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May 17, 2024, 08:29:31 PM
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Everyone seem to be engaged with the news of the sack of Max Allegri that is why no one is paying attention to the bloodless battle between Fiorentina and Napoli, an encounter that will influence who qualify for the conference league next season. The drama in this match is that Napoli, who is playing at away, scored first before at the 8th minutes and everyone was shocked because they have not been doing so great this season. But before the half time, Fiorentina equalized and scored again to make it two goals to one. Second half Napoli opened the scoring again to make the match two goals apiece which the match still stands up to the 80th minutes. This is an interesting match indeed and Napoli played beyond expectations.

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May 17, 2024, 08:38:40 PM
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To be honest, I'm surprised Fiorentina could win in the first half... I don't watch this match, but I thought Napoli would take the three points, because Fiorentina have the final of the Conference League soon... I thought that this match doesn't mean anything for them, because they are in the Conference League zone anyway...
It is no longer strange if Napoli lose because they have never won for 5x matches only able to collect 3 points from 5x matches this is a bad season so I don't dare to bet on Napoli because the results will definitely be disappointing.

While Fiorentina to prepare for the Conference League final is still long and they can still win for Serie A matches even though this is not something important, but I feel Fiorentina getting points is important for them to add confidence in the final later.

Edit: Napoli equalize to 2-2 as this match will be interesting. Cheesy
Napoli was able to equalize the second goal to give them of of winning or drawing the match if they don't male any mistake that will lead to Fiorentina scoring them the third goal. Napoli was lucky that Belotti foul that was given to Fiorentina when he was bought down inside Napoli box was canceled by the referee, because it was a minor contact.

However, Fiorentina is pressuring to see how they can gain all three points in this match but Napoli will not let that happen. Napoli missed some good chances, and they are suffering for it now. It is 90 minutes and 5 minutes extra time have been added. It is still 2-2.

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May 17, 2024, 08:48:35 PM
Last edit: May 19, 2024, 08:59:05 PM by tusandii
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With their last five matches, Juventus couldn't win, they got a draw with their last five matches and maybe that's what looks like Juventus' performance is not good this season, but what they have done is definitely the best because with those who are currently there. even in the top four it's not too bad. The news about Massimiliano Allegri's dismissal from Juventus may indeed be due to Juventus' performance this season being one of the reasons.

Indeed, it feels like this dismissal was too quick, because of course they have to find a replacement and of course they need time to adapt to each other to create chemistry so they can play their best game. However, it is reported that Juventus has made Thiago Motta their prospective coach.
When Juventus wants to realize how important Massimiliano Allegri is and that he gave his best last season, they will definitely not fire the coach because until now Juventus has still been successful in getting tickets to compete in the Champions League in the coming season even though they failed to win the title series A but that is not a failure and Juventus will not take this issue seriously because there is still the next season to prove it.

Some people or fans will say that it is a bad thing or a failure for Juventus but in my opinion the aim of this season is to restore the confidence of the Juventus players after failing last season and also failing due to violations to compete in the European conference league.
We can just see what happens in the next season and in my opinion Massimiliano Allegri will not be fired and Juventus will be able to dominate Serie A.

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May 17, 2024, 09:01:25 PM
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Current position:
Atalanta 0 - 1 Juventus
Finally Juventus will finish the league with a trophy and I believe this has been Allegri's plan, maybe that was why he lost interest in finishing as second or third in Seria A. Who knows maybe they will start winning their next matcj to make sure that they go to UCL next season.
Ah yeah, finally Juventus could get 1 trophy this season. The Italian Cup may not be as impressive as the main Serie A, but at least it wouldn't be good for them not to miss another trophy like before, right? it's just that it might not be that special to them. but whatever it is, congratulations to Juventus, they deserve this.

