BitPay suports BIP101 (which is run by bitcoinXT)

[knight22]

It is inevitable. All major players will support XT because it scales their operations. I'm pretty sure Mike and Gavin have been approached by them to release the code in the wild so they can use it. The free market will prevail.

[zeroday]

Please stop misinforming community. What are you doing is blatant manipulation in order to promote Bitcoin XT.

BitPay supports BIP101 (large blocks), but not XT!

Besides block size increase, Bitcoin XT client has other features that heavily affect privacy.

Proof:

Bitcoin XT contains an unmentioned addition which periodically downloads
lists of Tor IP addresses for blacklisting, this has considerable privacy
implications for hapless users which are being prompted to use the
software. The feature is not clearly described, is enabled by default,
and has a switch name which intentionally downplays what it is doing
(disableipprio). Furthermore these claimed anti-DoS measures are
trivially bypassed and so offer absolutely no protection whatsoever.

Connections are made over clearnet even when using a proxy or
onlynet=tor, which leaks connections on the P2P network with the real
location of the node. Knowledge of this traffic along with uptime metrics
from bitnodes.io can allow observers to easily correlate the location and
identity of persons running Bitcoin nodes. Denial of service can also be
used to crash and force a restart of an interesting node, which will
cause them to make a new request to the blacklist endpoint via the
clearnet on relaunch at the same time their P2P connections are made
through a proxy. Requests to the blacklisting URL also use a custom
Bitcoin XT user agent which makes users distinct from other internet
traffic if you have access to the endpoints logs.


https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23

Source: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html

[Carlton Banks]

They'll lose my business even if it's BIP 101

[turvarya]

Please stop this blatant promotion Bitcoin XT by misinforming community.

BitPay supports BIP101 (large blocks), but not XT!

Besides block size increase, Bitcoin XT client has other unmentioned features that affect privacy.

Proof:

Bitcoin XT contains an unmentioned addition which periodically downloads
lists of Tor IP addresses for blacklisting, this has considerable privacy
implications for hapless users which are being prompted to use the
software. The feature is not clearly described, is enabled by default,
and has a switch name which intentionally downplays what it is doing
(disableipprio). Furthermore these claimed anti-DoS measures are
trivially bypassed and so offer absolutely no protection whatsoever.

Connections are made over clearnet even when using a proxy or
onlynet=tor, which leaks connections on the P2P network with the real
location of the node. Knowledge of this traffic along with uptime metrics
from bitnodes.io can allow observers to easily correlate the location and
identity of persons running Bitcoin nodes. Denial of service can also be
used to crash and force a restart of an interesting node, which will
cause them to make a new request to the blacklist endpoint via the
clearnet on relaunch at the same time their P2P connections are made
through a proxy. Requests to the blacklisting URL also use a custom
Bitcoin XT user agent which makes users distinct from other internet
traffic if you have access to the endpoints logs.


https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23

Spurce: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html

Could you please stop spreding the lie, that it is unmentioned?
It is mentioned on the official website:
https://bitcoinxt.software/patches.html

[unamis76]

Good to see big players voicing their opinions. That being said, it's true, they aren't supporting XT specifically, they're supporting a BIP. What if this BIP reaches Core? Would they still be supporting XT?

[zeroday]

Could you please stop spreding the lie, that it is unmentioned?
It is mentioned on the official website:
https://bitcoinxt.software/patches.html

Was it mentioned from the first day of XT release ?
In the news and discussions there were statements that XT's only difference from Core is increased block size.

[Carlton Banks]

Could you please stop spreding the lie, that it is unmentioned?
It is mentioned on the official website:
https://bitcoinxt.software/patches.html

It's true, it is mentioned. Does that improve matters? Tor usage with XT is documented to be compromised in XT, how is that a good thing? Please explain.

[ChetnotAtkins]

Wow the lies you spread scream of desparation.

No BIP101 is not 'AKA bitcoinXT'! XT contains addtional code changes, as well as implying a hard fork and handing control of Bitcoin's code two to people with dubious intentions.


What BitPay certainly would like to see is BIP101 being implemented in BitcoinCore, but keep on shilling.

This attack against Bitcoin is real and the amount of shady characters promoting XT is staggering. Every Bitcoin user must do their best to reveal their lies and stop this XT nonsense.

[zeroday]

We need to explain the situation to media sources in order to make sure that press included privacy affecting features of XT forked client in their publications.

BIP101 is good, but blocking privacy and misinforming people is very bad.

[BillyBobZorton]

It is inevitable. All major players will support XT because it scales their operations. I'm pretty sure Mike and Gavin have been approached by them to release the code in the wild so they can use it. The free market will prevail.

