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August 23, 2015, 11:53:49 AM
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Hello,
today I like to show you something about katerniko1.

Let me first descirbe the situation:
I'm a Mod on the site Crypto-Games.net and we recently celebrated our first anniversary.
Doing so, we had some little events, like quizzes and we did some tips to users who shared their opinion about the site on social media/this forum.
It was a good day all in all and one of the users who participated was called katerniko



He recieved several tips (around 8 i think, all of 80k satochi), some of them for winning a quiz round.
Now we had another round of trivia, and this happened:



We denied him the 80k satochi reward and he got quiet. Only message after that was a short bye.
Thinking of nothing bad, a new post popped up in our thread. It was the following:

bribe guys to write a good comment here be carefull!
scam site alert!
regards.
-Katerniko1

It was followed by a little discussion you can see here.
As a result, Adzino left this neutral feedback on katerniko1's trust page:

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His reviews should not be trusted! Will strike back with a negative review if something goes against his favor or if caught cheating.

Now this happened: seconds later, Adzino recieved a negative trust from katerniko1 (he already foresaw this in his comment):

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this guy needs to be taken down together with his scam site Crypto-Games.net

Here I stepped in and left the following neutral comment:

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Left negative feedback in order to retaliate the neutral comment adzino left here. Also he is badmouthing crypto-games.net as scam without any proof or reason. 
I wouldn't trust this users ratings to a single bit, as he seems to use them more like a weapon than leaving honest opinion/feedback

Same situation again, seconds later, a negative feedback also was hitting me:

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part of Crypto-Games.net gambling scam site

I once again left a comment on the users profile, informing about what happened:

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Left another unreasoned negative trust following my last neutral comment. 
At this point, he's just using the trust system to get back at anyone who points out his misdoings.
Or, to quote himself: "trust abuser stay away!"

And got another negative as a result:

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spaming my trust 2-3 times trust abuser ! (take him down) :)

That being said to the current situation,

As far as I know trust isn't moderated and there is probably nothing I can do about how this guy (ab)uses the trust system to get back at anyone who does something against his will,
still I wanted to show you how even some Senior Members are not abled to handle the trust system in the way I think it's intended to be used.
Thank you for your attention and I really would like to read some other users opinion on this situation / the way some people handle the trust system.
Greetings,
Lutpin

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August 23, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
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Trust is not moderated. His trust won't affect your trust score. So just ignore it.

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August 23, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
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Trust is not moderated. His trust won't affect your trust score. So just ignore it.

I know it won't affect my score, but I tend to look up how this score came up.
His feedback is not trusted, but so are all my positive trusts.
At least, I wanted to show this to everyone.

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August 23, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
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man you guys just love drama
also, he left -ve trust because he doesnt trust you, which is the point of the trust system. adzino left feedback in retaliation, which has nothing to do with trust. thats more abuse-y imo. even if you make the argument the feedback is neutral, it explicitly states: "do not trust;" might as well be negative. also, its spelled satoshi, not satochi. also, why do you care? hes no on default  nor is he on the trust list of anyone on default afaik.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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The only thing you could do is if he keeps spamming with negative trust ratings, not long ago i read that he could get banned or at least his ratings would get deleted if he were to spam too much of them to the same user without any meaning but im not sure about this.

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August 23, 2015, 08:11:56 PM
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hello my new best friend. Smiley
i just want to say thank you for making me famous in meta section.
we're getting better and better one day who knows we might even have party together.
regards.
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-Edit:
he sent me a pm where he wants me to remove trust.
even tho that should be bannable everyone can put his own trust to anyone especially as im not a default and he is spamming my trust (basicly half of their mods) with some negative on my profile at 1st i just pointed out on their thread that i dont trust them and that i think that site is a scam and they responded with spamming my trust rating so i did exactly what i did in their thread and gave them red flag so everyone can see that they are eventually going in scam mode Smiley
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August 23, 2015, 08:49:27 PM
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hello my new best friend. Smiley
i just want to say thank you for making me famous in meta section.
we're getting better and better one day who knows we might even have party together.
regards.
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he sent me a pm where he wants me to remove trust.
even tho that should be bannable everyone can put his own trust to anyone especially as im not a default and he is spamming my trust (basicly half of their mods) with some negative on my profile at 1st i just pointed out on their thread that i dont trust them and that i think that site is a scam and they responded with spamming my trust rating so i did exactly what i did in their thread and gave them red flag so everyone can see that they are eventually going in scam mode Smiley

I'm supposed to contact you first before opening a thread.
Besides, you're the one who left negative, not we.
"that they are eventually going in scam mode" - I don't even have to say sth. to this, as your "scam site crypto-games.net" it's completely unreasoned and you got no evidence/reference whatsoever.
You're starting this fuss to damage our reputation over 80k satochi, that's all.

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hello my new best friend. Smiley
i just want to say thank you for making me famous in meta section.
we're getting better and better one day who knows we might even have party together.
regards.
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he sent me a pm where he wants me to remove trust.
even tho that should be bannable everyone can put his own trust to anyone especially as im not a default and he is spamming my trust (basicly half of their mods) with some negative on my profile at 1st i just pointed out on their thread that i dont trust them and that i think that site is a scam and they responded with spamming my trust rating so i did exactly what i did in their thread and gave them red flag so everyone can see that they are eventually going in scam mode Smiley

I'm supposed to contact you first before opening a thread.
Besides, you're the one who left negative, not we.
"that they are eventually going in scam mode" - I don't even have to say sth. to this, as your "scam site crypto-games.net" it's completely unreasoned and you got no evidence/reference whatsoever.
You're starting this fuss to damage our reputation over 80k satochi, that's all.
i see you havent read the post at all Smiley
as i said i just wrote my post..
at first i just stated on your thread and u started giving trusts so i just did same as i did on your crypto games thread and put it on trust as everyone can see it not just on your thread.
if you didnt do that it would all stay just on your thread and nothing else.
regards.
-Katerniko1
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