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August 23, 2015, 05:08:44 AM
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The original whitepaper PDF has this record:

"/CreationDate(D:20090324113315-06'00')"

This suggests that his timezone was UTC-6.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%E2%88%9206:00#/media/File:Timezones2008_UTC-6.png

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Wikipedia quotes an analysis of his posts that puts him in either UTC-5 or UTC-6.


Besides the date, it also records that he used OpenOffice 2.4.

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August 23, 2015, 05:13:08 AM
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August 23, 2015, 05:17:42 AM
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We will find out who Satoshi is after, like, 50 years of Bitcoin. And that day will be amazing.

PS: I think Satoshi is Google, btw.
Google represents everything that is wrong with the internet. Bitcoin represents the power of what the internet can be when the individual is in control not large companies and governments.

I think DPR is Satoshi  Grin
I seriously doubt that, he didn't have good opsec, impossible that he would be Satoshi Smiley

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August 23, 2015, 06:44:33 AM
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The mystery become almost solved, we are almost there Cheesy
We must find any other clue Grin

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August 23, 2015, 07:04:39 AM
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The original whitepaper PDF has this record:

"/CreationDate(D:20090324113315-06'00')"

This suggests that his timezone was UTC-6.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%E2%88%9206:00#/media/File:Timezones2008_UTC-6.png

Pretty narrow strip Smiley

Wikipedia quotes an analysis of his posts that puts him in either UTC-5 or UTC-6.


Besides the date, it also records that he used OpenOffice 2.4.

So what if he is from utc -6 place? Nothing. Stop digging start bitcoining.
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August 23, 2015, 07:45:10 AM
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There is no guarantee that that is his actual timezone. It is possible that he changed his clock to further hide himself.

He also could have posted at odd hours do that people searching for him would be following a red herring.

True, but that's a strange choice of timezone for somebody who claimed to be Japanese.

The fact that it correlates with post analysis only makes the case stronger.

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August 23, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
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I doubt Satoshi would have been able to cover all his tracks.. Something like this is easily overlooked, besides, I doubt he was trying that hard in the beginning..
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August 23, 2015, 12:19:07 PM
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I doubt Satoshi would have been able to cover all his tracks.. Something like this is easily overlooked, besides, I doubt he was trying that hard in the beginning..

This could be right.
If he was sure he covered all his tracks then he wouldn't disappear.
Or, he would at least himself make a formal statement that he was leaving Roll Eyes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts)
That last post of his sounds to me that he still had lots of work to do on Bitcoin....
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August 23, 2015, 12:22:45 PM
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There is no guarantee that that is his actual timezone. It is possible that he changed his clock to further hide himself.

He also could have posted at odd hours do that people searching for him would be following a red herring.

This is exactly what I was thinking. If he was really smart he would have left little things like this  to throw people off, though I'm not sure if he did or not (though obviously he is pretty smart and has evaded detection for this long).
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August 23, 2015, 12:39:50 PM
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This is exactly what I was thinking. If he was really smart he would have left little things like this  to throw people off, though I'm not sure if he did or not (though obviously he is pretty smart and has evaded detection for this long).

He would have set the timezone to Japan, don't you think? This looks more like a simple slip.

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August 23, 2015, 01:14:09 PM
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Even if you find his real timezone what will that give you? He could have been on vacation at the time or just working in another country. Even if he lived there years ago who says he is now?
We can't find the location of known scammers, people known by name like Danny Brewster and think we can locate Satoshi through his timezone.

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August 23, 2015, 01:19:35 PM
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...and think we can locate Satoshi through his timezone.

Did I say anywhere that I want to locate him?

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August 23, 2015, 01:39:33 PM
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At this point, if someone were to step forward even with sufficient proof that they were Satoshi, I personally think that most would not believe that person anyway. I also dont know why people think he is dead. He was obviously a shadowy figure so disapearing isn't all that surprising.

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August 23, 2015, 01:40:01 PM
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Yes, all of this obsession with who Satoshi is, is really too much! I am sure he will never be found unless if he wants to be found. He is just too smart and he had a head start to cover up his trails, and in all honesty, he has done a fine job out of it.

