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January 30, 2024, 11:00:17 AM
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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.
A difficult match can indeed be said to be a tough test. But as you said, even if AS Roma lose this match then it is normal. De Rossi hasn't been AS Roma's coach for long and he also hasn't been able to fully understand Mourinho's usual scheme for AS Roma. But so far De Rossi is doing a good job. And although the match against Inter Milan will be very difficult. But I might think that AS Roma can make a surprise against Inter Milan.

And AS Roma already have at least 3 wins with De Rossi.  That is against Verona, AL-Shabab and Salernitana. And the next match could also be another test that might be quite easy against Cagliari. After that it was a tough test against Inter Milan.

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January 30, 2024, 12:10:21 PM
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To me, honestly, it seemed like a match that wasn't exactly dominated, and rather a little difficult
and Salernitana isn't a strong team (just look at their position in the standings, after all) so I don't know, I'm still a little skeptical towards the new coach, he certainly wants to win but that's not enough.
Roma did not dominate the match and Salernitana created more opportunities than Roma in the first half. Roma luckily got a penalty and Dybala converted it to a first goal for them. A second goal seems to help Roma to secure 3 points but they let Salernitana found one goal and after that they even faced with an equalizer from Salernitana.

Roma won but it is not an impressive and dominating match from Roma but 3 points are good for them to move forwards with positive sentiment and continue to race with some other clubs.

You're right; I also think that Roma was fortunate to win the match because, in my opinion, Roma didn't play well. If Saranatana had been a formidable opponent, Roma would not have been able to win the match yesterday. Furthermore, I have never thought that Roma's performance has improved since they hired a new coach; they still need more players. Roma has played two games under the new coach, and those games haven't convinced me that they can play well again. To demonstrate that they have a capable coach and can lead them to a good spot in the league table, Roma should perform well and play a match against formidable opponents like Juventus or Inter.

Even though Roma moved up to the 7 or 6 spot and then back to the 5 spot, that doesn't convince me that Roma is good right now. If you look at yesterday's match, you'll also believe that Roma will have a very difficult time defeating a tough opponent because of the way the salartana take the match seriously.The game is really close at the end, and while I hope Roma can keep up its strong play, I also think they should add more players.

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January 30, 2024, 12:21:41 PM
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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.
The two matches that De Rossi has gone through with victory are certainly quite valuable capital for him in carrying out his duties as a professional coach in his career. Of course, it would be inappropriate for anyone to give him such an extraordinary target to take Roma one step further. But slowly let's see his progress until the end of the season and maybe he will be able to implement the right strategy for the Roma players so that the atmosphere becomes very comfortable for all parties so that the target will be achieved later.

Inter is a very strong team in Serie A, they are of course at a slightly different level to Roma, so logically Roma will have difficulty facing Inter's current strength.



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January 30, 2024, 12:30:53 PM
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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.
The Inter match is also important because both the players and the technical staff must be prepared in the best possible way in matches with a very high level of difficulty. Therefore, the Inter match will be a good match for De Rossi, not for criticism, but to see his preparation for big matches. Inter has built a very good squad both last year and this year and they are running from success to success. If De Rossi plays a superior game in that match, then he will deserve praise.

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January 30, 2024, 12:45:39 PM
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The Inter match is also important because both the players and the technical staff must be prepared in the best possible way in matches with a very high level of difficulty. Therefore, the Inter match will be a good match for De Rossi, not for criticism, but to see his preparation for big matches. Inter has built a very good squad both last year and this year and they are running from success to success. If De Rossi plays a superior game in that match, then he will deserve praise.

Yes, the real test for De Rossi when facing a strong team will happen soon. This is not an easy matter for De Rossi even though the team is currently quite solid, but looking at Inter's strength, of course, De Rossi will maximize the potential of his players.
It would be satisfying if De Rossi was able to bring Roma to a finish in the top 4 of the Serie A standings. The one who is very likely to be chased is Atalanta, they have enough points difference to catch up.









