoin, took 1 year for a rising price after the takeover.

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

Haha. Lots of bagholders, 0 support, no volume. What do you expect really ?
Bagholders are not even playing the swings.
Check cloakcoin, took 1 year for a rising price after the takeover.

Cloak isn't Crave,is it?

[tkon3]

Haha. Lots of bagholders, 0 support, no volume. What do you expect really ?
Bagholders are not even playing the swings.
Check cloakcoin, took 1 year for a rising price after the takeover.

Cloak isn't Crave,is it?

After a takeover, each coin just loses 90% of its credibility.
Imagine you are a new investor, you check this thread, what can you see ? A large amount of bagholders, an old PnD, no innovation, a takeover... What would you do as a rationnal investor ? Investing in a new fresh coin with a potential PnD move and not on crave. If you are on crypto its because you are looking for profits. We all know that only bitcoin is able to go mainstream. Crypto is all about speculation.

[leonak]

Glad to see CRAVE will have a fork

[cisahasa]

Thank You!

Next version DGW, Masternode Vulnerability Fix and DarkSend UI

Masternode Vulnerability Fix is the issue, dash has been informed but only empty answer so far.
i could also stop your crave chain at this point if i wanted, i did it to hxx.( because we will have a swap)

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hxx/

there is many reasons why i say that you may also face coinswap..
i will work on hxx and give all the help i can to your code.
i am about to take dash as latest code base but now i am not sure if it is a safe coin.. need to study it.

Please help in the vulnerability

it will take me some time to have a solution... this is not full time job
look at dash now, they have some serious problems

[Kamatezo]

This is a view of Version Oxytocin I -
I have sucessfully implemented
DGW,
PoW,
PoW Reward = Fees,
PoS Rewards Does Not Have Fees,
Hiked Transaction Fees

Remaining:


DarkSend UI
Masternode Vulnerability Fix

There is already a link to the new version of the console? (On the server). We need to update the console version to masternode work. And did not you link to update Niitassin.

[syberwolfen]

keep up the good work
crave will be soon one of the best alt coin

[allZuckedUp]

new new wallet is version v1.4.5.0-g32a928e, correct?

[CryptoVote]

new new wallet is version v1.4.5.0-g32a928e, correct?

That is correct. You should see the Urge Market menu item.

[allZuckedUp]

new new wallet is version v1.4.5.0-g32a928e, correct?

That is correct. You should see the Urge Market menu item.

As I only compiled it for craved (make -f makefile.unix)... I know not, of this "menu" of which you speak.
However, I do see a "market" directory in the datadir, that I don't think was there before. 

Anyway, I've got two new nodes up, one a masternode and one staking.  Both are synced and seem to be running just fine.

[cisahasa]

Found the switch!

one for overview.  1 for menu settings

This is a view of Version Oxytocin I -
I have sucessfully implemented
DGW,
PoW,
PoW Reward = Fees,
PoS Rewards Does Not Have Fees,
Hiked Transaction Fees

Remaining:


DarkSend UI
Masternode Vulnerability Fix

can new source be compiled with windows?(no linux cross anymore)

[CryptoVote]

can new source be compiled with windows?(no linux cross anymore)

Why not cross compile? I had the same issue with I2P on Windows and Linux cross compiling.

Your advice on secp256k1 worked. Thanks!

[cisahasa]

can new source be compiled with windows?(no linux cross anymore)

Why not cross compile? I had the same issue with I2P on Windows and Linux cross compiling.

Your advice on secp256k1 worked. Thanks!

I2P was not issue for me.. got the client compiled but it crashed:
(want to still find the reason..)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.msg12227952#msg12227952

what db version did you use?

[CryptoVote]

I2P was not issue for me.. got the client compiled but it crashed:
(want to still find the reason..)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.msg12227952#msg12227952

what db version did you use?

db-5.3.28--> http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-5.3.28.tar.gz

[cisahasa]

I2P was not issue for me.. got the client compiled but it crashed:
(want to still find the reason..)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.msg12227952#msg12227952

what db version did you use?

db-5.3.28--> http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-5.3.28.tar.gz

same here

[CryptoVote]

I2P was not issue for me.. got the client compiled but it crashed:
(want to still find the reason..)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.msg12227952#msg12227952

what db version did you use?

db-5.3.28--> http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-5.3.28.tar.gz

same here

I used OpenSSL 1.0.2d.   I think you used 1.0.1j. I'm not sure if that matters.

[minernoob1]

Very nice work niitassin, you have done great job. If I had some extra crave I would send it.

[Tinkles]

Thank You!

Next version DGW, Masternode Vulnerability Fix and DarkSend UI

Masternode Vulnerability Fix is the issue, dash has been informed but only empty answer so far.
i could also stop your crave chain at this point if i wanted, i did it to hxx.( because we will have a swap)

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hxx/

there is many reasons why i say that you may also face coinswap..
i will work on hxx and give all the help i can to your code.
i am about to take dash as latest code base but now i am not sure if it is a safe coin.. need to study it.

Please help in the vulnerability

it will take me some time to have a solution... this is not full time job
look at dash now, they have some serious problems

what are the details of the vulnerability?

[CryptoVote]

A Peek of the new version:

Nice work!

[8-bit-Party]

well...

[Tinkles]

what are the details of the vulnerability?

This guy "discovered" masternode payment enforcement. I guess DASH devs enjoy it.

so the vulnerability, is just when enforcement isn't turned on?  hardly a vulnerability, you can only exploit by not paying masternodes part of mined blocks?

[8-bit-Party]

Interesting.

[8-bit-Party]

that is no time in crypto world..

thinking about all the pools compiling their clients from git..
and dash people say they have it on..

You have no idea what are you talking about mate.

[Starin]

that is no time in crypto world..

thinking about all the pools compiling their clients from git..
and dash people say they have it on..

You have no idea what are you talking about mate.

Whats the real deal? This guy said he could finish dash.

[cisahasa]

i just populated hexxcoin network with clients that have all the masternode payment enforcement rules turned on to the source code. also the "tweaked" wallet has rules on.

result:
enforcement clients still accept zero paid masternode blocks to the chain even that masternode payment enforcement rules are turned on. i expected fork to happen, it did not happen.
so, this did not stop this "hardly a vulnerability" thing.

will test more later time, next test will be with another coin based on current dashsource.
if that coin fails, hexx will move out of this code.

[8-bit-Party]

cihasa, the problem is that enforcement makes a fork
updated nodes will reject cheated blocks while others will accept them

[Shunak]

Version Oxytocin I:

Dark Gravity Wave - DONE
AuxPoW - NOT DONE
Spork Enforcement Fork - DONE
Block Explorer - DONE

Whats next.....

Blur (Counterparty for CRAVE) Online Wallet

What do you mean with AuxPoW? a new PoS?

[EmilioMann]

Version Oxytocin I:

Dark Gravity Wave - DONE
AuxPoW - NOT DONE
Spork Enforcement Fork - DONE
Block Explorer - DONE

Whats next.....

Blur (Counterparty for CRAVE) Online Wallet

What do you mean with AuxPoW? a new PoS?

turn the currency on hybrid mining (POW + POS) to make the network more secure
The reward of POW mining will be the fees of transactions or maybe another merged mining coin, and no new crave.

[Shunak]

Version Oxytocin I:

Dark Gravity Wave - DONE
AuxPoW - NOT DONE
Spork Enforcement Fork - DONE
Block Explorer - DONE

Whats next.....

