In case it's relevant. I can add that I was sent the wrong product which I purchased on amazon by a sender this January. In my case, it was a 9$ product, so it wasn't very expensive (it was a case for a tablet, when they should have sent a case for a phone), in any case, what happened is that I wrote to them and they sent me the right case. I asked them to send me some sort of shipping label. They said "we don't do that, just send it back to me at your own expense and we'll reimburse you".
I write this just to say that I don't think it's true that amazon always sends you a label. I was not sent a label in this case.
Even though Amazon did not give you a label, you would have had to buy one yourself (or maybe you just bought a stamp if it only was worth $9 and was small in size), but the point is that postage needed to be purchased. Regardless, this does not match turtle's story that he was told to return the coin in it's original packaging.
For the packaging that a $1,300 gold coin is going to come in, an actual shipping label (for a parcel) is going to have to be used (as opposed to a stamp) if sending via USPS.
Even in the
extremely unlikely event that a tracking number is 100% unavailable for the shipment of the coin back to Amazon, there would be some kind of
other documentation that Amazon actually received the coin....something on his Amazon account, an email confirming this fact, anything.
I told him (via PM) that I would reevaluate my rating if he could provide some evidence that he returned the coin:
As I said in my trust rating, if you can provide evidence that you actually returned the coin then I will reevaluate my rating.
However I am doubtful that he has
any evidence that it was returned because I have doubts that it was returned. Part of my basis for this speculation is based on the below PM that I received from him (I will be more then willing to admit that I am wrong if evidence shows that I am):(empathizes mine)
The codes are stolen, it doesn't matter if I returned it or not (Even though I did in fact return it). The matter is between me and amazon if I kept it, not me and djvoodoo. I have PROVED he sent me fraudulent payment. If he wants reimbursement he has to go to the person he got the codes from.
What country are you in? The laws here in the USA clearly dictate these things, yet you don't understand.
I didn't pay for shipping, amazon has the tracking #
Thank you again for accusing me without evidence, and for intruding on my affairs. This is not in the spirit of cryptocurrency.
And please stop telling me to scam myself, it's pissing me off. If I sent him bitcoins for this I would have scammed myself like an idiot.
He also has zero basis for complaining about being banned because he was warned about bumping all the "QS" threads with essentially the same statement. This similar message was repeated multiple times upon my PM conversation with him. He was also warned by people replying to his spammy bumps (although it is possible that he was already banned by then).
You are just embarrassing yourself, are making yourself look poorly and will likely end up getting yourself banned for spamming the same message across what is now probably 10+ threads.
You are welcome to voice your opinion, however it is probably best to keep it to one thread.
I do however believe that the most likely resolution to this incident is that turtle will end up paying DjVoodoo the BTC that he originally agreed to pay him upon the sale of the gold coin.
The reason why I believe that turtlehurricane is a selective scammer is because of what happened in
this thread.
It appears that turtlehurricane told AnonCard (who is only a Junior Member with zero reputation), that all he needs is the PayPal MyCash code, and a BTC address to send to in order for AnonCard to sell the card to turtlehurricane according to
this screenshot. Then according to
this screenshot, turtlehurricane even told AnonCard that he would send the BTC in the morning.
Once AnonCard opened the scam accusation, turtlehurricane posted that the reason he did not send the BTC was because AnonCard was unable to produce receipts for the card. Turtlehurricane also posted images of PM's from AnonCard saying that he was unable to produce receipts, which implies that he asked for them (despite that in the above PM he said that
all he needs is the code)
The only reason I didn't send it yet is because "AnonCard" refused to give me a receipt. I feel like an idiot for loading the card without a receipt, since that puts me at risk of being scammed. I wanted to wait a little while to make sure the funds did not disappear.
And for the record, here is him refusing a receipt. It gave me a very bad feeling. It is extremely unusual for a customer not to have a receipt and usually indicates fraud.
Please post your Bitcoin address here and I will send the Bitcoins. In the future please get receipts, you would've had your Bitcoins instantly if you had a receipt.
I believe that this behavior is very similar as to what happened in this case, as well as the case when he had a
dispute with segveg, even to the point that turtlehurricane opened his own
scam accusation against segvec regarding the incident.
Regardless of what ends up happening in this case, anyone considering to deal with turtlehurricane in the future should absolutely use escrow.