However, Fiorentina is pressuring to see how they can gain all three points in this match but Napoli will not let that happen. Napoli missed some good chances, and they are suffering for it now. It is 90 minutes and 5 minutes extra time have been added. It is still 2-2.
The result of full time, draw match. Again, Napoli was not able took over the top position because they were only able to get a draw with Fiorentina, which incidentally is positioned exactly above Napoli. It's quite unfortunate that Napoli were able to take the lead in the first place, even though their performance was quite good and significant at the start of the match. However, they actually fell behind after the 40th minute. They dropped quite a bit. Luckily, in the end, they were able to equalize the position at 2-2 at the end of the match.

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The result of full time, draw match. Again, Napoli was not able took over the top position because they were only able to get a draw with Fiorentina, which incidentally is positioned exactly above Napoli. It's quite unfortunate that Napoli were able to take the lead in the first place, even though their performance was quite good and significant at the start of the match. However, they actually fell behind after the 40th minute. They dropped quite a bit. Luckily, in the end, they were able to equalize the position at 2-2 at the end of the match.
Personally I see the recent results from Napoli as disappointing even if it feels like the result of today is better than a loss but then I had expected much more from Napoli because I had known and seen them to be an elite or a top team in the Italian league after their brilliance that was displayed last week but then it's quite unfortunate that this season they have been really unable to replicate such brilliance again in their results and their total performance.

Napoli would have been a better team if they were able to maintain that form and aswell put up some levels of consistency in their performance aswell because it's one of the basis for their brilliance at the end of the season, teams such as fiorentina isn't such that Napoli would even be struggling to win going by their form and strength earlier this season before their decline which has led to their current form a s they are unable to finish even at a good position on the table which I see as very sad  and discouraging, they couldn't even win this game to be able to probably have a chance to displacing fiorentina that's slightly above them.

I'm hoping that by next season Napoli will do better but then it's going to be even difficult because they will not be having the links of osimhen who has been a very vital force to their success last season and earlier this season before they gave him a reason not to desire playing any further in the team, and getting a replacement for him is definitely going to be another tough thing they are going to be able to do.

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May 17, 2024, 09:21:43 PM
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Only 2-2 for Fiorentina and Napoli.
Another disappointing resul for Napoli.

They are now 9th in the leaderboard and if Torino will win tomorrow they will be in 10th position and so, out from the Eurocaps almost for sure.

What an incredible result after winning the league the past year.

At the moment we have

Inter Milan Bologna Jvuentus and Atalanta in Chamspion League
Roma In Europa League

Fiorentinca can end also in Europa League if they will win the Conference cup

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May 17, 2024, 09:26:42 PM
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To be honest, I'm surprised Fiorentina could win in the first half... I don't watch this match, but I thought Napoli would take the three points, because Fiorentina have the final of the Conference League soon... I thought that this match doesn't mean anything for them, because they are in the Conference League zone anyway...
The match ended in a draw with a score of 2-2, overall this was a fair result for both teams. Regarding the course of the match, I think Napoli was lucky enough to survive today's defeat, where statistically Fiorentina looked more threatening than Napoli. Napoli efforts to finish in the European zone are now closed, there is only one match remaining ahead, and Napoli must try to maintain its position from the pursuit of Torino.

Even though Fiorentina also failed to reach the European zone through Serie A, they have the opportunity to play in the European League next season if they succeed in winning the Confederation League trophy this season. Napoli, who have the status of defending champions this season, have slumped quite badly, for almost the entire season they have never consistently won, there is nothing to be proud of about them this season. Once again, Napoli were still lucky to finish in the top 10 of the standings.

On the other hand, towards the end of the season, there was tighter competition in the Champions League and Europa League zones, in the fight for tickets for next season involving Atalanta, Roma and Lazio. Therefore, I think Serie A will still be interesting to follow even though Inter have confirmed themselves as champions this season.