Maybe he will uncover himself when he will think that's safe enough. Maybe he waits for Bitcoin to become huge so he can make a world a better place with his 1 million coins. Who knows!
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August 23, 2015, 02:50:41 PM
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Another curious thing:

/Lang (en-GB)

For somebody in timezone -6 or -7 this would probably be "/Lang (en-US)". Is he Canadian?

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Occasional British English spelling and terminology (such as the phrase "bloody hard") in both source code comments and forum postings led to speculation that Nakamoto, or at least one individual in the consortium claiming to be him, was of Commonwealth origin.

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August 23, 2015, 02:56:27 PM
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You can obtain "bloody hard" from a direct translation of a Japanese phrase?

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August 23, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
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I doubt Satoshi would have been able to cover all his tracks.. Something like this is easily overlooked, besides, I doubt he was trying that hard in the beginning..

Well he's done a pretty good job so far. I think if you set out with the mindset to remain anon and know what you're doing it's not impossible. If I wanted to create a account with the intention of remaining 100% anon I think I could do it personally though wouldn't really have the need to.
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August 23, 2015, 03:26:24 PM
Last edit: August 23, 2015, 06:41:43 PM by Mr Felt
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Quote from a well-known paper: "My thanks to Jerome Barkow, Andrew Odlyzko, Bruce Smith, K. Eric Drexler, Markus Krummenacker, Mark Wiley, Norm Hardy, and others for their insightful comments."

Search those guys (plus the author & former companies); Search Sun Microsystems, look for a patent from 1995 that a Norm et al of these guys (+mark miller worked on); search Agorics Inc.; ta da - you got a crew that may (and easily could) have roguely created an open source money (in opposition to and to undercut patents in the pipeline).  

One thing that is curious is the presence of nanotech folks close to ns + his work at JPL + foresight institute.   These guys were preparing for humanity to get off the rock, as they say, and to ensure stores of value could travel w/ them.  

EDIT - From http://cap-lore.com/Agorics/Library/patent.html:

"Agorics employees authored the following patents. They are fundamental to the implementation of secure, electronic business applications and secure Web servers. Agorics, Inc., either owns or has license rights to each of these patents.

Patent: # US 4,584,639: Computer Security System
Status: Filed December 23, 1983; Granted: April 22, 1986.
Licensed to Agorics by Key Logic, Inc.

Patent: # US 5,640,569: Diverse Goods Arbitration System and Method for Allocating Resources In a Distributed Computer System
Status: Filed April 28, 1995; Granted: June 17, 1997.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 5,781,633: Capability Security for Transparent Distributed Object Systems
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: July 14, 1998.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 5,790,669: Lightweight Non-Repudiation System and Method
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: August 4, 1998.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 5,852,666: Capability Security for Distributed Object Systems
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: December 22, 1998.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 5,960,087: Distributed Garbage Collection System & Method
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: September 28, 1999.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 6,049,838: Persistent Distributed Capabilities
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: April 1l, 2000.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Patent: # US 6,161,121: Generic Transfer of Exclusive Rights
Status: Filed July 1, 1996; Granted: December 12, 2000.
Licensed to Agorics by Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Agorics' personnel are also among the authors of the following patents for the FSTC (Financial Services Technology Consortium):

Patent: # US 6,021,202: Method and System for Processing Electronic Documents
Status: Dec. 19, 1997; Granted: Feb. 1, 2000.

Patent: # US 6,209,095: Method and System for Processing Electronic Documents
Status: Filed: Aug. 31, 1999; Granted: Mar. 27, 2001."

Also: http://www.cap-lore.com/Agorics/Library/dsr.html ("To appear in Agoric Systems: Market Based Computation, edited by Wm. Tulloh, Mark S. Miller and Don Lavoie. This may be found by ftp at netcom.com:pub/joule/DSR1.ps.gz, DSR1.rtf.gz or DSR.txt") (recall a netcom.com email address).


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August 23, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
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Another curious thing:

/Lang (en-GB)

For somebody in timezone -6 or -7 this would probably be "/Lang (en-US)". Is he Canadian?

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Occasional British English spelling and terminology (such as the phrase "bloody hard") in both source code comments and forum postings led to speculation that Nakamoto, or at least one individual in the consortium claiming to be him, was of Commonwealth origin.

He posted in both British and American English.

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August 23, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
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He was not only 1 person, it is absolutelly sure. We can confirm that IT is not death for the same reason, "he"/"she" was lot of persons i think.

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