Blur (Counterparty for CRAVE) Online Wallet

What do you mean with AuxPoW? a new PoS?

turn the currency on hybrid mining (POW + POS) to make the network more secure
The reward of POW mining will be the fees of transactions or maybe another merged mining coin, and no new crave.

Ok, i understand, thanks!!!

[JJ12880]

Random reply so I get updates on this thread

[daveolake]

Liking the new wallet. been running my mn since a day after new wallet came out, very smooth... lets see what the fork brings. good luck, hope it goes smoothly. great work so far. looking forward to blur wallet also.

[BitCoinNutJob]

Today is fork? Clients are up to date?

[CDarvin81]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

[Kamatezo]

Masternode ONE CLIK is working or not working?

[CryptoVote]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

What OS and environment are you using?
Are trying to compile craved or the qt wallet?

[CDarvin81]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

What OS and environment are you using?
Are trying to compile craved or the qt wallet?

Try to compile on a umix one time on a precise32 linux box other time on Ubuntu 12x
On every environment the same error...
I dont understand these because i've compiled the first source on these systems....

[CryptoVote]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

What OS and environment are you using?
Are trying to compile craved or the qt wallet?

Try to compile on a umix one time on a precise32 linux box other time on Ubuntu 12x
On every environment the same error...
I dont understand these because i've compiled the first source on these systems....

Does the old source compile on these?

I compile the new Craved and the Qt wallet on Ubuntu 14.x 64bit without any issues but haven't tried a 32 bit system.

[JJ12880]

Are there windows binary for the new wallet? Are they the ones from 16 days ago on github?  (i know ive been MIA)

[Kamatezo]

Niitassin Is Adrenaline Masternode ONE CLIK is already running? You can run?

[CryptoVote]

Are there windows binary for the new wallet? Are they the ones from 16 days ago on github?  (i know ive been MIA)

Yes, it is on the OP: https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/releases/tag/v2015.08.28

[lyrecon]

Do you think this fork will save the crave price?

[tema]

Niitassin Is Adrenaline Masternode ONE CLIK is already running? You can run?

 Do not chase him

[tkon3]

Do you think this fork will save the crave price?

If you want to save the price, just buy instead of holding.

[CryptoVote]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

What OS and environment are you using?
Are trying to compile craved or the qt wallet?

Try to compile on a umix one time on a precise32 linux box other time on Ubuntu 12x
On every environment the same error...
I dont understand these because i've compiled the first source on these systems....

I am able to replicate this problem on Ubuntu 64-bit by using a different secp256k1 version.

When I compile a different coin that uses secp256k1, I sometimes need the change the lib and include files. Try this version I cloned from a June 13 commit: https://github.com/CryptoDJ/secp256k1/releases/tag/v2015.06.13

[schernikau]

Hi @all.
I have a problem whith my try to compile the new wallet for my MN here the error msg:
key.cpp:711:70: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
key.cpp: In member function 'bool CPubKey::Derive(CPubKey&, unsigned char*, unsigned int, const unsigned char*) const':
key.cpp:730:69: error: 'class {anonymous}::CSecp256k1Init' has no member named 'ctx'
make: *** [obj/key.o] Error 1

Has someone a idea to solve. ..
Is the same environment which i has comipled the old sozrce....
Thanks.

secp256k1 Error

And how can i solve this?
Is there any howto?

What OS and environment are you using?
Are trying to compile craved or the qt wallet?

Try to compile on a umix one time on a precise32 linux box other time on Ubuntu 12x
On every environment the same error...
I dont understand these because i've compiled the first source on these systems....

I am able to replicate this problem on Ubuntu 64-bit by using a different secp256k1 version.

When I compile a different coin that uses secp256k1, I sometimes need the change the lib and include files. Try this version I cloned from a June 13 commit: https://github.com/CryptoDJ/secp256k1/releases/tag/v2015.06.13

Code:

git clone http://www.github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1
cd secp256k1
git checkout a1d5ae1
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
make install

[Kamatezo]

Why " masternode list " command does not work?

[syberwolfen]

people why dumping let the dev work
 

[tema]

 https://vip.bitcoin.co.id/cravebtc 

[Kamatezo]

The historic moment before increases.

Do not pay attention to false sale. I know exactly who did it. The same person buys and sells. The same person sold his CRAVE. This is false sale. Do not be fooled. Not long big increases in prices.

[tkon3]

The historic moment before increases.

Do not pay attention to false sale. I know exactly who did it. The same person buys and sells. The same person sold his CRAVE. This is false sale. Do not be fooled. Not long big increases in prices.

So who did it ?

[HackaB321]

Have we switched or not? Where is the dev? 

[CryptoVote]

Have we switched or not? Where is the dev? 

Bittrex is performing maintenance on the Crave wallet, hopefully to upgrade to the new version.

[daveolake]

crave back up on bittrex time to buy and rise

[hepilord]

My PC and internet is shot out...... Could come back to work on Friday

ok we wait, thanks for info

[syberwolfen]

shit happend!!!
see you on friday

[Trial]

How many one masternode can earn per day?

[Kamatezo]

How many one masternode can earn per day?

~ 1,5 CRAVE -:- ~ 2 CRAVE

[vegasguy]

Guys I have the latest version from the OP and CANNOT sync past block: 34722 . I have 5 connections. I have tried to resync from scratch 4 times and still wont sync. I have all the addnodes from the OP. Im not sure on the name of the .conf (im in windows). Should it be crave.conf, cravecoin.conf or AdrenalineNode.conf . I have tried them all without success. Does anyone have a current synced blockchain they can upload? What is the correct .conf name plz?

Thanks

Vegas

[JJ12880]

Ive been running the new client and don't have any issues. I did have the block chain synced way past that point when i switched, so you could try and sync past that point with the old wallet, and then switch to the new one, and see if that works.

[vegasguy]

Ive been running the new client and don't have any issues. I did have the block chain synced way past that point when i switched, so you could try and sync past that point with the old wallet, and then switch to the new one, and see if that works.

Ya, I think that is what it is too. Can anyone zip their blockchain and upload it to mega, and link it here?

Please

Vegas

[gioma]

Ive been running the new client and don't have any issues. I did have the block chain synced way past that point when i switched, so you could try and sync past that point with the old wallet, and then switch to the new one, and see if that works.

Ya, I think that is what it is too. Can anyone zip their blockchain and upload it to mega, and link it here?

Please

Vegas

I've deleted mine since I don't follow the project anymore, otherwise I would pass it to you sorry!

[CryptoVote]

Ive been running the new client and don't have any issues. I did have the block chain synced way past that point when i switched, so you could try and sync past that point with the old wallet, and then switch to the new one, and see if that works.

Ya, I think that is what it is too. Can anyone zip their blockchain and upload it to mega, and link it here?

Please

Vegas

Here you go: http://www.filedropper.com/crave-block-182265
It is at block 182,265 or about 20 minutes ago.

[vegasguy]

It says "the requested file doesnt exist"

[JJ12880]

It says "the requested file doesnt exist"

It worked for me?

[CryptoVote]

It says "the requested file doesnt exist"

It worked for me?

Try this location: https://mega.nz/#fm/vBdlXKJI

[vegasguy]

Thank you for the blockchain!!!

Vegas

[Trial]

Where it is possible to look at all open masternodes?

