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August 27, 2015, 03:26:18 PM
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August 27, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
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Will read shortly, and thanks in advance for the read.
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August 27, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
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very interesting read. most of your points are true although they are not more than assumptions that may or may not be correct.

though I don't think Satoshi left right after Gavin met the CIA. from what I read, Gavin met the CIA after Satoshi disappeared. kindly point me to the right direction if you think I'm wrong.

also, the name "Satoshi" can mean anything from "Wise (name)" to "Guidance (noun)" or even "Village Child (name)". and Nakamoto doesn't transliterates into "Central", it transliterates into "Central/Middle Origin" and "Central/Middle THING", among so many other meanings. we can't know what the name Satoshi Nakamoto means for sure because he never wrote his name in kanji.
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August 27, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
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very interesting read. most of your points are true although they are not more than assumptions that may or may not be correct.

though I don't think Satoshi left right after Gavin met the CIA. from what I read, Gavin met the CIA after Satoshi disappeared. kindly point me to the right direction if you think I'm wrong.

also, the name "Satoshi" can mean anything from "Wise (name)" to "Guidance (noun)" or even "Village Child (name)". and Nakamoto doesn't transliterates into "Central", it transliterates into "Central/Middle Origin" and "Central/Middle THING", among so many other meanings. we can't know what the name Satoshi Nakamoto means for sure because he never wrote his name in kanji.

Great insight, I appreciate your comments.  Its so hard not to give it attention (all the higher technically oriented users who say they don't care so much about who invented it but they're glad the technology still works and is proven), but also, maybe there is less to the story and we are simply romatasicing it to seem cooler than it is.  I very much would like to have some more insight as to whether its a lone person or group, I wish the guy would give us one last go to know that they are at least okay or in good stead, or hey, if they were something like the govt or group or maybe who knows. 

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August 27, 2015, 05:04:13 PM
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If the US government created Bitcoin, it would look like the XT version that is currently suggested by the Mike/Gavin fork or something like Ripple.

I doubt that Satoshi would have wanted Bitcoin to bow to these specifications, if they asked him/her/them to.

The people who created Bitcoin was in my opinion set on Libertarian goals to free the people from centralized control and not to infringe on their

privacy. The only thing that might benefit governments, would be to identify the users and to track every little transaction that are done with it. That

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August 28, 2015, 12:03:28 AM
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No, i read Satoshi left after Gavin meet the CIA, he also said "We have kicked the hornet nest and it's going toward us" after bitcoin received attention after wikileaks proposed BTC as a way to donate. check nakamotoinstitute.org


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August 28, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
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If you haven't read about how snowden first contacted and met with reporters to tell his story & share his documents on the nsa, you should.

To me, it sounds very familiar to how "satoshi" handed off the btc project.  Keep in mind, snowden was in the cia prior to working as an independent contractor for the nsa.

I think its very unlikely "satoshi" is just one person. It sounds more like a group of people, who worked in tandem to hide a fake identity.  That seems to be the only was his "identity" could never be traced back to one individual.
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August 28, 2015, 05:47:28 PM
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Interesting article but I don't believe that the US government has something to do with Bitcoin. This would not make sense, although the article stresses some good arguments.
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August 28, 2015, 07:00:53 PM
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may be new world order supporters,the zionists
think that one world government with one money thats have no wall and its technologic

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August 29, 2015, 12:28:24 AM
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Your points supporting some kind of government involvement in Bitcoin have little merit.

#1 - A fanciful transliteration is no more evidence of government involvement than the fact that Lincoln and Kennedy both having 7 letters implies some kind of conspiracy behind their assassinations.
#2 - Creating a subversive currency in order to gain control is illogical.
#3 - Again, creating a currency that increases transparency in order to deceive people is illogical.
#4 - I think you got the "handoff" timeline backwards, at least according to Gavin. And "no verified proof of Satoshi Nakamoto again" has no relation to government involvement. What does that even mean?
#5 - Only 8360 .gov pages citing Bitcoin vs. 108 million total hits on Google. That seems like an argument against your assertions.
#6 - "Shadow is an open-source network simulator/emulator hybrid" is hardly evidence of a government being behind Bitcoin. Anyway, it is public knowledge that the U.S. Navy developed TOR. If they invented Bitcoin, why would they keep that a secret?
#7 - The article you cite is nothing but speculation with no supporting facts. The paper you cite describes something very different from Bitcoin.

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August 29, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
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You give the US government far more credit for what they may or may not be capable of doing.

Are they kicking themselves in the balls for not coming up with this idea themselves? probably.
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