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January 30, 2024, 12:50:11 PM
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The Inter match is also important because both the players and the technical staff must be prepared in the best possible way in matches with a very high level of difficulty. Therefore, the Inter match will be a good match for De Rossi, not for criticism, but to see his preparation for big matches. Inter has built a very good squad both last year and this year and they are running from success to success. If De Rossi plays a superior game in that match, then he will deserve praise.
De Rossi's reputation will even increase rapidly if the AS Roma vs Inter Milan match results in a draw. So in this match De Rossi will have two advantages. If Roma wins then De Rossi will get a lot of praise and if AS Roma gets a draw then De Rossi will still be appreciated. And if AS Roma loses then De Rossi will still be forgiven and will not be blamed at all.  Cheesy

So the result of the AS Roma vs Inter Milan match will not be a pressure for De Rossi. Because even if AS Roma loses then everyone will understand that Inter Milan is a great team this season and it would be very natural for Roma to lose. And De Rossi is also still new as AS Roma coach so he still needs more adaptation. And everyone definitely understands that.

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January 30, 2024, 01:25:12 PM
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And AS Roma already have at least 3 wins with De Rossi.  That is against Verona, AL-Shabab and Salernitana. And the next match could also be another test that might be quite easy against Cagliari. After that it was a tough test against Inter Milan.
De Rossi's Test Not only from yesterday's three matches but De Rossi actually has to finish this season by bringing As Roma to finish in the Champions League or Europa Cup zone, we also haven't seen De Rossi's quality when As Roma meets big clubs like Inter Milan , Juventus and AC Milan, of course here you will see the quality of De Rossi...

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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.

You can measure how strong as roma when you are seeing it to face the strong club in the league. it's caused by the fact that if the match against strong club will be also revealing the true performance from as roma under the new coach. It makes sense when people were saying that if the match against the big club can be a sense reason to know whether that was a strong or weak club. Roma was always gaining the victories in the last matches, but it was against the weak team. How can we know how strong as roma if it was only winning against the small team like that? The strong opponent will be forcing as roma to give everything to win the game and that's it.
He was not wrong by saying like that. What he said totally makes sense. If roma will able to beat intermilan and i must say if it must be a candidate to qualify for the UCL next season. The different thing is going to happen if roma will be performing so badly.

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January 30, 2024, 01:57:45 PM
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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.
Although Roma's position is number five in the points table, there is a lot of difference between Roma's points and Inter Milan's points.  Juventus seem to be competing almost equally with Inter Milan so far. Inter Milan is performing consistently and Juve's performance is also noticeable. Inter Milan has 54 points and Juventus has 53 points, that is, there is only one point gap with the two teams, but Juventus has played one match more than Inter Milan. The most positive aspect for Inter Milan is that they have lost just one match this season and have drawn the other three matches and have picked up full points in 17 matches. Since Juventus has played one match more than Inter Milan, Inter Milan may increase the points gap with Juventus in the next match.

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January 30, 2024, 01:58:42 PM
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To be honest, I was quite doubtful that Roma would win the match against Salernitana last night and I finally had the courage to include this match in multibet. As a result, as we can see, Roma was able to steal full points in this away match and this also proves that De Rossi is a worthy coach to replace Mourinho.
It is too soon to say De Rossi is a good coach and a good choice for Roma. He only had 3 matches, won all 3 matches with Roma and one of them is a friendly match, two matches are against weak teams. He has good debut in Roma as a coach but he will need to prove his ability with more matches.

It is true that Roma only played against weak teams, but if we talk about H2H against Verona or Salernitana when they were still managed by Mourinho, the results were less than optimal and Roma often lost points. So why do I say De Rossi is a good coach for Roma, yes because of these small things and if even from small things De Rossi is not able to win, then there is no point in him replacing Mourinho. So maybe that's the only point I want to say and apart from that, everything has to be processed and there's no harm in giving trust to De Rossi.

