Clerk defies U.S. high court, denies gay marriage licenses

[Gleb Gamow]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/01/us-usa-gaymarriage-kentucky-idUSKCN0R13S220150901

Solution: If ONE clerk has an issue with issuing out marriage licenses to gay couples due to her religious objections, SIMPLY FUCKIN' REPLACE THE CLERK with one that will. Unless, that is, she's being made the "fall gal" for Kentucky and/or this one county.

Surely, there's more than one clerk, one of which has no religious objections how could at least handle these unique requests. This way the clerk's beliefs are not put in question and she maintains her position and salary, so that at the end of the day, everybody's happy, some happily married.

Myself, I'm saving my poppy hole for the right woman. Until that day, my right index finger fills that role (sometimes the left index finger, but don't tell the right one).

[saddampbuh]

much respect to this lady who faces prison for defying the evil jewish sodomite agenda

[Gleb Gamow]

^^^ No problem here from me with you expressing your belief. Wait, what flag does... 

[bryant.coleman]

LOL... at least this time, the reaction from the LGBT lobby was more calculated. The last time (in Oregon), they got the baker (who refused to bake a homosexual cake) to close his shop and managed to get some $200,000 in hard cash for "mental agony". Not interested in a multi-million dollar compensation suit this time?

[Swordsoffreedom]

much respect to this lady who faces prison for defying the evil jewish sodomite agenda

Nice pic, and the women certainly deserves respect for sticking to her guns especially against this radical sexual movement their is sabotage and lots of money involved in these things.
As much as the LGBT community likes to think this issue is settled and old news it's a constant issue that irks a lot of people even if they don't hate the idea of gay rights personally their is a difference when its like a giant c**kflag being waved at you if you dare to have a contrary opinion of sodomy.

Two more brave souls
Transit Worker refuses to drive gay bus
http://globalnews.ca/news/2195066/calgary-transit-driver-refuses-to-drive-pride-bus-citing-radical-sexual-movement/

All of the brave Ontario parents that disapprove of the new curriculum.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/one-week-no-school-ontario-parents-threatening-to-pull-their-kids-from-classes-to-protest-sex-ed-changes
http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2015/09/02/live-sex-ed-curriculum-protests-planned-across-the-province.html

[bryant.coleman]

All of the brave Ontario parents that disapprove of the new curriculum.

Do you know what happened after this? I have friends in Canada, and they have told me that children are taken away from their parents and placed in foster homes (mostly belonging to homosexuals) for doing something which is much less provocative. I just hope that the kids are safe with their parents, in this case.

[cooldgamer]

Well it looks like she's going to a hearing today for Contempt of Court charges.  All of this would be a hell of a lot easier if she would just resign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/03/us/kentucky-rowan-county-clerk-kim-davis-denies-marriage-license.html?_r=0

Edit: she has been taken into custody until she agrees to issue the licenses

[saddampbuh]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34145941

A US judge has ordered a Kentucky official jailed for contempt of court after she has repeatedly refused to issue marriage licences to gay couples.
Kim Davis, an elected official in Rowan County, has said that her Christian faith should exempt her from signing the licenses.
The US Supreme Court declared gay marriage legal in June.
Ms Davis, who has said she is obeying "God's law," has been taken into custody by US Marshalls.

[Swordsoffreedom]

All of the brave Ontario parents that disapprove of the new curriculum.

Do you know what happened after this? I have friends in Canada, and they have told me that children are taken away from their parents and placed in foster homes (mostly belonging to homosexuals) for doing something which is much less provocative. I just hope that the kids are safe with their parents, in this case.

In this case it looks like the scale is to large for them to make any threats like moving children to foster homes, society in general has discouraged the curriculum change and it was considered a political issue there in the last election, too little consultation before this was implemented.

Rather promotion of home schooling and private schooling seems to be the norm at present as this is still an ongoing story.

“We feel hopeless,” said Khalid Mahmood, a father of five who lives in Thorncliffe Park. His three younger children will not be in class when schools open next week. “Our goal is to do home-schooling for a month, maybe longer,” said Mahmood, who also helped organize a protest rally outside Premier Kathleen Wynne’s constituency office Wednesday.

“We don’t want to be outside the mainstream,” Mahmood said. “Our call is not anti-public school system, but we feel there should be a system that should accommodate all people.”

http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2015/09/03/parents-scrambling-for-alternatives-to-public-schools-amid-sex-ed-row.html
http://www.am980.ca/2015/09/02/sex-ed-curriculum-protests-2/

[Vod]

Ms Davis, who has said she is obeying "God's law," has been taken into custody by US Marshalls.

+1

She is being paid and she is not doing her job.  Since you can't fire her, throw her worthless ass in jail.

Remember, religion is just the word of someone (who believes the word of someone)^100¹ who believed the world was flat and snakes talked.

Have her god pay her salary.

¹ (100 is based on 20 centuries of 5 generations each.  This number should probably be higher.)

[pattu1]

And her deputies have done what she should have done.
This should end the debate.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/04/us-usa-gaymarriage-kentucky-idUSKCN0R13S220150904
Kentucky clerk's office ends ban on same-sex marriage licenses

[bryant.coleman]

This is the new face of Gaymerica. In less than 10 years time, every individual, who refuses to bow down to the Political Correctness - LGBT - radical feminist agendas will be either jailed, or forced to move to some other sane country (such as Russia or Japan). Anyway... I think this development will be good for the world peace. If the Americans transform themselves to feminized pussies, then it will be harder for them to invade other countries such as Iraq and Libya.

[Possum577]

This is a really funny case. It's even more funny that this woman doesn't seem to understand why she's being told she's wrong. All reports indicate that she thinks the courts are trying to supress her belief in her faith, but that has nothing to do with it.

