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August 19, 2015, 03:15:57 PM
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It's not a bad solution. It's actually a good solution to give a choice to the free market wills.

So, spamming network with hundreds of XT nodes on distributed cloud-servers is free market will?
The same as supporting free speech with blocking Tor IPs ?

What is wrong with distributed cloud-servers? Large parts of the internet economy is running on them.


If you really want to vote do it with a node.


Yes, there's absolutely nothing wrong if a single person adds a few hundreds "votes" with rented cloud-servers Smiley
I may only suggest you renting a decent botnet to add 10K more votes.
How many of the Bitcoin Core Nodes are on rented cloud-servers?
Are this "votes" also invalid in your opinion?

I never heard somebody complaining about somebody running more than one full node.


Core nodes don't vote, they just work and serve.
But some mates started talking about "voting" with nodes, which is just absurd. Are they pretending that machines have the right to vote for things that can affect people ?

These cloud nodes only create illusion that XT is gaining popularity. There are 14% of these nodes, but XT's real hashing power is less than 0.1% Smiley


You might be against this process but technically this is how it works...

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August 19, 2015, 03:17:46 PM
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You might be against this process but technically this is how it works...

So, why wasting your time posting on forums?

Just buy a huge network and force XT to gain 75% of presence
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August 19, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
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I would go for Bitcoin core not another shit like XT  Grin
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August 19, 2015, 03:39:33 PM
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You might be against this process but technically this is how it works...

So, why wasting your time posting on forums?

Just buy a huge network and force XT to gain 75% of presence
That is not how it works.
The 75% is about mined blocks. The node count is just symbolic.

https://forum.bitcoin.com/
New censorship-free forum by Roger Ver. Try it out.
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August 19, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
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That is not how it works.
The 75% is about mined blocks. The node count is just symbolic.

So, why pushing that hype about the grow of XT nodes number ?

Real XT mining power is less than 0.1% and is declining with time.
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August 19, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
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That is not how it works.
The 75% is about mined blocks. The node count is just symbolic.

So, why pushing that hype about the grow of XT nodes number ?

Real XT mining power is less than 0.1% and is declining with time.

That doesn't make sense.
XT mining power is currently exactly 0.1%, since they count the last 1000 blocks to determine that.
How is it declining?

Like I said: The node count is symbolic.

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August 19, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
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That is not how it works.
The 75% is about mined blocks. The node count is just symbolic.

So, why pushing that hype about the grow of XT nodes number ?

Real XT mining power is less than 0.1% and is declining with time.


Hashpower Support for bigger blocks is around 70%.

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August 19, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
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It's not a bad solution. It's actually a good solution to give a choice to the free market wills.

So, spamming network with hundreds of XT nodes on distributed cloud-servers is free market will?
The same as supporting free speech with blocking Tor IPs ?

What is wrong with distributed cloud-servers? Large parts of the internet economy is running on them.


If you really want to vote do it with a node.


Yes, there's absolutely nothing wrong if a single person adds a few hundreds "votes" with rented cloud-servers Smiley
I may only suggest you renting a decent botnet to add 10K more votes.
How many of the Bitcoin Core Nodes are on rented cloud-servers?
Are this "votes" also invalid in your opinion?

I never heard somebody complaining about somebody running more than one full node.


Core nodes don't vote, they just work and serve.
But some mates started talking about "voting" with nodes, which is just absurd. Are they pretending that machines have the right to vote for things that can affect people ?

These cloud nodes only create illusion that XT is gaining popularity. There are 14% of these nodes, but XT's real hashing power is less than 0.1% Smiley


Any person(s) that would try to manipulate others based on "fake" nodes is shady in my book.  The question is, what are they trying to gain here?  I'll stick with Core.
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August 19, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
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It's not a bad solution. It's actually a good solution to give a choice to the free market wills.

So, spamming network with hundreds of XT nodes on distributed cloud-servers is free market will?
The same as supporting free speech with blocking Tor IPs ?

What is wrong with distributed cloud-servers? Large parts of the internet economy is running on them.


If you really want to vote do it with a node.


Yes, there's absolutely nothing wrong if a single person adds a few hundreds "votes" with rented cloud-servers Smiley
I may only suggest you renting a decent botnet to add 10K more votes.
How many of the Bitcoin Core Nodes are on rented cloud-servers?
Are this "votes" also invalid in your opinion?

I never heard somebody complaining about somebody running more than one full node.


Core nodes don't vote, they just work and serve.
But some mates started talking about "voting" with nodes, which is just absurd. Are they pretending that machines have the right to vote for things that can affect people ?

These cloud nodes only create illusion that XT is gaining popularity. There are 14% of these nodes, but XT's real hashing power is less than 0.1% Smiley


Any person(s) that would try to manipulate others based on "fake" nodes is shady in my book.  The question is, what are they trying to gain here?  I'll stick with Core.

Lol the fakenodes are created by the antiXT camp to discredit the bitcoinXT supporters.

And you fell for it beautifully.
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August 19, 2015, 04:40:26 PM
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Any person(s) that would try to manipulate others based on "fake" nodes is shady in my book.  The question is, what are they trying to gain here?  I'll stick with Core.

The definition of what is fake or real will go with the majority of nodes.

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August 19, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
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Hashpower Support for bigger blocks is around 70%.

I suppose they are not XT. Right ?
Btw, where can we see this stats ?

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August 19, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
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Hashpower Support for bigger blocks is around 70%.

I suppose they are not XT. Right ?
Btw, where can we see this stats ?



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1141086.0

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August 19, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
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Hashpower Support for bigger blocks is around 70%.

I suppose they are not XT. Right ?
Btw, where can we see this stats ?



Zero i hope you dont jump the gun so quickly next time. I know you have been here a long time. Give Mike or Gavin a benefit of doubt will you? Has Gavin done enough work for bitcoin to grow till today?

You remember the Satoshi dice days right? Many users add rule and compile their own clients to block the dust tx from the website as they considered it as attack.

So this rule isnt a major concern. It can be removed or changed at will.

The important change we're debating is the change of the protocol, the blocksize limit was not in original view of Satoshit. We need to raise the blocksize to move forward
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