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July 28, 2019, 04:53:33 AM
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^  Real's time is now!  I hope they lose a match in their first 5 - 8 fixtures.  That could make their line on winning La Liga go to 5 or so.  Grin  The last time I checked, it was around 3ish...  Not much value in there imo.  

I might be risking a little amount on Atletico Madrid to win La Liga this season, because Barcelona doesn't look too good either, And Atletico Madrid really put up a good fight last season until the last few matches, A repetition of the 2013-14 season could well be on the cards again.

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July 28, 2019, 07:48:42 AM
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Real is indeed in a bad position but form can be turned around even during the season.
Please note that they build a new team and a lot of players are new signings so they need time to work as a team.
I think that we have to give them some time and not judge so early.
Real Madrid defense is their biggest challenge right now. It needs a complete make over. People blame Courtois or Keylor Navas but the major problem is with the back 4 and on top of that whenever Casemiro does not play, Real Madrid tends to concede lots of goals. And then there is indiscipline Ramos, Cavajal and Nacho seem to be competing for the highest number of Red - Yellow cards in the team each season especially when it comes to vital matches.

The forward line looks decent but the back line is just horrible. So we shall see 3-2,4-3, 4-2 score lines if things are not worked up on.

I wouldn't say that Ramos is a problem in Real Madrid's defense.
He is the most productive CB in La Liga in my opinion.
Apart from that, I agree with you about Nacho and Carvajal. Real needs to sign 2 good center backs at least if they want to be a competitive team again...
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July 28, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
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^  Real's time is now!  I hope they lose a match in their first 5 - 8 fixtures.  That could make their line on winning La Liga go to 5 or so.  Grin  The last time I checked, it was around 3ish...  Not much value in there imo. 


Check the odds now. Atletico trashed them 7:3 last night. It was 5:0 at half time. Didn't watch the game but I saw few hilarious pictures like Bale having time of his life while the team is conceding.

Or atletico- real heatmap, it was this one just used with some updated text can't find the tweet at the moment but found below on the google


Add to that all the injuries happening to them, yesterday they lost Jovic and Modric, the odds could be growing nicely. It seems Bale signed for some Chinese club so he is gone too, not that Zidane will miss him much.



LOOLOL!  I don't think the odds are gonna change that much cos of a friendly.  And the Spanish transfer window closes a month later...  So we'll see.

And Bale's staying.  Cheesy

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July 28, 2019, 08:12:11 PM
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I wouldn't say that Ramos is a problem in Real Madrid's defense.
He is the most productive CB in La Liga in my opinion.
Apart from that, I agree with you about Nacho and Carvajal. Real needs to sign 2 good center backs at least if they want to be a competitive team again...
Ramos is a legend and a very high scoring Centre Back, any team would love to have him. He is also a very good leader but he has 2 problems

1. Of course the discipline. It's costs Real Madrid sometimes especially the against tough Opponents

2. He moves forward so much(explains why he has a number of goals). This is at times disadvantageous especially if an opponent leads Real Madrid first. Ramos being a highly spirited player will feel desperate for a goal and start moving forward thus leaving gaps at the back.
With Marcelo and Cavajal also always pushing forward. A counter attack from an opponent easily yields into a goal.
During the times, the savior is usually Casemiro because he stay back.

Perhaps getting him better partners would work and also a back up DM for Casemiro.

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July 29, 2019, 12:19:19 AM
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I wouldn't say that Ramos is a problem in Real Madrid's defense.
He is the most productive CB in La Liga in my opinion.
Apart from that, I agree with you about Nacho and Carvajal. Real needs to sign 2 good center backs at least if they want to be a competitive team again...
However Ramos cannot be blamed because of the defeat that has occurred. Everyone has worked as it should and that's the fact.
And I agree if you say Ramos CB is the most productive. It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.
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July 29, 2019, 06:25:40 AM
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^  Real's time is now!  I hope they lose a match in their first 5 - 8 fixtures.  That could make their line on winning La Liga go to 5 or so.  Grin  The last time I checked, it was around 3ish...  Not much value in there imo. 


Check the odds now. Atletico trashed them 7:3 last night. It was 5:0 at half time. Didn't watch the game but I saw few hilarious pictures like Bale having time of his life while the team is conceding.

Or atletico- real heatmap, it was this one just used with some updated text can't find the tweet at the moment but found below on the google


Add to that all the injuries happening to them, yesterday they lost Jovic and Modric, the odds could be growing nicely. It seems Bale signed for some Chinese club so he is gone too, not that Zidane will miss him much.