[snortex]

Where it is possible to look at all open masternodes?

https://crave.ninja does not seem to work
You can run some console commands in your wallet - 'masternode count' will give you the number of masternodes, 'masternode list' will give you the list 

[olcaytu2005]

Where it is possible to look at all open masternodes?

look here => http://www.richlist.eu/crave/masternodes

[tema]

 and here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/masternodes.dws

[JJ12880]

I'm back to work! My PC is fixed!

Awesome I hate it when mine goes down.  I had a bad batch of ram that was causing some issues a few months ago, was blowing a chip every week or two.

[tema]

Why is there so much silence....

 Do not worry! I have been following the  your development and rarely write here. I guess I'm not the only one. You have done that work on Crave! Niitassin you can join us in craveproject.slack.com(contact with jj12880) and add it in OP and https://www.reddit.com/r/crave and http://mycrave.org/ add too

[olcaytu2005]

Why is there so much silence....

 Do not worry! I have been following the  your development and rarely write here. I guess I'm not the only one. You have done that work on Crave! Niitassin you can join us in craveproject.slack.com(contact with jj12880) and add it in OP and https://www.reddit.com/r/crave and http://mycrave.org/ add too

 we are all here. following your works. and i appreciate .

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

Why is there so much silence....

 Do not worry! I have been following the  your development and rarely write here. I guess I'm not the only one. You have done that work on Crave! Niitassin you can join us in craveproject.slack.com(contact with jj12880) and add it in OP and https://www.reddit.com/r/crave and http://mycrave.org/ add too

 we are all here. following your works. and i appreciate .

Yeah,
same here,we're watching 

[CDarvin81]

Hi.
After the release of the new source i was able to compile rhe new wallet.
But now if i try to run these in the update folder i get this:

vagrant@precise32:~/update/crave/src$ ./craved
./craved: symbol lookup error: ./craved: undefined symbol: secp256k1_start

Any idea?

[CryptoVote]

Hi.
After the release of the new source i was able to compile rhe new wallet.
But now if i try to run these in the update folder i get this:

vagrant@precise32:~/update/crave/src$ ./craved
./craved: symbol lookup error: ./craved: undefined symbol: secp256k1_start

Any idea?

You need a different secp256k1 version.  See these instructions:

Code:

git clone http://www.github.com/bitcoin/secp256k1
cd secp256k1
git checkout a1d5ae1
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
make install

[CryptoVote]

Could you please be kind to commit the fix for this on the GitHub Repo and share the Windows Binaries

Changed crave.pro in a branch push request on GitHub named CryptoDJ-MissingReferences

I added references to these source code files:
    src/qt/blockbrowser.h
    src/qt/blockbrowser.cpp
    src/qt/forms/blockbrowser.ui

The Qt wallet should compile after that.  I'm working on compiling the Windows version.

[CryptoVote]

The new Crave Qt Wallet for 32 bit Windows is here:
https://mega.nz/#!r8ECgI7I!2sMN9ei4q_IOZrMio6iJ9KaMQvLW3657cil91FR1UYM

I am still testing this version but my Linux and Windows instances are having problems synchronizing the blockchain and only have one connection.

We really need DNS seed nodes to help boost connections...

I have 35 active connection and my blockchain is up to date using the new oxytocin release.

when staking with the new release, I am getting many conflicted transactions

Status: conflicted
Date: 9/12/2015 22:34
Source: Generated
Debit: 0.00 CRAVE
To: BxedA7jsReWwU9P5sautzSAKqp8FfxjHmJ
Debit: -0.66666666 CRAVE
Net amount: -9.12 CRAVE
Transaction ID: 9bcba4409dd267ae5d7115dc96f84b09063e48d575def2c31e1e5f1ec0bbd601-000

I got about 20  conflicts in an hour.  I am back to using the previous version.

I got the Linux version to sync by first running the ICM version.

Crave Oxytocin appears to be running okay but I will continue testing.  I will get the Windows version working and test.

Anyone else testing the new version?

[ITileclooTI]

If what has been relayed regarding the fork, is correct, everyone should stake something during the transition, as it has been advised that there is likely to be a few quick blocks when the fork occurs and then block confirmation time will even itself out.

[cisahasa]

Version Oxytocin Released!

I get this error when I try to compile this new version on Linux 64-bit:

Code:

bitcoingui.cpp:1006: undefined reference to `BlockBrowser::BlockBrowser(QWidget*)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Without this function, the project compiles and runs fine.

new win client crashing..  v1.4.5.0-g32a928e Quantum Loop
looking for reason

ok, forking because old ones not blocked..

[CryptoVote]

We will require a windows binary compile again...

Working on the Windows binary compile.

[Kamatezo]

Crave Bittrex DISABLED

[Kamatezo]

The new WALLET under windows does not synchronize. What to do???

[tema]

 do not rush to the issuance and use of new wallets. Dedicate more time testing

[cisahasa]

do not rush to the issuance and use of new wallets. Dedicate more time testing

glad its source is broken so dev must act now to save damage!
i would send alert to block new wallets

[CryptoVote]

Okay - Major Unupdated and Minor Updated, I have patched and caused the old clients to be blocked by the new ones...

We will require a windows binary compile again...

This is the link to the Windows 32-bit binaries:
https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/releases/download/v2015.09.14/crave-oxytocin-win32.7z

Damn! We will have to compile now again

Okay, but before I re-compile, I will test Crave Oxytocin on Linux with the reverted transaction fee.

[cisahasa]

i can test win by redownloading whole chain if u give link.
that will take time...

hope there are working seeds..

and i would pump protocol to 70001 to gain control

[Kamatezo]

Okay - Major Unupdated and Minor Updated, I have patched and caused the old clients to be blocked by the new ones...

We will require a windows binary compile again...

This is the link to the Windows 32-bit binaries:
https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/releases/download/v2015.09.14/crave-oxytocin-win32.7z

Damn! We will have to compile now again

This is the link to the newly compiled Windows 32-bit binary (Crave Oxytocin release candidate 3):
https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/releases/download/v2015.09.15/crave-oxytocin-win32-rc3.7z


DOES NOT TAKE NO SYNC BLOCK!

[cisahasa]

incoming transaction..

full sync!
upto block 186590

now just get other clients the this new chain
old ones are creating fork chain

biggest question is exchanges?
the ones that still trades at old chain?
and new chain?

there was too little time to people react. i would just continue like it is now.
if someone got damage it is not upto you if you informed them.

but new chain is ok and moving..

[syberwolfen]

incoming transaction..

full sync!
upto block 186590

now just get other clients the this new chain
old ones are creating fork chain

biggest question is exchanges?
the ones that still trades at old chain?
and new chain?

there was too little time to people react. i would just continue like it is now.
if someone got damage it is not upto you if you informed them.

but new chain is ok and moving..

let us know as soon as possible all my coin are in bittrex

[HasherMe]

incoming transaction..

full sync!
upto block 186590

now just get other clients the this new chain
old ones are creating fork chain

biggest question is exchanges?
the ones that still trades at old chain?
and new chain?

there was too little time to people react. i would just continue like it is now.
if someone got damage it is not upto you if you informed them.

but new chain is ok and moving..