And yes, Roma managed to score the first goal through the penalty spot and Dybala, who was appointed as the executor, did his job well. Roma was leading 0-1 but this was still not safe enough and right in the 66th minute Pellegrini scored Roma's second goal. I thought this two goal lead was enough to secure victory
The penalty is a gift for Roma after they were dominated by Salernitana in a first half. Without that lucky penalty and goal, honestly it's hard for Roma to win this match with what they shown in a first half. De Rossi has many things to do for improvement in Roma and he will have two play-off matches against Feyenoord in Europa League which will be actual big tests for him.

Talking about the play-off match against Feyenoord, maybe this could be the next benchmark for De Rossi because this is a different competition from Serie A and we know that if in the European league, Roma were still managed by Mourinho the results would still be good. But now we are talking about De Rossi who will continue Mourinho's legacy in this previous competition and we will see whether there will be any surprises waiting or not considering that Feyenoord has performed very well in the domestic league so far.

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January 30, 2024, 01:59:12 PM
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And AS Roma already have at least 3 wins with De Rossi.  That is against Verona, AL-Shabab and Salernitana. And the next match could also be another test that might be quite easy against Cagliari. After that it was a tough test against Inter Milan.
De Rossi's Test Not only from yesterday's three matches but De Rossi actually has to finish this season by bringing As Roma to finish in the Champions League or Europa Cup zone, we also haven't seen De Rossi's quality when As Roma meets big clubs like Inter Milan , Juventus and AC Milan, of course here you will see the quality of De Rossi...
It's obviously true. Roma has been signing him till the end of season and any remaining matches will always become his test in roma. People were over reacting him too early. Just because he won two matches and people praise him as a master class coach. It sounds very weird to hear that.
Roma probably didn't result what club wanted from mourinho and this might be a reason to signing him as a new coach but wait, he was only a few weeks in roma and the hard fixtures will come son. Well, im thinking roma has put a very big target for him at least to get one trophy this season.
It gives me vibes a borrow away. At least roma will give him chance till the end of season caused by the club had no choice other than recruit him which is having cheap fees to be recruited instead of extending mourinho's contract which was consuming a lot of resources owned by roma.
At least roma was slowly but surely creeping up the table which is good enough but who knows if fans will turn back to blame him when roma will get a lost in the upcoming game. Rossi just need to prepare his mentality for that moment to come in the future.

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January 30, 2024, 02:13:25 PM
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The Inter match is also important because both the players and the technical staff must be prepared in the best possible way in matches with a very high level of difficulty. Therefore, the Inter match will be a good match for De Rossi, not for criticism, but to see his preparation for big matches. Inter has built a very good squad both last year and this year and they are running from success to success. If De Rossi plays a superior game in that match, then he will deserve praise.

Yes, the real test for De Rossi when facing a strong team will happen soon. This is not an easy matter for De Rossi even though the team is currently quite solid, but looking at Inter's strength, of course, De Rossi will maximize the potential of his players.
It would be satisfying if De Rossi was able to bring Roma to a finish in the top 4 of the Serie A standings. The one who is very likely to be chased is Atalanta, they have enough points difference to catch up.
De Rossi must prepare for the toughest match for AS Roma. And maybe next week De Rossi can make a good test against Cagliari. So that they can be better prepared when facing Inter Milan. Currently AS Roma is ranked 5th and is 1 point different from Atalanta who is ranked 4th. And next week Atalanta has a difficult match, namely against Lazio and maybe this could make Atalanta lose points and give AS Roma the opportunity to move up to 4th place. but if that happens then AS Roma might have difficulty maintaining 4th place because the following week against Inter Milan will indeed be very difficult. And it is likely that Atalanta will collect points again in the match against Genoa. Well, the battle for 4th place looks like it will be very fierce this season.

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And AS Roma already have at least 3 wins with De Rossi.  That is against Verona, AL-Shabab and Salernitana. And the next match could also be another test that might be quite easy against Cagliari. After that it was a tough test against Inter Milan.
De Rossi's Test Not only from yesterday's three matches but De Rossi actually has to finish this season by bringing As Roma to finish in the Champions League or Europa Cup zone, we also haven't seen De Rossi's quality when As Roma meets big clubs like Inter Milan , Juventus and AC Milan, of course here you will see the quality of De Rossi...
Having spot into Champions League is not easy while I can't say impossible because Serie A is having reputation of wired results near the end of the season which bring surprises like currently we are having two teams settled for the top two spots and AC Milan having good hold on third spot, but they can slip with Atlanta, Roma, Lazio and Fiorentina are having good chance for the fourth spot even Napoli and Bologna are also in, but these four are teams to watch for the Champions League spot.