This picture explains everything about the real Madrid defeat of Athletico, the two club formations are interconnected and Athletico Madrid really enjoys this formation LOL.
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July 29, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
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I wouldn't say that Ramos is a problem in Real Madrid's defense.
He is the most productive CB in La Liga in my opinion.
Apart from that, I agree with you about Nacho and Carvajal. Real needs to sign 2 good center backs at least if they want to be a competitive team again...
However Ramos cannot be blamed because of the defeat that has occurred. Everyone has worked as it should and that's the fact.
And I agree if you say Ramos CB is the most productive. It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.

Maybe Zidane and the board think that they are full in the defense.
I totally agree with you. Ramos is a great leader in Real's defense but they would needed another or two players along with him.
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It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.
We won't sign one not because the lack of time but because we don't need more CBs, we have four already (Nacho, Ramos, Varane, Militao), same as any other big club (for example, Man City has Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Laporte. Barcelona has Umtiti, Pique, Todibo, Lenglet).


Well, it seems like the Real Madrid's infirmary is getting a new patient (current list: Brahim, Asensio, Jovic, Mendy), Courtois is injured and will be out for at least 1 month.

About Real Madrid, what a shit pre-season we've had, huh? So far, we showed no improvement from the last few games of last season, now we have a bunch of injured players, and there's a weird atmosphere surrounding the club (it's way too early for that shit), could be uncertainty, I don't know, but things do not look good for us. I'm gonna be honest and say that I'll stay away from 1X2 bets at least at the start of the season, they're a coin flip...Not feeling too confident about my team right now,   Undecided

Let's see if we can at least have a decent performance tomorrow vs Spurs in the Audi Cup.

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July 29, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....

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July 29, 2019, 11:11:15 PM
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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....
It's really very sad for Bale. Who was initially told to leave and is now detained for not being allowed to leave. So, Bale will stay for next season and not go to another club because Real Madrid don't want to lose Bale for free.
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July 30, 2019, 05:22:28 AM
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It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.
We won't sign one not because the lack of time but because we don't need more CBs, we have four already (Nacho, Ramos, Varane, Militao), same as any other big club (for example, Man City has Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Laporte. Barcelona has Umtiti, Pique, Todibo, Lenglet).


I don't know for sure. But what you say is true that Real Madrid does not need a new CB for next season. Real Madrid's back line is not not solid, it's just the beginning (pre-season). We will see every club in the official competition.
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July 30, 2019, 07:36:22 AM
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I wouldn't say that Ramos is a problem in Real Madrid's defense.
He is the most productive CB in La Liga in my opinion.
Apart from that, I agree with you about Nacho and Carvajal. Real needs to sign 2 good center backs at least if they want to be a competitive team again...
However Ramos cannot be blamed because of the defeat that has occurred. Everyone has worked as it should and that's the fact.
And I agree if you say Ramos CB is the most productive. It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.

Maybe Zidane and the board think that they are full in the defense.
I totally agree with you. Ramos is a great leader in Real's defense but they would needed another or two players along with him.
Sergio Ramos besides being a central defender he has also sometimes been a decisive winner at a crucial moment, everyone must have remembered the moment Sergio scored with a header during the UCL final against Atletico Madrid, it was very spectacular.
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July 30, 2019, 08:51:08 AM
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It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.
We won't sign one not because the lack of time but because we don't need more CBs, we have four already (Nacho, Ramos, Varane, Militao), same as any other big club (for example, Man City has Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Laporte. Barcelona has Umtiti, Pique, Todibo, Lenglet).


I don't know for sure. But what you say is true that Real Madrid does not need a new CB for next season. Real Madrid's back line is not not solid, it's just the beginning (pre-season). We will see every club in the official competition.
I think real Madrid only requires rotation at the defender's position without the need to buy a new player but if it is needed maybe only one player. preseason cannot be a reference to describe how the game will be when the upcoming season begins.
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July 30, 2019, 04:41:52 PM
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Real Madrid is facing Spurs, currently trailing by 1-0. Navas replaces Courtois as the Belgian is out for a month due to injury. Bale is not included in the XI, I think Bale has done a deal with the Chinese club already. Pre-season isn't going well for Zidane and this match is important to come back. One thing is clear, Navas performs better than Courtois in Real Madrid. So, I don't give a shit to number 1 or 2 goalkeepers. Who performs better should be in the squad.