I have 17 connections and fully synced with the most recent client release.  Not as many errors in the log... Looking good.
Get these errors for time to time:

Code:

ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: read txPrev failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : check proof-of-stake failed for block 4b9357665a81be49b4b0b6c288412f140bad3370b33d9be08ee2cf9e95abcbc2
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: read txPrev failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : check proof-of-stake failed for block 4b9357665a81be49b4b0b6c288412f140bad3370b33d9be08ee2cf9e95abcbc2
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: read txPrev failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : check proof-of-stake failed for block 4b9357665a81be49b4b0b6c288412f140bad3370b33d9be08ee2cf9e95abcbc2
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: read txPrev failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : check proof-of-stake failed for block 4b9357665a81be49b4b0b6c288412f140bad3370b33d9be08ee2cf9e95abcbc2
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK 47, prev=f2aaec5f4f328aac529725971b12679f55a97eba02609678f012d56d28a16843
Masternode payment to CFF5pnygwUFybwDBxoqfcobWkwJ1wMjgck

Stake is lower than my other nodes running old versions:
My Weight: 1,400
Network Weight: 2,200

I am sending the dev more Crave.  

[cisahasa]


getblockbynumber 186714

{
"hash" : "f240b433c64b18aaf39e3cf10635cbf0e96279d5a4ed433dc6a67372d3d82104",
"confirmations" : 1,
"size" : 479,
"height" : 186714,
"version" : 7,
"merkleroot" : "436737fd3412ffeeab78f2baf4af3e2a3bddab8fb4a1cea37c82b12a8ca4002b",
"mint" : 1.00000000,
"time" : 1442331088,
"nonce" : 0,
"bits" : "1b080d51",
"difficulty" : 8138.95428627,
"blocktrust" : "1fcb14172ee9",
"chaintrust" : "81af7333803e7b7c",
"previousblockhash" : "24e3acb16b29e791cde02b9fe1bd837e18e3021f2af203738fdfe2cf3ef097cd",
"flags" : "proof-of-stake",
"proofhash" : "000063bd572f53bf247b75688c15df34aea86ae2b0b13ef0f18d4f5257ab0485",
"entropybit" : 0,
"modifier" : "3cd29af3cab5c2c0",
"tx" : [
"f8598b2e35935fcba8187898e709dc096fc1048906585144a8351c5af618042f",
"c94cd9e06b3d5b9d65cf2f5964a77ca5fac6d55f24a73998b058e4a01913a0f9"
],
"signature" : "30450221009775f6d41a59a28e8c36b5754e1c86dba46fdbcf7eb8f363d56bcfe1ff0a16dc02201 cbe96aee6bfc4abced83c944604b85daa75fe7189c07fb007e609c41d790db3"
}

[daveolake]

I have ver v1.4.5.0-g32a928e on my nodes... do I, or when do I, have to update them to the new version? All seems to be running smooth, don't want to mess with it until I have to. 20 mn takes a while to do.

[JJ12880]

With the new wallet, all my master node blocks are unconfirmed?

[BitCoinNutJob]

Thank you for updates! You're doing great work man. CRAVE price is bargain now so I'm buying more.

[Kamatezo]

HELP !! I made a payment of bittrex a new wallet v2.0.0.0-g32a928e Quantum Loop. Blockchain shows 500 crave. And my wallet shows 0 CRAVE. What's up? What you did not see my 500 crave. My wallet is synchronized.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/address.dws?C1aonfAximWpVQtCK8rJfPz5qxZXtpdPv3.htm  And my wallet shows 0 CRAVE.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/address.dws?Bt11p5HZH1KWNTUEP4xLgZdrbQmdgwsd8y.htm  And my wallet shows 0 CRAVE.



This is my adrenaline me address ( mn adress )

[cisahasa]

exchanges needs to update their source..

[Kamatezo]

exchanges needs to update their source..

How long does it take? Should I be afraid of that lost their CRAVE?

[Kamatezo]

Managed to. I started the wallet in June 2015. I regained my CRAVE.

[hepilord]

chainz.cryptoid.info do not show node with new version

[TheTerminator]

i vote to be merge minable with other coins.  

[hepilord]

all tx in my new version wallets have status conflicted, and in staking wallet

[CryptoVote]

all tx in my new version wallets have status conflicted, and in staking wallet

Not enough people are using the new version.  I think that is causing the conflicts.  I am getting them as well.

[HackaB321]

all staking rewards are generated but not accepted with the new wallet

[LordCoder]

So which forkchain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

how mac users will update our wallets?
can i use the same wallet.dat on windows?

I think so, if it's the same code as Bitcoin-Qt it should be the same.

[EmilioMann]

I think so, if it's the same code as Bitcoin-Qt it should be the same.

thanks

[catotune]

I updated all my nodes 1-2 days ago. I am seeing this version:

v2.0.0.0-g32a928e Quantum Loop

And I'm currently on block 187511

Is this the latest client and the correct chain?

[8-bit-Party]

To minimize damage, bittrex chain should stay official one. Then prepare a new fork.

[guppy]

I've uploaded some crave today on bittrex and i didn't know that bittrex market was disabled.
Of course, they didn't appear in my bittrex adress by now, and i'm afraid that they won't appear when bittrex will enable crave market later.
Can you tell me if i must worry or not about it ?
I'm on Urge version.
I'd like to know if those coins will be on bittrex later.
If not, it means that's a big mess, and it could be nice to have the answer of that story: what must be done to avoid fork ?
I don't understand anymore how things have been done, rc1, rc2, rc3, what else ?
Must i sit on my loss because of some bugs into your updates , or will my crave be on bittrex soon ?
Thanks.

[CryptoVote]

I've uploaded some crave today on bittrex and i didn't know that bittrex market was disabled.
Of course, they didn't appear in my bittrex adress by now, and i'm afraid that they won't appear when bittrex will enable crave market later.
Can you tell me if i must worry or not about it ?
I'm on Urge version.
I'd like to know if those coins will be on bittrex later.
If not, it means that's a big mess, and it could be nice to have the answer of that story: what must be done to avoid fork ?
I don't understand anymore how things have been done, rc1, rc2, rc3, what else ?
Must i sit on my loss because of some bugs into your updates , or will my crave be on bittrex soon ?
Thanks.

Did you check your transaction in the BE: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave ?

[JJ12880]

I want to know something. If I'm not using NiceHash, can I still mine one the MultiPool ? Because I started to mine and I don't see any hashrate, everything at 0 MH/s.

I doubt that the multi pool updated their wallet

I have the multi-pool down right now, because it uses bittrex, and they have the wallet in maintenance mode.  Any earnings are not lost, and will be credited as soon as everything goes back up again. Any questions, feel free to ask!

JJ

You sure?

The multi-pool is build on top of nice-hash, so you would need to set it up through nice-hash. 
yup, if you mean the credits will be applied once the wallet is back online.
yup, if you mean the wallet in maintenance mode.  

[hawaii18k]

So which forkchain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Can someone help me clarify the situation now?  I have set up 3 mns fresh with rc3 just before this comment was made, which was early today.  It initially couldn't sync so I deleted existing block chain and reload the chain from the beginning and it worked.  Withdrawal of 500 from bittrex right before maintenance came through no problem and started to earn .6666 whatever.  So i thought fine.  

When I checked the block chain from explorer, it showed different chain.  Mine was shorter vs longer chain shown on block explorer.  It did show initial transfer of 500 but anything else after was not in that chain.

Clearly, block chain forked.  Question is, which one is legit? longer one or my shorter one?  Or no one know yet and perhaps depends on Bittrex's decision?  