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May 17, 2024, 09:28:12 PM
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Juventus and Allegri have confirmed that they will end their partnership at the end of this season, although Allegri managed to lead Juventus to win the Coppa Italia championship this season but indeed it does not change Juventus desire to make changes next season, currently there are several coaches who have indeed been linked with Juventus and reportedly Thiago Motta is a strong candidate to become Juventus coach next season,  Currently there have been rumors that Juventus and Thiago Motta have reached an agreement to work together for 3 seasons, although it is still only a rumour but I think it is very likely that this will happen because of Motta contract which will expire at the end of this season and there seems to be no sign if Thiago Motta will extend his contract with Bologna.

Currently Juventus is one of the right options for Thiago Motta to improve his coaching career and I think when later he can bring Juventus to be even better then it is not impossible Thiago Motta can enter the ranks of the best coaches available today, Thiago Motta can be said to be the most appropriate option for Juventus after his ability to coach Bologna this season,
Zidane?, does anyone still expect him to coach a club, after all the clubs interested in signing him as a coach he has turned down and I think for the time being Zidane still wants to spend his time with his wife, so he no longer has time to go back to coaching a football club Grin.
This news is very accurate as there have been many strong rumors that Allegri will part ways with Juventus at the end of this season. Juventus has given Allegri time to bring Juventus to become champions in Serie A, but this season Allegri still failed to bring Juventus to the Scudetto. Of course, the right step is to look for a new coach who has good experience in formulating tactics for next season. Fans are certainly very happy after Juventus won the Italian Cup trophy, but that is not enough to prove the best quality of Allegri's performance this season.

AC Milan is also reported to be ready to part ways with Pioli but there is no accurate information regarding this issue. So if AC Milan and Juventus are officially looking for new coaches next season, of course it will be quite interesting to watch the rise of these two big teams in Serie A or the Champions League. Napoli is also the same, they will look for a new coach because the Napoli owner is not satisfied with Calzona performance as he failed to bring change to Napoli this season.

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May 17, 2024, 10:39:58 PM
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I loved the fact that fiorentina was playing from home a d though they were led by Napoli in the early minutes of the game, they made sure they got back the lead in before the end of the first half a d I think that git Napoli on their toes and they had to sit up because the victory they taught were insight was about to elude them if they should allow their back stay long enough on the floor but then they later tried their best by the second half.

Although Napoli didn't get to win but had to share points by the end of the game, they actually tried to claim dominance in the second half even if they weren't the host they had the only goal that was scored in the second half that got them equalizing at the end of the second half of the game and they were able to get a point extra but it really didn't get them much as they are still some point behind their host, fiorentina which isn't good enough for the kind of progress we were hoping they will be able to achieve by the end of the season after the last few fixtures they have remaining.

Statistically , fiorentina were able to have more of the possessive dominance with the ball but it felt like Napoli was utilizing chance much more because they had the statistics with attempts and goal on target so it was a game that got some kind of balance centered around few area of strength probably the host advantage got the host having the possession the most but the visitor seeking victory bwere just looking for a means to utilize every opportunity thst avails it self.

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May 17, 2024, 10:47:33 PM
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Serie A is almost done and we don't have many interesting fights but tomorrow will be a cruclial day for the relegation zone with 2 games.

Monza - Frosinone
Udinese - Empoli

Both Frosinone and Empoli needs 3 poins or they will probably be relegated to Serie B with Salernitata and Sassuolo.

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May 17, 2024, 11:01:47 PM
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Serie A is almost done and we don't have many interesting fights but tomorrow will be a cruclial day for the relegation zone with 2 games.

Monza - Frosinone
Udinese - Empoli

Both Frosinone and Empoli needs 3 poins or they will probably be relegated to Serie B with Salernitata and Sassuolo.

Udinese vs Empoli is the most interesting because both teams are not yet safe and in this match I think Udinese has a bigger chance of getting 3 points, what is clear is that Udinese has 2 easy matches ahead including this one, while Empoli is in a difficult situation after this match they will face AS Roma so Empoli might be among the 3 teams that will be relegated.