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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....
It's really very sad for Bale. Who was initially told to leave and is now detained for not being allowed to leave. So, Bale will stay for next season and not go to another club because Real Madrid don't want to lose Bale for free.
A very poor decision by Real as they are no certain about future of Bale he is still one of best footballers in world and they have to solve this issue before start of new season as Real already facing too many problems and Zidane is doing his best but these can take some time most of Real supporters feeling sad about this all situation hopefully this could be solved in next few days.
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July 30, 2019, 05:14:05 PM
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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....
It's really very sad for Bale. Who was initially told to leave and is now detained for not being allowed to leave. So, Bale will stay for next season and not go to another club because Real Madrid don't want to lose Bale for free.

At least, they should let him play in the starting line and not bench him to death.
It is so bad to have a player like Bale sitting on the bench as he has so much to offer to the football till his retirement.
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July 30, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
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Real Madrid is facing Spurs, currently trailing by 1-0. Navas replaces Courtois as the Belgian is out for a month due to injury. Bale is not included in the XI, I think Bale has done a deal with the Chinese club already. Pre-season isn't going well for Zidane and this match is important to come back. One thing is clear, Navas performs better than Courtois in Real Madrid. So, I don't give a shit to number 1 or 2 goalkeepers. Who performs better should be in the squad.
The Courtois signing was never necessary for Real Madrid.

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July 30, 2019, 11:52:42 PM
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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....
It's really very sad for Bale. Who was initially told to leave and is now detained for not being allowed to leave. So, Bale will stay for next season and not go to another club because Real Madrid don't want to lose Bale for free.

At least, they should let him play in the starting line and not bench him to death.
It is so bad to have a player like Bale sitting on the bench as he has so much to offer to the football till his retirement.

It's just matter of time and Bale and Real both would settle for a transfer. It's just they are looking for the best options.
There's no use of Bale still playing in for Real, its not just that Real don't want him to but it's also a matter of ethics for the forwards as the team has clearly asked him to leave.



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July 31, 2019, 04:40:38 AM
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It seems like Real Madrid will not bring in any new players for center-back either. There's no time for that anymore. Because the Transfer Window is nearing the end and it is impossible for real madrid to look for defenders at random.
We won't sign one not because the lack of time but because we don't need more CBs, we have four already (Nacho, Ramos, Varane, Militao), same as any other big club (for example, Man City has Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Laporte. Barcelona has Umtiti, Pique, Todibo, Lenglet).


I don't know for sure. But what you say is true that Real Madrid does not need a new CB for next season. Real Madrid's back line is not not solid, it's just the beginning (pre-season). We will see every club in the official competition.
I think real Madrid only requires rotation at the defender's position without the need to buy a new player but if it is needed maybe only one player. preseason cannot be a reference to describe how the game will be when the upcoming season begins.
That's what Real Madrid must do. And I think the addition of players to CB positions is indeed not needed. Madrid's back line can be said to be still strong, only I haven't all played optimally. In the last game against Spurs only Marcelo mistake made Tottenham win the match.
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July 31, 2019, 05:36:51 AM
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BALE stayed in Madrid, Previously Bale was called to pull out of Madrid. Zidane's statement a few weeks ago reinforced the fact that Bale no longer has a place in the Los Blancos squad. But, in the final moments, Madrid canceled Bale's move to Suning because they did not want to lose Bale for free. Moreover, Madrid was hit by a storm of injury in this preseason session, especially Marco Asensio who had to be absent for long....
It's really very sad for Bale. Who was initially told to leave and is now detained for not being allowed to leave. So, Bale will stay for next season and not go to another club because Real Madrid don't want to lose Bale for free.

At least, they should let him play in the starting line and not bench him to death.
It is so bad to have a player like Bale sitting on the bench as he has so much to offer to the football till his retirement.

It's just matter of time and Bale and Real both would settle for a transfer. It's just they are looking for the best options.
There's no use of Bale still playing in for Real, its not just that Real don't want him to but it's also a matter of ethics for the forwards as the team has clearly asked him to leave.

Right, they're looking for the best option for this transfer. Because of the failure to transfer to the Chinese club, there are two options that Bale must choose for his future.

• First option is to find another Chinese League club.
• Another option is to find a new club in the Premier League.

This is just an option, but if there is something better for Bale to do for his current status, it will be even better.
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