When nittassin said, "I edited the code to postpone the fork to block 2000", does it mean, rc3 download has been altered, that I need to delete my current mn install and download, restart again?

Help me.  I got dumb from too much sun!!!!

[hepilord]

rc3 stops on block 188001

[cisahasa]

my advice is to use old code until there is a working fork..

[cisahasa]

good work in killing this coin

let the dev try.. i think he is on new coin..

and rc3 crashes on block 188001
there is no version pump so you cant tell hell about what clients are out there.
you cant even see have people updated sha256 fork ??

[CDarvin81]

Hi
I have 2 nodes the newest node with the newest code from github runs on block > 188001
So i try to compile the other new...

Code:

{
    "version" : "v2.0.0.0-g32a928e Quantum Loop",
    "protocolversion" : 70000,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 114.00693205,
    "blocks" : 188005,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 702408.50000000,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "62.75.187.41",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 115.31111462,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.48858223
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1429791961,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00001000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}

[niitassins_dad]

Wheeeeere is my small boy? I told him he can't play with the money of other people like that
This is afternoon in India now. Wheeeeeeere is my little boy Niitassin

[CDarvin81]

So...
The newest version from github didn't crashs again.
The Problem ist what is the official chain?
Blockexplorers chains are much bigger the any of ny chains.
Is the fork done or are the new versions <50%?

[niitassins_dad]

So...
The newest version from github didn't crashs again.
The Problem ist what is the official chain?
Blockexplorers chains are much bigger the any of ny chains.
Is the fork done or are the new versions <50%?

No one is following my son
All services, blockchain explorers and exchanges are still on the old chain!

[CDarvin81]

So...
The newest version from github didn't crashs again.
The Problem ist what is the official chain?
Blockexplorers chains are much bigger the any of ny chains.
Is the fork done or are the new versions <50%?

No one is following my son
All services, blockchain explorers and exchanges are still on the old chain!

Ok thanks... so i will switch back...

[CryptoVote]

So which forkchain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Can someone help me clarify the situation now?  I have set up 3 mns fresh with rc3 just before this comment was made, which was early today.  It initially couldn't sync so I deleted existing block chain and reload the chain from the beginning and it worked.  Withdrawal of 500 from bittrex right before maintenance came through no problem and started to earn .6666 whatever.  So i thought fine.  

When I checked the block chain from explorer, it showed different chain.  Mine was shorter vs longer chain shown on block explorer.  It did show initial transfer of 500 but anything else after was not in that chain.

Clearly, block chain forked.  Question is, which one is legit? longer one or my shorter one?  Or no one know yet and perhaps depends on Bittrex's decision?  

When nittassin said, "I edited the code to postpone the fork to block 2000", does it mean, rc3 download has been altered, that I need to delete my current mn install and download, restart again?

Help me.  I got dumb from too much sun!!!!

The shorter chain is RC3.  Should I recompile the Windows version to create RC4 (postpones the fork)?  I need to go to work but when I get back in 8 hours, I can recompile and send the link.  It is not clear to me what the community wants to do.

[cisahasa]

So which forkchain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Can someone help me clarify the situation now?  I have set up 3 mns fresh with rc3 just before this comment was made, which was early today.  It initially couldn't sync so I deleted existing block chain and reload the chain from the beginning and it worked.  Withdrawal of 500 from bittrex right before maintenance came through no problem and started to earn .6666 whatever.  So i thought fine.  

When I checked the block chain from explorer, it showed different chain.  Mine was shorter vs longer chain shown on block explorer.  It did show initial transfer of 500 but anything else after was not in that chain.

Clearly, block chain forked.  Question is, which one is legit? longer one or my shorter one?  Or no one know yet and perhaps depends on Bittrex's decision?  

When nittassin said, "I edited the code to postpone the fork to block 2000", does it mean, rc3 download has been altered, that I need to delete my current mn install and download, restart again?

Help me.  I got dumb from too much sun!!!!

The shorter chain is RC3.  Should I recompile the Windows version to create RC4 (postpones the fork)?  I need to go to work but when I get back in 8 hours, I can recompile and send the link.  It is not clear to me what the community wants to do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.0

[CryptoVote]

So which forkchain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Can someone help me clarify the situation now?  I have set up 3 mns fresh with rc3 just before this comment was made, which was early today.  It initially couldn't sync so I deleted existing block chain and reload the chain from the beginning and it worked.  Withdrawal of 500 from bittrex right before maintenance came through no problem and started to earn .6666 whatever.  So i thought fine.  

When I checked the block chain from explorer, it showed different chain.  Mine was shorter vs longer chain shown on block explorer.  It did show initial transfer of 500 but anything else after was not in that chain.

Clearly, block chain forked.  Question is, which one is legit? longer one or my shorter one?  Or no one know yet and perhaps depends on Bittrex's decision?  

When nittassin said, "I edited the code to postpone the fork to block 2000", does it mean, rc3 download has been altered, that I need to delete my current mn install and download, restart again?

Help me.  I got dumb from too much sun!!!!

The shorter chain is RC3.  Should I recompile the Windows version to create RC4 (postpones the fork)?  I need to go to work but when I get back in 8 hours, I can recompile and send the link.  It is not clear to me what the community wants to do.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.0

Sorry for the stupid question but is that a no?

[cisahasa]

i have no idea..
but if you can make working release, just put it out and let people choose.(win current wallet crashes for me)

[hawaii18k]

So I probably need to ditch my new rc3 qt and use old qt to rejoin the larger block chain.  But which one? oxy? or earlier one? Anyone got download link?

[cisahasa]

So I probably need to ditch my new rc3 qt and use old qt to rejoin the larger block chain.  But which one? oxy? or earlier one? Anyone got download link?

link  some page behind here..

i downloaded old chain from zero, did not take a long.

and you cant join old chain with rc3, its a mess now.
i would use ICM dev wallet for now. that is uptodate with explorers.
trades are in maintenance..

[hawaii18k]

Thanks.  I will try that.

[niitassins_dad]

My son is taking the right decision. Crave rebrand:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.msg12445532#msg12445532

[EmilioMann]

Don't change the name of the currency

[hawaii18k]

My son is taking the right decision. Crave rebrand:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.msg12445532#msg12445532

I'm not sure if you are fudding or trying very hard to piss me off....

Also, amid this confusion I will basically swap all the damn coins to a new chain, cisahasa, could you kindly enlighten me on any more vulnerability because I am caught myself in a hole...

Also, nobody updates, everybody is fucked in this chain trap, for now, switch back to the ICM Version of Crave....

It's not a rebrand, it a rebirth BTW

I don't know the reason for your persistent attempt to switch over into new algo, but your credibility has been tarnished due to recent rc3 fiasco.   Community will probably resist your next move.

Why not just fix the problem for now.  Stick to icm qt for now and postpone the new forking until rc3 is properly fixed.  No crashing. No unintended forking.   Let not your hard work go to waste.

When that is done, however slow it maybe, you can dish out your new grand plan.  Earn credibility, Earn respect.

Everyone makes mistakes.  Difference is some learns from it.  Perfection comes with price.

Thanks for your Crave efforts!!

*edit 
Btw, I did like new qt when it worked.  Small memory foot print and not resources heavy.  Good for my old mn pc.

