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August 30, 2015, 10:01:01 AM
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American Teen Sentenced to 11 Years for Helping ISIS with Bitcoin

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August 30, 2015, 10:09:25 AM
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Helping terrorist should always end like this. It does not matter if he gave them FIAT or Bitcoins it is a crime. Thinking this situation is bitcoin fault is illogical, bitcoin it is just a tool.
There will be always some twisted humans who do shit like that.
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August 30, 2015, 10:13:43 AM
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how they tracked back the address to his real name, i'm curious, if ISIS is at least intelligent enough they should change address for every new "donation"

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August 30, 2015, 10:27:01 AM
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Also his name is "Ali Shukri Amin" and it doesn't sound as american teen name at all lol...also bitcoin has nothing to do with this it's just payment method...it's retardation of that teen and he deserves it.

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August 30, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
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Also his name is "Ali Shukri Amin" and it doesn't sound as american teen name at all lol...also bitcoin has nothing to do with this it's just payment method...it's retardation of that teen and he deserves it.

What the hell is an american teen name? As far as I know the US is a country of immigrants from all over the world.
You have names like Schmidt, Heinz,  Peterson, Mcloud, Amim, Chevalier, Okabe, Kim and many many more names.

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August 30, 2015, 10:53:54 AM
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bitcoin has nothing to do with this it's just payment method...it's retardation of that teen and he deserves it.

Of course, it has nothing to do at all, but pieces of news like this are not the best 'commercial' for Bitcoin among the general public, especially when we hope for a faster adoption.

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August 30, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
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agree, this is the typical sensationalist newsletter that only want it, in the end there is no matter if he did it with bitcoin ot fiat, thats not the problem at least IMHO.

how they tracked back the address to his real name, i'm curious, if ISIS is at least intelligent enough they should change address for every new "donation"

im curious about that too, sadly they didnt say it Wink
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August 30, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
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If you research about the incident, then you will find out that it had hardly anything to do with the Bitcoins. Ali Shukri Amin was sentenced to 11-years in prison, for recruiting American citizens to fight for the ISIS. He had already helped one of his recruits (the 18-year old ethnic Iranian Reza Niknejad) to travel to Syria. Amin was caught before he could send more recruits to the ISIS territory.

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August 30, 2015, 11:18:39 AM
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This doesn't give Bitcoin nothing in my opinion. It gives it just what you want to give it in the first place. If your view is negative, yes it will add to the negative opinion that you might have.

Dollar should then be the most hated currency of all time. Since it's birth, millions of bad deeds, crimes and criminals have been financed with, and yet, everybody loves when they get some dollar bills.

So as you can see, all is relative and it depends of the one's point of view.
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August 30, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
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Also his name is "Ali Shukri Amin" and it doesn't sound as american teen name at all lol...also bitcoin has nothing to do with this it's just payment method...it's retardation of that teen and he deserves it.

What the hell is an american teen name? As far as I know the US is a country of immigrants from all over the world.
You have names like Schmidt, Heinz,  Peterson, Mcloud, Amim, Chevalier, Okabe, Kim and many many more names.
Look thought the names you have written and then look at the one that is listed in article...i'm not racist or anything (thought i'm atheist) but it sounds like name from these countries...

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August 30, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
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This is the kind of misleading title that the media shouldn't print. This guy was actually recruiting on behalf of ISIS and bitcoin was just incidental to the story.
Sure, this headline draws more eyeballs to the article, but the editor should think twice before clearing a title like that.

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August 30, 2015, 12:49:58 PM
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well it can happen not only with bitcoins can it? i guess it still gives it bad reputation

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August 30, 2015, 01:53:28 PM
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This is the kind of misleading title that the media shouldn't print. This guy was actually recruiting on behalf of ISIS and bitcoin was just incidental to the story.
Sure, this headline draws more eyeballs to the article, but the editor should think twice before clearing a title like that.

That is exactly the point. The prison sentence was handed out for recruiting American citizens in to ISIS (and in my opinion, he was given a very mild punishment, should have been life without parole). Amin was in contact with senior ISIS figures in Syria, and he was trying to convince them to use Bitcoin. The leaders, however decided against using Bitcoin.

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August 30, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
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This is the kind of misleading title that the media shouldn't print. This guy was actually recruiting on behalf of ISIS and bitcoin was just incidental to the story.
Sure, this headline draws more eyeballs to the article, but the editor should think twice before clearing a title like that.

True, I bet people have sent money to ISIS using all sorts of methods including Paypal, but I have never read a headline about someone helping ISIS with Paypal donations. Twitter is full of accounts promoting ISIS, but you don't get the media blaming Twitter. It's a cheap sensationalist headline and t's not going to put people off Bitcoin because people will see through it.
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August 30, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
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This is the kind of misleading title that the media shouldn't print. This guy was actually recruiting on behalf of ISIS and bitcoin was just incidental to the story.
Sure, this headline draws more eyeballs to the article, but the editor should think twice before clearing a title like that.

True, I bet people have sent money to ISIS using all sorts of methods including Paypal, but I have never read a headline about someone helping ISIS with Paypal donations. Twitter is full of accounts promoting ISIS, but you don't get the media blaming Twitter. It's a cheap sensationalist headline and t's not going to put people off Bitcoin because people will see through it.

Exactly, I don't see how this should harm bitcoin's reputation in anyway, if someone is helping terrorist he'll go to Jail, it's as simple as that. What means he chose or how he helped them is irrelevant, it's funny how whenever there is bitcoin related to a crime, they stop blaming the actual criminals but put the blame on bitcoin.

 

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August 30, 2015, 03:00:33 PM
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Guys, not sure why you keep ignoring the fact that we, Bitcoin users, are not the general public and while we continue to love Bitcoin when we hear bad news involving it, the general public doesn't feel the same way. OK, be it FIAT or BTC, that doesn't change our views, but when it comes to the masses, it's very different, because, unlike BTC, FIAT doesn't need to build a reputation.

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August 30, 2015, 03:03:50 PM
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What the hell is an american teen name?


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You don't get names like that anywhere other than the US.

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August 30, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
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Its a sad and scary world when it comes to terrorism. Why cant we just get along. Life is to important for such hatred in the world.

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August 30, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
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Its a sad and scary world when it comes to terrorism. Why cant we just get along. Life is to important for such hatred in the world.

Well, we can't just let terrorists spread terror all around the globe. We, as human beings, should still care for our fellowmen. We may not help directly to the cause but we can still do so by giving our sympathy to those who are in trouble.

how they tracked back the address to his real name, i'm curious, if ISIS is at least intelligent enough they should change address for every new "donation"

This, I think is somewhat trivial. As far as I know, no one can actually directly link an address to a real person unless that person advertises his address for whatever reason he/she has. How did they come up with the name of the kid?

If you research about the incident, then you will find out that it had hardly anything to do with the Bitcoins. Ali Shukri Amin was sentenced to 11-years in prison, for recruiting American citizens to fight for the ISIS. He had already helped one of his recruits (the 18-year old ethnic Iranian Reza Niknejad) to travel to Syria. Amin was caught before he could send more recruits to the ISIS territory.

Did a quick research on the matter, and I couldn't find hardly anything about bitcoin except for this article. Nice diversion of attention there. Well played.

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