Monza vs Frosinone, this match is only important for Frosinone because whatever the result of this match has no impact on Monza they are already in the safe zone with 45 points, well will Monza help Frosinone by giving them easy points? I wouldn't be surprised if Frosinone win but in the 38th match they have to go through another challenge because Udinese is also waiting for them, at least 5 teams are struggling in the relegation zone.

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May 17, 2024, 11:03:48 PM
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Juventus and Allegri have confirmed that they will end their partnership at the end of this season, although Allegri managed to lead Juventus to win the Coppa Italia championship this season but indeed it does not change Juventus desire to make changes next season, currently there are several coaches who have indeed been linked with Juventus and reportedly Thiago Motta is a strong candidate to become Juventus coach next season,  Currently there have been rumors that Juventus and Thiago Motta have reached an agreement to work together for 3 seasons, although it is still only a rumour but I think it is very likely that this will happen because of Motta contract which will expire at the end of this season and there seems to be no sign if Thiago Motta will extend his contract with Bologna.

Currently Juventus is one of the right options for Thiago Motta to improve his coaching career and I think when later he can bring Juventus to be even better then it is not impossible Thiago Motta can enter the ranks of the best coaches available today, Thiago Motta can be said to be the most appropriate option for Juventus after his ability to coach Bologna this season,
Zidane?, does anyone still expect him to coach a club, after all the clubs interested in signing him as a coach he has turned down and I think for the time being Zidane still wants to spend his time with his wife, so he no longer has time to go back to coaching a football club Grin.

An era has ended, starting in 2014, reuniting in 2021, and ending with the Italian Cup. I hope Max Allegri walks away with his head held high as one of the most successful coaches in Juventus history. During his two spells with the club, Allegri won five Scudettos, five Coppa Italy, and finished runner-up in the Champions League twice. Anyway, he helped the team continue to participate in the Champions League next season. Juventus is almost certain to appoint coach Thiago Motta to replace Allegri. Motta emerged when he led Bologna to qualify for the 2024-2025 Champions League, the first time in this club's history. The sad thing here is why Juventus leadership decided to fire Allegri right away instead of waiting until the end of the season. Allegri's career at Juventus ended in pain and humiliation.

You mentioned the legendary Zidane. Oh, it would be a miracle if any club could invite him back as a coach. I can only believe that he will return when he sits in the hot seat of the French national team.

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May 17, 2024, 11:07:36 PM
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This news is very accurate as there have been many strong rumors that Allegri will part ways with Juventus at the end of this season. Juventus has given Allegri time to bring Juventus to become champions in Serie A, but this season Allegri still failed to bring Juventus to the Scudetto. Of course, the right step is to look for a new coach who has good experience in formulating tactics for next season. Fans are certainly very happy after Juventus won the Italian Cup trophy, but that is not enough to prove the best quality of Allegri's performance this season.
It's officially ended.
Allegri is no longer in Juventus. It is planned to be the end of this season, but it has ended and Allegri has been officially sacked, even after the final of Italian Cup. And good bye words are there. I thought that it will be the end of this season, but it is earlier.


Source: Juventus is left without a coach after sacking Allegri

And even Juventus has officially announced it:
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OFFICIAL | MASSIMILIANO ALLEGRI NO LONGER JUVENTUS COACH
Juventus announces that it has relieved Massimiliano Allegri of his position as head coach of the men's first team.
Source: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/official-massimiliano-allegri-no-longer-juventus-coach

Statistically , fiorentina were able to have more of the possessive dominance with the ball but it felt like Napoli was utilizing chance much more because they had the statistics with attempts and goal on target so it was a game that got some kind of balance centered around few area of strength probably the host advantage got the host having the possession the most but the visitor seeking victory bwere just looking for a means to utilize every opportunity thst avails it self.
Indeed, Fiorentina was quite dominating the game and even made Napoli feel very pressured, especially as Napoli fell further behind after two goals occurred at almost the same time. Here, we might initially think that Fiorentina will definitely win. However, in the second half, Napoli tried even harder until they were finally able to equalize the position. But no matter what, their position still hasn't changed.