[CryptoVote]

I don't know the reason for your persistent attempt to switch over into new algo, but your credibility has been tarnished due to recent rc3 fiasco.   Community will probably resist your next move.

Why not just fix the problem for now.  Stick to icm qt for now and postpone the new forking until rc3 is properly fixed.  No crashing. No unintended forking.   Let not your hard work go to waste.

When that is done, however slow it maybe, you can dish out your new grand plan.  Earn credibility, Earn respect.

Everyone makes mistakes.  Difference is some learns from it.  Perfection comes with price.

Thanks for your Crave efforts!!

*edit  
Btw, I did like new qt when it worked.  Small memory foot print and not resources heavy.  Good for my old mn pc.

I think our problem was a lack of testing and an necessary rush to deploy a new version.  I never understood the urgency. Coordinating a fork takes time and requires community acceptance/cooperation.  Unless there is a zero day exploit, we should never rush to deploy new, untested code.

I think the Crave urge market version was a good release:
https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/releases/download/v2015.08.28/crave-urge-32.7z

[catotune]

I think our problem was a lack of testing and an necessary rush to deploy a new version.  I never understood the urgency. Coordinating a fork takes time and requires community acceptance/cooperation.  

I agree completely with this statement, especially the part about a fork requiring community acceptance and cooperation.

I never got the sense that the entire CRAVE community supported, or even really knew about, this fork. I feel like someone (I won't say some "child", because I won't hold his age against him) just decided to make a bunch of crazy changes to a well-established, stable coin, and created a thread announcing he was going to take it over and everyone better upgrade to his version or else.

And like an idiot, I followed along. I lost dozens of hours trying to keep up with this nonsense, and I lost hundreds of coins in the transition between all the different versions (addresses with large balances whose private keys don't have any CRAVE when importing back into the old wallet).

If ICM updates his source, I will update my client. If this, or any other, random dev announces that he is going to "take over" this coin in the future, I am going to take it with a huge grain of salt. Lesson learned.

[CryptoVote]

I agree completely with this statement, especially the part about a fork requiring community acceptance and cooperation.

I never got the sense that the entire CRAVE community supported, or even really knew about, this fork. I feel like someone (I won't say some "child", because I won't hold his age against him) just decided to make a bunch of crazy changes to a well-established, stable coin, and created a thread announcing he was going to take it over and everyone better upgrade to his version or else.

And like an idiot, I followed along. I lost dozens of hours trying to keep up with this nonsense, and I lost hundreds of coins in the transition between all the different versions (addresses with large balances whose private keys don't have any CRAVE when importing back into the old wallet).

If ICM updates his source, I will update my client. If this, or any other, random dev announces that he is going to "take over" this coin in the future, I am going to take it with a huge grain of salt. Lesson learned.

Most of the changes made were meaningful but it wasn't well explained to the community.  Niitassin is a great developer but releasing a new version is not all dev work like end user acceptance.  Most the time the developer is way ahead of the end users at understanding the changes (because we have to code them) so explaining can be difficult.

If we gave folks a few MONTHS to test, upgrade and digest the changes, this would have been a much smoother transition.  ICM is likely gone forever so please don't scare away the devs that want to help. 

[CryptoVote]

Oops.

[catotune]

Most of the changes made were meaningful but it wasn't well explained to the community.  Niitassin is a great developer but releasing a new version is not all dev work like end user acceptance.  Most the time the developer is way ahead of the end users at understanding the changes (because we have to code them) so explaining can be difficult.

If we gave folks a few MONTHS to test, upgrade and digest the changes, this would have been a much smoother transition.  ICM is likely gone forever so please don't scare away the devs that want to help. 

Well said, and I agree that a well thought-out and communicated update to Crave would be fine, as long as the community is given enough time to understand, test, and give their consensus on it.

I just never felt right about this one, and my doubts were justified in the end. I am usually not this upset about anything that happens in the altcoin universe, but this "update" really cost me a lot of money and time that I should have instead spent with my family.

[cisahasa]

from console:

makekeypair

{
"PrivateKey" : "308201130201010420e62aa5c9c1f910ad9b0b8e2a1b1ccbb1f7a5fc6c5f03d3da603707610697b 385a081a53081a2020101302c06072a8648ce3d0101022100ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffffffffffffffffffffefffffc2f300604010004010704410479be667ef9dcbbac55a0629 5ce870b07029bfcdb2dce28d959f2815b16f81798483ada7726a3c4655da4fbfc0e1108a8fd17b4 48a68554199c47d08ffb10d4b8022100fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03 bbfd25e8cd0364141020101a144034200041cf40e6019ecfcf2f50ec953c1230c3acf6975eaeca1 4c373ee97d716a4d4b3606c0359c61f6bc4791aaa010229d3316b60194981e24f6c8cf968d13bbd 93120",
"PublicKey" : "041cf40e6019ecfcf2f50ec953c1230c3acf6975eaeca14c373ee97d716a4d4b3606c0359c61f6b c4791aaa010229d3316b60194981e24f6c8cf968d13bbd93120"
}

[JJ12880]

This is my mistake of doing forks that are just too much, so for now I will have to revert to the Adrenaline Version.... (With the Market and SHA256d Fork)

Everyone makes mistakes here and there. Ive had to learn the hard way too. There have been times ive pushed live code updates to projects that SHOULD have worked, but ended up breaking everything for one reason or another. Ive learned I have to make things iddiot proof, and test test test. If there is a way to break something, some knucklehead will find a way.


IMHO, this is a good place to start.  I wish i was more familiar with C++, I would offer to help.

revert code back to that market version.
update protocol every time you make a change.
you should revert version and pump protocol to 70001
atleast generate new key pairs to alert/checkpoint code.
(there are still 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes)

now the keys are in hands of icm, he can destroy the coin at this point if he wants.

JJ

[CryptoVote]

if you want to fix this
revert code back to that market version.
update protocol every time you make a change.
you should revert version and pump protocol to 70001
atleast generate new key pairs to alert/checkpoint code.
(there are still 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes)

now the keys are in hands of icm, he can destroy the coin at this point if he wants.

Interesting... Could you please explain what this means? What do the 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes signify?

If ICM destroying the coin is indeed the danger, then I think these keys are a million times more important than changing the algorithm and forking Crave to be PoW, which I think is completely unnecessary.

But what would make this dev more trustworthy than ICM if the problem is the same - one person holds all the keys to destroy a coin? ICM may or may not be gone, but he at least made me a lot of money and never wasted my time. This dev made me lose over 1 BTC worth of Crave and has shown extremely erratic judgment (Nothing personal, he is probably very intelligent, but it will take a lot to regain my trust).

My erratic judgement is due to my panic problem.... I tend to panic (a lot)

I will solemnly try to gain back your trust. The keys were not changed because we thought there was no immediate risk...

If we change key(s), who will hold and keep them safe?  Doesn't sound like a decentralized solution if one key holder can disrupt the system by activating an alert.  Maybe this alerting functionality should be disabled or limit its capacity to disrupt the system.  I don't think it was intended to keep this public alerting feature on or active after a coin matures but we have many version before Crave is mature.

I think adding the following functionality will help Crave:

1) Masternode consensus voting using a blockchain (like Dash).  Proceeds used for dev direction and funding foundation projects.
3) Reputation System for the Urge market.
2) User name generation for the Urge market (charge a fee to create a name and own the key)
4) VanityGen so we can prefix our wallet addresses
5) HTML5 UI for the entire wallet.