What's so free market about centralized nodes, checkpoints, and basically a "benevolent dictator" controlling Bitcoin? Hearncoin winning is a tragedy. Say goodbye to privacy. This is an obvious NSA Trojan horse by Mike Hearn which has worked in QinetiQ, do your research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3d26tk/did_mike_hearn_work_in_sigint_does_he_now/

They are implementing a lot of shit with the excuse of an increased blocksize and you guys are falling for it. Sad to see. Whatever.

[turvarya]

Could you please stop spreding the lie, that it is unmentioned?
It is mentioned on the official website:
https://bitcoinxt.software/patches.html

It's true, it is mentioned. Does that improve matters? Tor usage with XT is documented to be compromised in XT, how is that a good thing? Please explain.

So, we agree, that saying it is unmentioned is a lie?
Good, now we can discuss if it is a bad implemantation.

Could you please stop spreding the lie, that it is unmentioned?
It is mentioned on the official website:
https://bitcoinxt.software/patches.html

Was it mentioned from the first day of XT release ?
In the news and discussions there were statements that XT's only difference from Core is increased block size.

Yes, it was always mentioned, that XT has other features than Core besides the blocksize increase.
Maybe you are just reading the wrong news sites.
And btw. there is an only-bigblocks-version:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks

[zeroday]

And btw. there is an only-bigblocks-version:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks

This is not the version available for download from official XT site.

Official XT version has a backdoor that allows NSA/CIA and other parties to start ddos attack that blocks Tor and de-anonymizes users.

[manselr]

That's indeed a bitch move OP, why say AKA? Your thread title is incorrect, I wonder if you will change it.
Bitpay hasn't said they support XT or Core by saying BIP101, but one would assume they mean Core+BIP101.

[turvarya]

And btw. there is an only-bigblocks-version:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks

This is not the version available for download from official XT site.

Official XT version has a backdoor that allows NSA/CIA and other parties to start ddos attack that blocks Tor and de-anonymizes users.

I guess you are talking about this:

data = urllib2.urlopen("https://check.torproject.org/exit-addresses").read()

https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/blob/2b918beb7e822fdc4450165e2a0162a75b5160ff/contrib/torips/gen-tor-ips.py

I don't find, where it is called. Can you show me?

[HostFat]

I don't find, where it is called. Can you show me?

There isn't
It is simply not true, this place if full of trolls and ignorants that simply doesn't know and doesn't want to understand anything about the topic.

It's a feature against dos attack, and if you don't like it? Bam! Just add -disableipprio before running the node/client. OMG!!!

Move on.

[knight22]

That's indeed a bitch move OP, why say AKA? Your thread title is incorrect, I wonder if you will change it.
Bitpay hasn't said they support XT or Core by saying BIP101, but one would assume they mean Core+BIP101.

Fine. Here some clarifications. Is that better?

[meono]

And btw. there is an only-bigblocks-version:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks

This is not the version available for download from official XT site.

Official XT version has a backdoor that allows NSA/CIA and other parties to start ddos attack that blocks Tor and de-anonymizes users.

OK you just add to my list of "things XT bashers say"

Bravo Zero, lack of understanding is one thing. Being an ignorance dumb fuck is another....

[meono]

I don't find, where it is called. Can you show me?

There isn't
It is simply not true, this place if full of trolls and ignorants that simply doesn't know and doesn't want to understand anything about the topic.

It's a feature against dos attack, and if you don't like it? Bam! Just add -disableipprio before running the node/client. OMG!!!

Move on.

Zero, hes talking about you!


Do you need me to translate for you?

[manselr]

That's indeed a bitch move OP, why say AKA? Your thread title is incorrect, I wonder if you will change it.
Bitpay hasn't said they support XT or Core by saying BIP101, but one would assume they mean Core+BIP101.

Fine. Here some clarifications. Is that better?

Yes, that sounds definitely correct, but everyone that always mentions XT always forgets to mention all the extra "features" of XT that may not be as nice as a blocksize increase.

[zeroday]

@meono, you can comment it from your original forum account

I don't find, where it is called. Can you show me?

There isn't
It is simply not true, this place if full of trolls and ignorants that simply doesn't know and doesn't want to understand anything about the topic.

It's a feature against dos attack, and if you don't like it? Bam! Just add -disableipprio before running the node/client. OMG!!!
Move on.

The most of the users are not aware about -disableipprio switch and this is not excuse.
XT client has Anti-DDOS tor blocking feature enabled by default which means that user's privacy can be compromised.