XT 12.7% of Network - No blocks mined

[TKeenan]

Why does XT have 12.7% of network - yet no mined blocks?  Is it because the 12.7 are shill nodes without mining capacity?  This is a real indictment against XT as it means they are trying to manipulate the appearance of adoption.  What else do these XT proponents do that is dishonest? 

[meono]

Why does XT have 12.7% of network - yet no mined blocks?  Is it because the 12.7 are shill nodes without mining capacity?  This is a real indictment against XT as it means they are trying to manipulate the appearance of adoption.  What else do these XT proponents do that is dishonest?  

Since when do you think nodes mean miners?

Miners dont need to update until they know for sure other major services like merchants and exchanges update. Its even just a common sense.


FYI, Coinbase and Bitpay might be only 2 nodes, but they tip the economic scale of thousands of nodes. Remember this: Nodes are not a good indication of economic majority.

[Alley]

I run a node but dont mine.  Suprised a hero member doesnt know the difference

[jeffthebaker]

Why does XT have 12.7% of network - yet no mined blocks?  Is it because the 12.7 are shill nodes without mining capacity?  This is a real indictment against XT as it means they are trying to manipulate the appearance of adoption.  What else do these XT proponents do that is dishonest? 

I haven't kept up too much with the drama recently but I do know that Bitcoin-XT mined at least one block yesterday, by slush I believe. Since this was almost an entire day ago, I'm sure that more blocks have been mined since, what makes you think otherwise?

[quakefiend420]

I run a node but dont mine.  Suprised a hero member doesnt know the difference

This.

[Amph]

there something called "running a full node", besides this 12.7% is a low amount, if you think that core has only 6k node currently

probably those few that were running a core full node have switched to try XT or are Gavin's followers

[pedrog]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

[iCEBREAKER]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

[RGBKey]

Nodes do not equal mining power. I can run a node on a $5 VPS, does that mean I'm going to mine any blocks? Probably not.

[manselr]

Yeah, anyone running a sync wallet is basically a node. Maybe there is a lot of people using the core wallet as their wallet and don't even know they are active nodes in the network . But yeah theres definitely tons of shill XT nodes anyway, it's obvious they are trying to create a snowball effect by making the number seem bigger than it is.

[dserrano5]

I run a node but dont mine.  Suprised a hero member doesnt know the difference

Then you may want to redefine "Hero member" as "Member with a given activity and nothing else". Oh wait, that's exactly what "Hero member" means!

[Mickeyb]

Yeah, anyone running a sync wallet is basically a node. Maybe there is a lot of people using the core wallet as their wallet and don't even know they are active nodes in the network . But yeah theres definitely tons of shill XT nodes anyway, it's obvious they are trying to create a snowball effect by making the number seem bigger than it is.

Yes, they are trying everything to gain a momentum. In one separate thread, one of the users has proven that many of these 700+ nodes they appear to be running, are being run on the virtual servers, a free trial servers.

They are trying all that they can to inflate the numbers to get the most nodes as they can on board. This will work with the users that don't understand much the difference between the XT and the core.

[coinpr0n]

Yeah, anyone running a sync wallet is basically a node. Maybe there is a lot of people using the core wallet as their wallet and don't even know they are active nodes in the network . But yeah theres definitely tons of shill XT nodes anyway, it's obvious they are trying to create a snowball effect by making the number seem bigger than it is.

I don't think https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/ counts nodes that don't have port 8333 open. I doubt too many sync wallets are doing that unknowingly.

[desired_username]

Good. 12% in 4 days.

I hope miners switch as well until January.

Before anyone believes the BS spread by the AntiXT crowd, read the following, research the topic properly and make an educated decision:

https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0101.mediawiki

[turvarya]

Most miners are not even full nodes
These are two different things.

And again, someone who makes an anti-XT-thread, who doesn't know shit and again, the mods don't move it to the Altcoin section since anti-XT-propaganda is fine, just pro-XT-topics are bad.
But I am sure, a mod will find a nice meme, since that seems to be everything they are capable of as an answer.

[Lucko]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

This was mined by Slush so we know it is not fake...

[knight22]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

This was mined by Slush so we know it is not fake...

Shuuuuut

FUDsters be like:

[adamstgBit]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

This was mined by Slush so we know it is not fake...

Slush is mining XT version blocks now?

[Lucko]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

This was mined by Slush so we know it is not fake...

Slush is mining XT version blocks now?

That was a test block. It will give users a way to vote. You will be able to mine XT and QT blcoks

[meono]

What about this https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000174419fa2ba5003e123dbd97c6982aff1863f016b04789d

Isn't this a XT block?

There's no way to tell, because someone created a fake and indistinguishable XT client. It could effectively cause a premature fork.

We won't know how much of that "12.7%" is real and how much is spoofed until XT's malicious trigger is (prematurely) activated.

This was mined by Slush so we know it is not fake...

Slush is mining XT version blocks now?

Is there a problem? They let their miners choose which version to mine.