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May 17, 2024, 11:11:47 PM
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This news is very accurate as there have been many strong rumors that Allegri will part ways with Juventus at the end of this season. Juventus has given Allegri time to bring Juventus to become champions in Serie A, but this season Allegri still failed to bring Juventus to the Scudetto. Of course, the right step is to look for a new coach who has good experience in formulating tactics for next season. Fans are certainly very happy after Juventus won the Italian Cup trophy, but that is not enough to prove the best quality of Allegri's performance this season.

AC Milan is also reported to be ready to part ways with Pioli but there is no accurate information regarding this issue. So if AC Milan and Juventus are officially looking for new coaches next season, of course it will be quite interesting to watch the rise of these two big teams in Serie A or the Champions League. Napoli is also the same, they will look for a new coach because the Napoli owner is not satisfied with Calzona performance as he failed to bring change to Napoli this season.

But what an end this was between Allegri and Juventus Turin. I have only read some of the news superficially, didn't really look into it, but from what I have heard they fired him (or are about to fire him) because he messed up on the day when they won the Coppa Italial. He completely freaked out and destroyed stuff inside the stadium or something and insulted one of the Juventus official? Cheesy Seems Juventus said that the behavior of Allegri doesn't align with club values. The guy must have gone rogue or something. I'd like to understand what his reasons were for his actions. But it shows that there has probably been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that nobody heard of and now that he won this title, he let it all out.
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Atalanta's best performance since the Italian Serie A saw them reach the UEFA Europa League final this season. Moreover, Atalanta is currently in the 5th position in the points table in the Italian league and their points and good performances are currently passing through their games. However, as they currently have 63 points, they must play well and win the next few matches to qualify for the Champions League. Since Roma are in the 6th position, Atalanta will have to be tougher or else Roma can compete with them and qualify for the Champions League. In that case, since there are still more or less 3 points between the two teams, Atalanta will definitely never let Roma go up, but Atalanta will compete with Juventus with their strong performances to take their place. Atalanta were in a good position last season and this season they have also performed well and managed to enter the finals of the Europa League.

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But what an end this was between Allegri and Juventus Turin. I have only read some of the news superficially, didn't really look into it, but from what I have heard they fired him (or are about to fire him) because he messed up on the day when they won the Coppa Italial. He completely freaked out and destroyed stuff inside the stadium or something and insulted one of the Juventus official? Cheesy Seems Juventus said that the behavior of Allegri doesn't align with club values. The guy must have gone rogue or something. I'd like to understand what his reasons were for his actions. But it shows that there has probably been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that nobody heard of and now that he won this title, he let it all out.
Juventus have many big chaotic changes in the last three seasons and I am sure last 36 months in Juventus are not comfortable time for Max Allegri. He in reality managed to help Juventus to complete this season in top four, and the club will participate in Champions League next season. It is a success and that is different than what's happening with Manchester United and Ten Hag.

The last season, Juventus would have been qualified for Champions League spot too if they had not gotten a punishment from the FIGC. Many things can not control by Max Allegri as a coach but media and Juventus do things to force people believe that all bad results in Juventus are responsible by only Max Allegri.

Explained: Why Juventus have been docked 10 points by the Italian Football Federation.

I believe that years later, people will return and consider the second era of Max Allegri in Juventus with a different stance than now.
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May 18, 2024, 04:25:40 AM
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It's officially ended.
Allegri is no longer in Juventus. It is planned to be the end of this season, but it has ended and Allegri has been officially sacked, even after the final of Italian Cup. And good bye words are there. I thought that it will be the end of this season, but it is earlier.


