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November 11, 2019, 03:18:01 PM
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Stats aren't always right teams used it to inflate their players' market value and try to make interested clubs to overspend on those players, we've seen these several times already where they will measure the player's value with the stats he created but at the end some of them turns out to be mediocre players in other teams. About Milan and Juve's game today I was really surprised that Milan had hold up Juve to be goaless in the first half and it wasn't almost at the end of the game where things have changed for Milan. I'm really happy with how they played today against the top team in Serie A and I really didn't expect this to be a 1-0 defeat.

An existing mathematical model is based on everything happens in the game is called XG.

Those are called expected Goals.

You can find an explanation here. https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/explanation

The XG for Juventus Milan was 1.12 vs 0.52



In infinite numbers of the same mathces, Juventus will score 1.12 goals and Milan 0.52

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November 11, 2019, 03:44:55 PM
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very interesting source (https://understat.com/)
I'm building an excel, with some algos inside, working on it for years... and, this king of stats can be very useful
tnx for sharing that source

if you maybe know a similar source please send me the links, i will appreciate that
(I need the tables from those sites to be imported in my excel so I will try to make my best predictions, using that data, this is why I'm asking that)

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November 11, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
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AS Roma lost to Parma I thought this would be won by Roma but it failed, even though Rome's kicking opportunities were quite a lot but none of the goals were scored.
annoyed to see this match.

I was expecting that Roma is going to find difficulties in this game but not that much.
Parma is strong in the home games. But Roma should be more competitive as they had a good psychology after winning Napoli.
Milan was more competitive against Juventus.  Grin
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November 13, 2019, 09:43:21 AM
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Juventus will face Atalanta while Inter Milan will face Torino will one of the top teams miss the defeat? Atalanta A strong team in Serie A will either overthrow Juventus or in the other hand Inter Milan will win against Torino.

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November 13, 2019, 10:43:52 AM
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AS Roma lost to Parma I thought this would be won by Roma but it failed, even though Rome's kicking opportunities were quite a lot but none of the goals were scored.
annoyed to see this match.

I was expecting that Roma is going to find difficulties in this game but not that much.
Parma is strong in the home games. But Roma should be more competitive as they had a good psychology after winning Napoli.
Milan was more competitive against Juventus.  Grin
AS Roma were very dominant in the game in that they had more possession than Parma but when it came to creating chances and scoring goals that's when they were severely lacking. A win for them would have taken them to the third position on the Serie A.
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November 13, 2019, 01:04:54 PM
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Juventus will face Atalanta while Inter Milan will face Torino will one of the top teams miss the defeat? Atalanta A strong team in Serie A will either overthrow Juventus or in the other hand Inter Milan will win against Torino.

Next turn it will be a hard very hard match for Juventus.
It will be also a hard match for Inter but it will be more affordable.

I will be not suprised if Juventus will end with a draw.

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if you maybe know a similar source please send me the links, i will appreciate that
(I need the tables from those sites to be imported in my excel so I will try to make my best predictions, using that data, this is why I'm asking that)

Understat and Whoscored are two of the best sources on the internet. Opta and Squawka is also a good source for form or previous match stats such as winning streak, shots on target etc.

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November 13, 2019, 02:20:38 PM
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Juventus will face Atalanta while Inter Milan will face Torino will one of the top teams miss the defeat? Atalanta A strong team in Serie A will either overthrow Juventus or in the other hand Inter Milan will win against Torino.

Next turn it will be a hard very hard match for Juventus.
It will be also a hard match for Inter but it will be more affordable.

I will be not suprised if Juventus will end with a draw.

If your prediction is that Juventus will draw against Atalanta then I think this is an opportunity for Inter Milan against an easy team, Torino?
Inter Milan 1 point difference then Conte must try to enter a strategy in order to win against Torino.