I will be implementing all these for another coin but it will take me a LONG time by myself. 

[cisahasa]

about alert keys, also bitcoin has them, but who holds the keys?
they say that they have a failsafe system if one of key holders will go mad.
what is that failsafe system, just cancelling alert by another holder?

[CryptoVote]

about alert keys, also bitcoin has them, but who holds the keys?
they say that they have a failsafe system if one of key holders will go mad.
what is that failsafe system, just cancelling alert by another holder?

I think the failsafe system is to ignore the alert. The purpose seems to push critical updates so I could see the alert showing up in the UI and debug.log with the option to shut it off with a command or crave.config setting.

[cisahasa]

about alert keys, also bitcoin has them, but who holds the keys?
they say that they have a failsafe system if one of key holders will go mad.
what is that failsafe system, just cancelling alert by another holder?

I think the failsafe system is to ignore the alert. The purpose seems to push critical updates so I could see the alert showing up in the UI and debug.log with the option to shut it off with a command or crave.config setting.

yes there is config optinon to ignore it.. but most people wont be able to do it(knowhow)

[Kamatezo]

Niitassin Before you take a break contact bittrex and help them with the wallet CRAVE. Because we do not have access to the wallet at CRAVE. It is DISABLED Bittrex.

[CryptoVote]

Niitassin Before you take a break contact bittrex and help them with the wallet CRAVE. Because we do not have access to the wallet at CRAVE. It is DISABLED Bittrex.

I agree.  Making sure Bittrex is okay should be priority #1.

[Delita Heiral]

[richiela]

Niitassin Before you take a break contact bittrex and help them with the wallet CRAVE. Because we do not have access to the wallet at CRAVE. It is DISABLED Bittrex.

I agree.  Making sure Bittrex is okay should be priority #1.

Whats the current consensus? Are we rolling back to the old wallet?  If someone can provide some guidance, i'll get everything back online here...

thanks,
richie@bittrex

[cisahasa]

Niitassin Before you take a break contact bittrex and help them with the wallet CRAVE. Because we do not have access to the wallet at CRAVE. It is DISABLED Bittrex.

I agree.  Making sure Bittrex is okay should be priority #1.

Whats the current consensus? Are we rolling back to the old wallet?  If someone can provide some guidance, i'll get everything back online here...

thanks,
richie@bittrex

i will answer this one
consensus is to revert code before oxything
https://github.com/laptoptip/crave/tree/f6b61d2a730828eb4644be52fb0e050e6933c570

but dev should pump the keys and version to that one.

[daveolake]

v1.4.5.0-g32a928e So is this the one we are going with? If so lets put it out there nice and clear. get it on front page and all the other forum threads cravers may be looking at.   

[Kamatezo]

Niitassin Before you take a break contact bittrex and help them with the wallet CRAVE. Because we do not have access to the wallet at CRAVE. It is DISABLED Bittrex.

I agree.  Making sure Bittrex is okay should be priority #1.

Whats the current consensus? Are we rolling back to the old wallet?  If someone can provide some guidance, i'll get everything back online here...



thanks,
richie@bittrex

Richiela - Yes . We go back to the old wallet. Wallets bittrex is OFFLINE and my CRAVE did not reach the bittrex 999.99998 crave the following address:
C2JhqhRdqHFT1HSQYqoQ8VjKU3Sz4sFMcx  Richela Pleas HELP ME

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/tx.dws?468210.htm

[8-bit-Party]

Wallets bittrex is OFFLINE and my CRAVE did not reach the bittrex 999.99998 crave the following address:
C2JhqhRdqHFT1HSQYqoQ8VjKU3Sz4sFMcx  Richela Pleas HELP ME

Sorry, your coins are lost.


Just kidding!

[Kamatezo]

Wallets bittrex is OFFLINE and my CRAVE did not reach the bittrex 999.99998 crave the following address:
C2JhqhRdqHFT1HSQYqoQ8VjKU3Sz4sFMcx  Richela Pleas HELP ME

Sorry, your coins are lost.


Just kidding!

Why do you think so???

[cisahasa]

Wallets bittrex is OFFLINE and my CRAVE did not reach the bittrex 999.99998 crave the following address:
C2JhqhRdqHFT1HSQYqoQ8VjKU3Sz4sFMcx  Richela Pleas HELP ME

Sorry, your coins are lost.


Just kidding!

Why do you think so???

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/tx.dws?468210.htm

there your coins are, dont listen bullshit

[8-bit-Party]

Wallets bittrex is OFFLINE and my CRAVE did not reach the bittrex 999.99998 crave the following address:
C2JhqhRdqHFT1HSQYqoQ8VjKU3Sz4sFMcx  Richela Pleas HELP ME

Sorry, your coins are lost.


Just kidding!

Why do you think so???

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

Hey pseudo Dev,
please leave Crave as it is and care about any other or a new coin.
We don't wanna see destroying Crave by your silly acts.
Anyway at least I will not update anything made by you and I hope I'm not alone.

Thanks

[tema]

Hey pseudo Dev,
please leave Crave as it is and care about any other or a new coin.
We don't wanna see destroying Crave by your silly acts.
Anyway at least I will not update anything made by you and I hope I'm not alone.

Thanks

 He has already created a new coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184353.msg12463992#msg12463992

I am remain in a stable working version v1.4.5.0-g32a928e

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

Hey pseudo Dev,
please leave Crave as it is and care about any other or a new coin.
We don't wanna see destroying Crave by your silly acts.
Anyway at least I will not update anything made by you and I hope I'm not alone.

Thanks

 He has already created a new coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184353.msg12463992#msg12463992

I am remain in a stable working version v1.4.5.0-g32a928e

Me too

[NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER]

I recommend to move back to ICM thread or to my afterparty thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110730.900

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1145727.new#new

[niitassins_dad]

Please don't follow my son niitassin. I lost control over this brat and he is doing bullshit now.
My small boy just fucked up the crave takeover.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155824.msg12450364#msg12450364

The last two days, he announced two new coins which names already exists.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184353.msg12463992#msg12463992

My s0n is completely lost. Be really careful and if you find him, tell me.

[richiela]

We have moved back to the original code before the fork.  It is an earlier version but is in sync with the blockexplorer:

    "version" : "v1.4.0.0-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 60020,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


cravecoin getblockhash 190988
096225bfa8bb5b70627ae6e6e36cadd9479f84625b20c22296b5ce924945c34a

wallet is back reopen.  if/when a new dev picks this up, please have someone reach out to us.

thanks,
richie@bittrex

[Kamatezo]

So far the new DEV proved only so much that a kid who does not listen to us and do everything without consulting with us. I do not agree to change the name for CRAVE and change LOGO!

[tema]

So far the new DEV proved only so much that a kid who does not listen to us and do everything without consulting with us. I do not agree to change the name for CRAVE and change LOGO!

 I agree with you. Crave site, good working windows, osX, android wallets and community forum with guides http://mycrave.org/

[cisahasa]

Please don't follow my son niitassin. I lost control over this brat and he is doing bullshit now.
My small boy just fucked up the crave takeover.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155824.msg12450364#msg12450364

The last two days, he announced two new coins which names already exists.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184353.msg12463992#msg12463992

My s0n is completely lost. Be really careful and if you find him, tell me.

cant you control your child?