De Rossi is having not good reputation, but he can do something special which will help him for having better things for his and his team future two wins bring some positive change and their test case is ahead while they will host Inter Milan.

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There is a fact we can not deny, they are getting better results in two latest matches than previous matches with Mourinho. We also can not ignore another fact that in previous matches, Roma and Mourinho had to play against stronger clubs so losing points is not something strange. With two winnings, De Rossi and Roma can move onward with more confidence about themselves and they need to beat strong clubs to prove that they are ready for top four. Brilliant form is not important and the ultimate purpose is joining top four.

You will never find a top coach that would glorify a bad performance because of a good result unless it was a knockout game where all that counted was the win. It is the win that counts, but coaches want to see progress besides the results because they know that bad performances will give you good results in a very limited number of cases. Instead, coaches want reliable and stable performances because that is the recipe for long term success.

If you say we can't deny the fact that they got better results, true. But we can't deny the fact that they didn't play any better than before is also true. If you disagree and you are interested, let me know how exactly Roma performed better in the last two gams apart from the results and what makes you positive for the next games based on the last two games except for the results.

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January 30, 2024, 02:44:11 PM
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The opponent faced by AS Roma is still a weak team. 2 wins can be obtained from Verona and Salernitana. 2 weak teams that should be easily won by AS roma. salernitana is currently ranked at the bottom of the last rankings while verona is currently only ranked 16th, 2 levels from the degaradation zone.
These two matches should be a match to get full points for AS Roma because AS Roma is in need of more points to aim for a better position. And the match with Salernitana has been won by AS Roma so what AS Roma has to think about next is winning the match with Verona in order to stay in a position that is not too far from the top five. Because the competition for points in the middle of the Italian League is currently increasingly fierce and quite close with several teams.
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January 30, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
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The thing that Salernitana should be wary of is a draw for Roma because the previous meeting between the two teams could only be a draw. I think if Roma want to continue their winning streak then they have to ensure it with a landslide victory and if their defense is weak it will certainly be put to good use by Salernitana. I am happy that De Rossi's presence as Roma coach can provide a new color and his responsibilities as coach will certainly become heavier.

The real test has not yet started and im sure the big obstacle for roma is just coming soon. I think that we will be seeing roma to play worst against the big club. It's only 2 wins and people are starting to praise de rossi as a great coach who can be everything.  Cheesy

Im sure that people will be baffling again when roma will get another lose again. Roma was also struggling to beat salernitana and the club shall be thankful to the dybala caused by he was helping club to win the game throughout his penalty. Im not even seeing a special stats from roma.
Roma played like shit even though it has been quality compared to the salernitana. Im concerning this caused by roma's statistic is hurting my eyes. Salernitana has a better stat compared to the roma which is unbelievable.

Salerntana was not lucky enough caused by the referee was awarding roma a penalty that was also giving bad result to the salernitana. It was unnecessary foul from salernitana's player. That's bad for the club.
Salernitana can try to keep its current performance and i hope it will be lucky enough later.

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January 30, 2024, 03:16:31 PM
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The match against Inter Milan at home will be the biggest test for De Rossi because the rivalry between the two is quite prestigious and As Roma must win if they want to catch up in the standings. It feels a little difficult because Inter Milan are in good form at the moment and De Rossi will definitely have a hard time facing them.
It was a very large test and almost impossible to complete. How could you give the match against Inter as a test for De Rossi? I mean, even if Roma loses the match, it doesn't mean that De Rossi is unable to carry out his duties well because the opponent is Inter Milan, the strongest team in Serie A at the moment. Maybe we can use the match against Ac Milan or Atalanta as a test for De Rossi to show the development of the team he is coaching. Or at least the match against Feyenoord in the European league. I think it would be more appropriate to look at De Rossi's capacity as the new coach of As Roma.
This means how far De Rossi has prepared to face Inter Milan, who has performed well this season. Beating Inter Milan is certainly a very difficult mission to carry out, but it is not impossible for Roma to achieve victory when facing Inter Milan because in football anything can happen. De Rossi's challenge is not just to achieve victory over Inter, but he must be able to make Roma provide balanced resistance even though they know the team they are facing is very difficult to stop. Even though Roma lost to Inter Milan, they had to lose in an honorable way. This means that losing by a narrow score is still considered normal, but if Roma suffers a big defeat it would be very embarrassing, this is what is meant by the test for De Rossi.

