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August 25, 2015, 04:20:52 AM
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August 25, 2015, 04:24:54 AM
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So you thought XT would have reached consensus overnight?

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August 25, 2015, 04:52:10 AM
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I'd love to see XT fork at 75% nodes, their blockchain would die in less than a day. People can hype up XT as much as they want, real miners aren't on board so it's just about impossible. Well less than 1% of all mining power is using XT. Even Ralph Nader did better than that.
You mean most of the nodes are not the miner?
XT is not a fork if it can gain 75% support, core is the fork.
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August 25, 2015, 04:57:37 AM
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I'd love to see XT fork at 75% nodes, their blockchain would die in less than a day. People can hype up XT as much as they want, real miners aren't on board so it's just about impossible. Well less than 1% of all mining power is using XT. Even Ralph Nader did better than that.
You mean most of the nodes are not the miner?
XT is not a fork if it can gain 75% support, core is the fork.

Dont want to be rude but actually if XT pass, xt will be the fork.
A fork is the change of a actual protocol and the actual one is core.  Wink

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August 25, 2015, 05:00:20 AM
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Nodes... miners. Is there any marketplace where can be xt coins sold? which price?  Grin
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August 25, 2015, 05:01:17 AM
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There are still many months before the increase of blocksize planned in 2016. XT still has much potential growth room.
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August 25, 2015, 05:02:52 AM
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Nodes... miners. Is there any marketplace where can be xt coins sold? which price?  Grin
If you like I can sell you XTcoins,r u interested? Grin
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August 25, 2015, 06:12:16 AM
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I'd love to see XT fork at 75% nodes, their blockchain would die in less than a day.

AFAIK the switch will be triggered at 75% of mined blocks, not at 75% nodes. Core will likely die off shortly thereafter in that case.

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August 25, 2015, 06:22:56 AM
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No one will die, it just forks. One clients will be consider valid one chain, others - other.
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August 25, 2015, 06:27:47 AM
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but the question is: how many nodes are either fake NoXT nodes or just free amazon cloud server nodes?

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August 25, 2015, 06:42:42 AM
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Miners are probably the last ones to switch over... They have too much to lose on potential downtime.. They can't risk losing their rigs for hours if the update fails or they need to redownload the blockchain or something.
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August 25, 2015, 04:03:14 PM
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Mostly fake nodes and free trials

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August 25, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
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Mostly fake nodes and free trials

that's what I think too... but is there a way to proof it? as I understand it NoXT nodes are no different than regular ones?

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August 26, 2015, 03:03:14 AM
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XT is losing the vote. Still only 5 blocks out of the last 1000 and that is after it lost ground dropping to 4 blocks out of 1000. XT looks like a failed experiment. Block size will likely increase through some implementation in Core if I had to hazard a guess. I suspect we see news in the next couple months that will put this to rest once and for all.
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August 26, 2015, 04:07:17 AM
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So co-opting Bitcoin can be done for the low cost of spamming free VPNs?  Wow!  

Imagine all these years they told us it required 51% hash, even though mining pools running old computers in mothers' basements have gotten close to it, and would be "too expensive".   Grin  

Now we find out you can take over Bitcoin for even cheaper than that!   Shocked

I'ld say let BitcoinFX take over the network and piss off as many people as possible.  Bitcoin prices have been to high since 2013 for an unproven and none adopted  tech.  Apple is calling ApplePay a failure for only having 80 million users.  What does that make Bitcoin with only 100,000 after 6 years?

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August 26, 2015, 05:26:01 AM
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there are only 12 nodes that make 96% the blocks.  when those 12 admins of those 12 pools switch over the decision is made. https://blockchain.info/pools

think of them as the 12 apostles of bitcoin.  they carry the word, I mean hash

centralization has its good and bad points

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August 26, 2015, 06:40:52 AM
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So co-opting Bitcoin can be done for the low cost of spamming free VPNs?  Wow!  

Imagine all these years they told us it required 51% hash, even though mining pools running old computers in mothers' basements have gotten close to it, and would be "too expensive".   Grin  

Now we find out you can take over Bitcoin for even cheaper than that!   Shocked

I'ld say let BitcoinFX take over the network and piss off as many people as possible.  Bitcoin prices have been to high since 2013 for an unproven and none adopted  tech.  Apple is calling ApplePay a failure for only having 80 million users.  What does that make Bitcoin with only 100,000 after 6 years?


Since these aren't fully functioning nodes, then I believe they mean: nothing.


there are only 12 nodes that make 96% the blocks.  when those 12 admins of those 12 pools switch over the decision is made. https://blockchain.info/pools

think of them as the 12 apostles of bitcoin.  they carry the word, I mean hash

centralization has its good and bad points

Yes, and it looks like the biggest of them has come out against XT

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3iaygz/block_size_debate_takes_turn_f2pool_rejects_xt/
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August 26, 2015, 06:51:43 AM
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Im use online wallet (blockchain)
why im must scared with Fork to XT

iam scared only in price bitcoin

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