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November 13, 2019, 06:14:58 PM
 #12529

if you maybe know a similar source please send me the links, i will appreciate that
(I need the tables from those sites to be imported in my excel so I will try to make my best predictions, using that data, this is why I'm asking that)

Understat and Whoscored are two of the best sources on the internet. Opta and Squawka is also a good source for form or previous match stats such as winning streak, shots on target etc.

Tnx
I know those two
The main problem is that you cannot easily import their data into an excel
I need “table”, if a site has javascript or some other code I cannot import the data I need
Now I moslty use betexplorer, but there I’m missig some very important data

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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November 13, 2019, 07:19:59 PM
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I'm seeing news that it looks like Moise Kean is going back to Serie A and this time he might be wearing the red and blacks of AC Milan. Mino Raiola, the agent of Moise Kean, is the one who first contacted Milan and they are talking about a potential January transfer window move with him. Milan might be interested in the offer since they offloaded their young star, Patrick Cutrone, last summer and they didn't really have any replacement for him.  Hopefully Everton won't overvalue him since he is the one asking for the move and I know Milan's management isn't too trigger friendly went it comes to shelling out big transfer budgets specially in the January transfer window.
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November 13, 2019, 08:06:41 PM
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AS Roma lost to Parma I thought this would be won by Roma but it failed, even though Rome's kicking opportunities were quite a lot but none of the goals were scored.
annoyed to see this match.

I was expecting that Roma is going to find difficulties in this game but not that much.
Parma is strong in the home games. But Roma should be more competitive as they had a good psychology after winning Napoli.
Milan was more competitive against Juventus.  Grin
AS Roma were very dominant in the game in that they had more possession than Parma but when it came to creating chances and scoring goals that's when they were severely lacking. A win for them would have taken them to the third position on the Serie A.

Indeed, if Roma managed to win this game they would have climbed high in the league table.
But, for Parma this win was significant as well. Every win for them gets them closer to stay in the Serie A league the next season as well. Especially when they win big clubs such as Roma.
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I'm seeing news that it looks like Moise Kean is going back to Serie A and this time he might be wearing the red and blacks of AC Milan. Mino Raiola, the agent of Moise Kean, is the one who first contacted Milan and they are talking about a potential January transfer window move with him. Milan might be interested in the offer since they offloaded their young star, Patrick Cutrone, last summer and they didn't really have any replacement for him.  Hopefully Everton won't overvalue him since he is the one asking for the move and I know Milan's management isn't too trigger friendly went it comes to shelling out big transfer budgets specially in the January transfer window.

Moise Kean might look like a good young prospect for the Serie A league but that's all there is he is just a prospect and he can't really imrpove the team overall or give any kind of noticeable contributions when he will be in the team. If you didn't notice Milan needs players who will contribute right away and not a young prospect that they will have to wait a year or two for them to start benefiting. Right now I don't see Moise Kean even at the same level of Piatek, the team would be better off spending those millions on a veteran.

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November 13, 2019, 10:17:58 PM
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Juventus will face Atalanta while Inter Milan will face Torino will one of the top teams miss the defeat? Atalanta A strong team in Serie A will either overthrow Juventus or in the other hand Inter Milan will win against Torino.
Atalanta could just be the team to actually stop juventus at this moment, Atalanta are a very decent and composed team, and with the unrest Ronaldo is currently creating in the team due to his anger at being substituted in the last game, there may just be some disunity in the team at the moment, on which Atalanta can capitalize on

Inter will have to keep winning, if they are to compete for the title, juve hardly lose games all season long, and so to inter must likewise also be winning, so that when juve actually drop points, they'll be there to go top of the table.
This two teams are giving us a really competitive and interesting title race this season.


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November 13, 2019, 10:46:19 PM
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Ronaldo is currently creating in the team due to his anger at being substituted in the last game, there may just be some disunity in the team at the moment


Nah this is what the press wants.
Create flame to get clicks and earn money from ads, people will never learn this.

Media especially here in Italy are garbage and they use this idea to earn them more money possible. People will never understand this.