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De Rossi is having not good reputation, but he can do something special which will help him for having better things for his and his team future two wins bring some positive change and their test case is ahead while they will host Inter Milan.

De Rossi is a coach who still doesn't have much experience as a coach. Of course it is normal for us to ask, is he worthy of being AS Roma coach? the same goes for other new coaches such as Pirlo, Seedorf, Gattuso etc. So far, the one who has the potential to become a good coach is Simone Inzaghi, while his brother Filippo Inzaghi is also having difficulties. Roma was quite brave in their decision to make De Rossi the interim coach, but if he succeeds in improving Roma's position by the end of the season, maybe De Rossi will start to have confidence in being the coach of a Serie A team.

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January 30, 2024, 03:59:25 PM
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And AS Roma already have at least 3 wins with De Rossi.  That is against Verona, AL-Shabab and Salernitana. And the next match could also be another test that might be quite easy against Cagliari. After that it was a tough test against Inter Milan.
De Rossi's Test Not only from yesterday's three matches but De Rossi actually has to finish this season by bringing As Roma to finish in the Champions League or Europa Cup zone, we also haven't seen De Rossi's quality when As Roma meets big clubs like Inter Milan , Juventus and AC Milan, of course here you will see the quality of De Rossi...
Yes,at the moment we can't judge De Rossi too deeply. The reason is, the AS Roma match coached by De Rossi did not show any significant differences. The reason is, even though AS Roma plays against clubs ranked below them, AS Roma often concedes goals.
So, it can be concluded that currently De Rossi's work is not very visible at AS Roma. The reason is, the last three clubs that AS Roma played against clearly have quality players under their tutelage. So the change of AS Roma coach from Jose Mourinho to De Rossi at this stage of development is not very clear.

But even so, this is still a good start for De Rossi to begin his steps at AS Roma as a new coach. Because if the first step is done well, it could be that the second step will also be good. Then maybe in the next match it will most likely not be difficult for De Rossi and his team (AS Roma) to win the match. The reason is, the ranking of their opponent (Cagliari) is still below AS Roma. But it is the match after against Cagliari that will be very tense and will be a good object of assessment for De Rossi as the new coach of AS Roma.

Because the opponent he will face is the top of the standings, namely Inter Milan. To be honest, I don't have too high hopes for De Rossi and AS Roma. It's enough to hold a draw or not lose big to Inter. If De Rossi and AS Roma can do this, I think it will be good. And regarding UCL tickets or the European Cup, that is a definite goal that De Rossi must pursue.

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January 30, 2024, 04:02:04 PM
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De Rossi is having not good reputation, but he can do something special which will help him for having better things for his and his team future two wins bring some positive change and their test case is ahead while they will host Inter Milan.
He is a new coach and actually his reputation in my opinion is not a problem because indeed when talking about reputation until now we still can't talk much because he is a new coach, it's just that it's not about reputation issues but the confidence we have in him.

He is a new coach whose best previous experience is in Serie C with SPAL so it will take time for De Rosi to provide evidence because with what he showed at SPAL it was not a good thing but indeed for now we cannot discuss that as a benchmark because after all we only have to see now whether he is able to answer the trust or not.

If indeed Roma's performance is getting worse then he must be prepared to be blamed because his performance cannot bring Roma to a better direction but if his condition is stagnant or even better it clearly must remain appreciated because Management's decision to bring De Rosi is the right decision.

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