Source: Juventus is left without a coach after sacking Allegri

And even Juventus has officially announced it:
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OFFICIAL | MASSIMILIANO ALLEGRI NO LONGER JUVENTUS COACH
Juventus announces that it has relieved Massimiliano Allegri of his position as head coach of the men's first team.
Source: https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/official-massimiliano-allegri-no-longer-juventus-coach
Yes, there are only two matches left, but Juventus does not intend to wait until the two matches are finished before severing its relationship with the coach, and his position will be temporarily replaced by Paolo Montero, before the club officially announces their new coach, and because two matches is not so important for Juventus so this change should not have any impact.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1791496299264516527

Statistically , fiorentina were able to have more of the possessive dominance with the ball but it felt like Napoli was utilizing chance much more because they had the statistics with attempts and goal on target so it was a game that got some kind of balance centered around few area of strength probably the host advantage got the host having the possession the most but the visitor seeking victory bwere just looking for a means to utilize every opportunity thst avails it self.
Indeed, Fiorentina was quite dominating the game and even made Napoli feel very pressured, especially as Napoli fell further behind after two goals occurred at almost the same time. Here, we might initially think that Fiorentina will definitely win. However, in the second half, Napoli tried even harder until they were finally able to equalize the position. But no matter what, their position still hasn't changed.
Fiorentina controlled the ball, but Napoli had quite a lot of chances but their problem this season is how weak they are in finishing so it is not surprising that in the end Fiorentina was able to lead 2-1 before finally Khvicha Kvaratskhelia scored the second goal for Napoli to get 1 point, it was sad to see Napoli who were only in the middle of the standings and where they have so far only managed to win 13 times and that is very low for a defending champion team.

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Yes, there are only two matches left, but Juventus does not intend to wait until the two matches are finished before severing its relationship with the coach, and his position will be temporarily replaced by Paolo Montero, before the club officially announces their new coach, and because two matches is not so important for Juventus so this change should not have any impact.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1791496299264516527
Juventus saw that the season is already completed for them with Coppa Italia cup and in Serie A, they will be one of representative of Serie A in Champions League. With remaining match, they won't have too clear target to achieve and announce to terminate their contract with Max Allegri can help them to clean rumor about the coach position and future of Max Allegri in Turin.

There is no information on a next coach of Juventus but I hope they will pick a good coach for a next season and will not look at this big decision with regret. Generally, Max Allegri did good management for Juventus during one of most chaotic period in the club last two decades since Calciopoli 2006.
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surprising result at the end of the first half between Atalanta and Juvenuts if we consider the form of the two teams.

Juventus are ahead and Atalanta have done nothing so far to deserve the draw.

Last 45 minutes just started, we'll see if Allegri manages to win the last trophy with Juventus before the now certain farewell
The farewell has now been decided, he is fired. His behavior in the cup game was probably the last action, he is said to have continued to behave badly after the game and then it was immediately published that they no longer want to work with Alegri from now on. Alegri is also said to have insulted and threatened a Tuttosport employees. For me this is very strange, he wins an important title in italy and still behaves so badly in this game... it almost looks like he planned it. Juventus can now go into the next season with a new coach and the champions league to build on old successes.

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According to news circulating, Juventus fired Allegri early because he was suspected of showing bad behavior towards club management. For the time being, the coaching chair has been temporarily given to Paolo Montero until he finds an official figure to coach the Old Lady next season. Thus ended the speculation regarding Allegri's future.

Juventus seems serious about approaching Thiago Motta but it seems he is still tied to Bologna. Motta is a good coach but Zidane seems more suitable to be Allegri's successor.
So, does Zidane want to coach the Old Lady next season? Because currently there are many rumors about changing coaches at several football clubs, including Juventus itself. And in my opinion, firing a coach because of bad behavior towards club management is a very natural thing to happen because the club has considered this as a loss for them if they continue next season. Because everyone has seen how Juventus' early season performance was so impressive that in the end Juventus had to drop to the top four after Bologna took over the top three with the same number of points.

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