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November 14, 2019, 06:45:42 AM
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Juventus will face Atalanta while Inter Milan will face Torino will one of the top teams miss the defeat? Atalanta A strong team in Serie A will either overthrow Juventus or in the other hand Inter Milan will win against Torino.
Atalanta could just be the team to actually stop juventus at this moment, Atalanta are a very decent and composed team, and with the unrest Ronaldo is currently creating in the team due to his anger at being substituted in the last game, there may just be some disunity in the team at the moment, on which Atalanta can capitalize on

Inter will have to keep winning, if they are to compete for the title, juve hardly lose games all season long, and so to inter must likewise also be winning, so that when juve actually drop points, they'll be there to go top of the table.
This two teams are giving us a really competitive and interesting title race this season.



The Serie A is looking a bit more competitive this year with Conte driving Inter to really good gameplays.I don’t think Atalanta will be a team to stop Juventus as Juventus has always won against Atalanta during the last two years.I don’t think Ronaldo at the age of 34 needs to create unrest for a simple substitution so I think there will be no problems for Juventus to win this game.

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November 14, 2019, 07:15:27 AM
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The Serie A is looking a bit more competitive this year with Conte driving Inter to really good gameplays.I don’t think Atalanta will be a team to stop Juventus as Juventus has always won against Atalanta during the last two years.I don’t think Ronaldo at the age of 34 needs to create unrest for a simple substitution so I think there will be no problems for Juventus to win this game.

@swogerino Inter Milan has a realistic chance of winning the league title, as they’re trailing Juventus by one point only. At this stage I feel Conte should be given more funds to spend in the January transfer window, so he can further strengthen his squad and finally stop Juventus from winning the league title. As far as I know Ronaldo is a professional footballer and he’ll never create any kind of unrest, I feel the media has blown this issue out of proportion.
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November 14, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
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The Serie A is looking a bit more competitive this year with Conte driving Inter to really good gameplays.I don’t think Atalanta will be a team to stop Juventus as Juventus has always won against Atalanta during the last two years.I don’t think Ronaldo at the age of 34 needs to create unrest for a simple substitution so I think there will be no problems for Juventus to win this game.

@swogerino Inter Milan has a realistic chance of winning the league title, as they’re trailing Juventus by one point only. At this stage I feel Conte should be given more funds to spend in the January transfer window, so he can further strengthen his squad and finally stop Juventus from winning the league title. As far as I know Ronaldo is a professional footballer and he’ll never create any kind of unrest, I feel the media has blown this issue out of proportion.

In the transfer season Inter Milan will only target Kulusevski and Darmian players from Parma but that there has been no explanation from his management, if they shop for midfield players then Inter Milan will have a chance to win against Juventus because it is already strong from his squad.

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November 14, 2019, 09:03:57 AM
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I told you guys that this would be the two horses race. However, I think Inter wouldn't be able to keep the performance level high because of its lack of squad depth. Once injuries and fatigues hit the Inter team, no team could challenge Juventus.

Inter need one or two transfer windows to build the depth.

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November 14, 2019, 09:14:32 AM
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I told you guys that this would be the two horses race. However, I think Inter wouldn't be able to keep the performance level high because of its lack of squad depth. Once injuries and fatigues hit the Inter team, no team could challenge Juventus.

Inter need one or two transfer windows to build the depth.

Inter needs only big "cojones" to play all games in front to win
Cause Juventus is in a little crisis, and now is the best time to get advantage of it, the answer is not always on buying new players, Inter has a remarcable squand, even for the Champions League, not only for the SerieA

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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November 14, 2019, 12:36:55 PM
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I told you guys that this would be the two horses race. However, I think Inter wouldn't be able to keep the performance level high because of its lack of squad depth. Once injuries and fatigues hit the Inter team, no team could challenge Juventus.

Inter need one or two transfer windows to build the depth.

If they want to be in a title race till the end of the season they surely need to make transfers in the winder transfer window.
Another option is to be disqualified from the Champions League but I don't think that this would be something that the Inter fans might like.
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