[hawaii18k]

Then CryptoVote will have to compile again and if the majority isn't updating then pushing the update is worthless

I don't mind re-compiling for Windows. If we give users at least 2 months to upgrade, we might get the majority of clients.  This also gives us adequately time to test and work on the next version.  Microsoft and others have pushed some bad patches in the past so some folks wait until the the new version is well tested before considering an update (you know once bitten...).  Others don't care or don't know about it.

Let's do that then, I will modify the code to Fork in November 5 (Remember, Remember the Fifth of November)

What about forking issue?  Shouldn't new qt stay within current block until November 5th?    Problem with previous RC3 was it forked before the reaching the 18800 whatever block height it supposed to forked at, creating a rogue block.    To me that core of the problem.  Am I wrong? 

[Dexter12]

LoL ... one more Niitassin Fail!

[niitassins_dad]

Please don't follow my son niitassin. I lost control over this brat and he is doing bullshit now.
My small boy just fucked up the crave takeover.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155824.msg12450364#msg12450364

The last two days, he announced two new coins which names already exists.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1182590.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184353.msg12463992#msg12463992

My s0n is completely lost. Be really careful and if you find him, tell me.

cant you control your child?

I found my little son niitassin. He will not bother you anymore on bitcointalk with his takeover or new cryptos because he just started a new singer career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9tOwW9rwYI

[HasherMe]

LoL ... one more Niitassin Fail!

What are the other failures?  I wasted a little time testing but that is how it goes.

I found my little son niitassin. He will not bother you anymore on bitcointalk with his takeover or new cryptos because he just started a new singer career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9tOwW9rwYI

Funny video!  Your son will be big one day.

[Dexter12]

LoL ... one more Niitassin Fail!

What are the other failures?  I wasted a little time testing but that is how it goes.

For example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1087357.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1046799.0

[nix_on]

LoL ... one more Niitassin Fail!

What are the other failures?  I wasted a little time testing but that is how it goes.

I found my little son niitassin. He will not bother you anymore on bitcointalk with his takeover or new cryptos because he just started a new singer career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9tOwW9rwYI

Funny video!  Your son will be big one day.

That one is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftXVzFrg1k

[Blazin8888]

LOL people are still following this JOKE. I made like 10 grand off stupid people buying into this idea. LOL someone is actually trying to pull this off again. Ok I dont think people are stupid enough to fall for this 2 times. ICM left along time ago and we ca$hhhheddd out



SDC is a possible pumper though. It will probably see 20 cents again.


For those of you wasting your time here id go elsewhere this coin died earlier this year. I cashed out and made good money. I say you guys hop on Bitshares train before you miss some real profits.


No one is going to use the URGE market. Ill tell you that right now. Just like no one is going to use SDC. There is no need for it. None of you know what the DNM Big timers are planning next. Its sad to see you all doing this and wasting your time. They have other real plans that they control. People who have products to sell will not list them on Crave. There are well established vendors and well known people on the DNMs who already have networks worked out and plans in place for the FUTURE of DNMS. CRAVE,SLING,SHADOWCASH..none of those will be it kids.

[CryptoVote]

There are well established vendors and well known people on the DNMs who already have networks worked out and plans in place for the FUTURE of DNMS. CRAVE,SLING,SHADOWCASH..none of those will be it kids.

How many DNM exit scams has there been so far but now these well coordinated vendors have an absolute plan that doesn't include CRAVE,SLING, SDC... You think they like it when they loose their money, ratings and customers because the admin goes scam or gets caught.  They like it when the police can seize the central db and compromise their security.  Nothing has been done so far but they got it worked out.

I don't care about getting DNMs (I am looking at eBay) but I think you are making things up with these statements.  Please provide evidence or at least solid reasoning to backup your statements otherwise you sound like Nostradamus or a Bitshares pusher.  

My brother and I had an eBay business but we had to stop because the margins were so low. Ebay and PayPal made all the money and we did all the work.  They take 13-15%.  Sound fair to pay that much to use ~20 year old tech?  

I am surprised SDC hasn't release their market yet.  Maybe they got the memo from the DNMs that nobody will use this tech.

[CryptoVote]

What happened to the niitassins? I hope y'all didn't scare him away! If we could only harness his talents, Crave would be a much better coin.  He is a good dev but needs community direction and support. I think we failed as a community and now Crave is stagnant and let face it, CRAVE has many many many issues with no one to fix them....  What are we going to do about it?

[paolo77]

crypsty scam crave !!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1196904.0

[n3o111]

What happened to OP niitassin? He's not online for 9 days. Somebody took him as hostage? Or he was missed in the supermarket? I was going to trust this 12 year old developer with great talent. He made CRAVE one of the best coins out here. If you see him please let me know. I'm gonna buy all his CRAVE.

[Erkallys]

What happened to OP niitassin? He's not online for 9 days. Somebody took him as hostage? Or he was missed in the supermarket? I was going to trust this 12 year old developer with great talent. He made CRAVE one of the best coins out here. If you see him please let me know. I'm gonna buy all his CRAVE.

As I understood, her "father" said that he gave up cryptocurrencies to start his singer career  !

[niitassins_dad]

Yes, my son is quite ready to release his new single: "Dev in love"

[PaidFudder]

jerkcoin

[JJ12880]

Oh hi

[incognitoworker]

Hello community,

Right now we are working most in the background products/infrastructure around all coins/projects.
Xqn and global/axiom swap is highest priority atm to fulfill some old promises made from others who left.
We aim for a full documentation and presantation of our plans in Q1-Q2 this year.

CryptOS is what we want to rebrand Crave into, as a part in project "Gatekeeper".
Its about time to start discussing in forum what people want for services, we will provide a tool that makes it possible to do EVERYTHING related to IT,Computers, cloud, digital comunication, encryption and the list goes on.

What do YOU want to do with your involvment?

To those selling Crave, why keep dumping on yobit when you can get better profits with our XQN peg??
Our PEG is set to 10 XQN each crave, this is 1200 sat pr crave with todays prices, and to make it better, sell us back those XQN for any of our other pos coins at a 5% discount, then sell those coins on market to get your btc.
We need more Crave, to be able to fund the comming merge/swap in of ALL masternode communitys.

XQN is the only coin, who have the liquidity from other markets too, a closed loop economy, with liquidity from multiple independent markets...

IW

[PapillonV]

Hello community,

Right now we are working most in the background products/infrastructure around all coins/projects.
Xqn and global/axiom swap is highest priority atm to fulfill some old promises made from others who left.
We aim for a full documentation and presantation of our plans in Q1-Q2 this year.

CryptOS is what we want to rebrand Crave into, as a part in project "Gatekeeper".
Its about time to start discussing in forum what people want for services, we will provide a tool that makes it possible to do EVERYTHING related to IT,Computers, cloud, digital comunication, encryption and the list goes on.

What do YOU want to do with your involvment?

To those selling Crave, why keep dumping on yobit when you can get better profits with our XQN peg??
Our PEG is set to 10 XQN each crave, this is 1200 sat pr crave with todays prices, and to make it better, sell us back those XQN for any of our other pos coins at a 5% discount, then sell those coins on market to get your btc.
We need more Crave, to be able to fund the comming merge/swap in of ALL masternode communitys.

XQN is the only coin, who have the liquidity from other markets too, a closed loop economy, with liquidity from multiple independent markets...

IW

There are some news or nobody is engaged in the project?