One of the points of Freedom of Religion (in the US) is that one person can't impose their religious beliefs on any other person, which is exactly what she's doing. If she can't issue marriage licenses as the law allows because of her religious beliefs than her conviction to her religious beliefs don't make her fit to serve in that role and she must step down. She'd do more for her cause by stepping down and using the opportunity to explain why.

She's stood up for her beliefs in the absolute wrong way, which is unfortunate because it's admirable to stand up for one's beliefs.

I wonder how long she'll be in jail before she realizes the real reason why she's in the wrong.

This is the new face of Gaymerica. In less than 10 years time, every individual, who refuses to bow down to the Political Correctness - LGBT - radical feminist agendas will be either jailed, or forced to move to some other sane country (such as Russia or Japan). Anyway... I think this development will be good for the world peace. If the Americans transform themselves to feminized pussies, then it will be harder for them to invade other countries such as Iraq and Libya.

Bryant, if you mean this is the "new face" because people who are gay are being given the same rights as everyone else - then you're right, this is the new face of America. This has everything to do with politically correct (but not in the figurative interpretation), if it's legal for a gay couple to get married than it is literally politically incorrect to deny them that right. If you're not happy with that law you should do something to try to change it.

But there's nothing feminist or pussy about granting the same rights to everybody. If you don't believe in this statement: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

You probably don't belong in America...it's that simple.

[bryant.coleman]

Bryant, if you mean this is the "new face" because people who are gay are being given the same rights as everyone else - then you're right, this is the new face of America. This has everything to do with politically correct (but not in the figurative interpretation), if it's legal for a gay couple to get married than it is literally politically incorrect to deny them that right. If you're not happy with that law you should do something to try to change it.

Marriage doesn't mean anything to the homosexuals, as almost all of the gay unions are polygamous. According to surveys conducted by reputed researchers, less than 5% of the homosexuals stay faithful to their partner. Adultery is an issue with heterosexual unions as well, but in such cases it is normally an anomaly. In case of homosexuals, it is more like a norm.

You probably don't belong in America...it's that simple.

I am not interested in immigrating to Gaymerica. But thanks anyway.

[Vod]

According to surveys conducted by reputed researchers, less than 5% of the homosexuals stay faithful to their partner.

I'd love to see a link to one of these "surveys".  Because it just doesn't seem true.  

She is spending her third night in jail tonight.  She'll stay there until she resigns or actually does what she is being paid to do.

[BADecker]

I wonder what the real issue is? Some straight folks get a marriage license because they think it is the right thing to do. Others get the license for political or tax reasons. Many don't get a license at all, and simply live by common law/contract marriage. What was the real reason in this case? After all, nobody needs a license.

[Swordsoffreedom]

This is the new face of Gaymerica. In less than 10 years time, every individual, who refuses to bow down to the Political Correctness - LGBT - radical feminist agendas will be either jailed, or forced to move to some other sane country (such as Russia or Japan). Anyway... I think this development will be good for the world peace. If the Americans transform themselves to feminized pussies, then it will be harder for them to invade other countries such as Iraq and Libya.

It does make me wonder from a competitive standpoint if labor and capital would emigrate from the US to other friendlier countries if they go to far down that rabbit-hole and arrest people for opposing LGBT viewpoints if they don't have substantial support behind them.
Whether it leads to world peace through feminism (ha-ha I can actually humor that idea working) or is just one more spark that will lead to civil unrest for a generation to come is another question.

According to surveys conducted by reputed researchers, less than 5% of the homosexuals stay faithful to their partner.

I'd love to see a link to one of these "surveys".  Because it just doesn't seem true.   

She is spending her third night in jail tonight.  She'll stay there until she resigns or actually does what she is being paid to do.

Looked it up since that comment interested me if it could be backed up could not find many polygamy studies but did look at the line of argumentation extending from it it seems that researchers want more data.

"In order to best prepare for possible debate surrounding Canada's polygamy policy, critical research is needed," a Status of Women Canada document said last year.

"It is vital that researchers explore the impacts of polygamy on women and children and gender equality, as well as the challenges that polygamy presents to society."

Sayd Mumtaz Ali, president of the Canadian Society of Muslims, said last year that he opposes same-sex marriage, but said if it is legalized in Canada, polygamists would be within their rights to challenge for their choice of family life to be legalized.

"This is a liberally minded country with regards to equal rights, and literally millions live common law," Mr. Ali said.

Multiple marriage is legal in most Muslim countries, he said. But Muslim men who take more than one wife must prove to local courts that they are capable of treating them all equally, Mr. Ali said.

Chief author of the report Martha Bailey told The Canadian Press that criminalizing polygamy serves no good purpose.

"Why criminalize the behaviour?" she said. "We don't criminalize adultery.

"In light of the fact that we have a fairly permissive society, why are we singling out that particular form of behaviour for criminalization?, Ms. Bailey told The Canadian Press.

Ms. Baines said polygamy is rarely prosecuted. "No one is actually being prosecuted but the provision is still being used in the context of immigration and refugee stuff. People are not being admitted to the country."

She said removing it from the Criminal Code will not force marriage laws to recognize it, but would only remove criminal sanctions.

http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=8451dc17-5b5f-4ea4-a05f-71f7c758662a&

[bryant.coleman]

According to surveys conducted by reputed researchers, less than 5% of the homosexuals stay faithful to their partner.

I'd love to see a link to one of these "surveys".  Because it just doesn't seem true.  

In their publication, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women, Alan P. Bell and Martin S. Weinberg gives some stats relating to the number of sexual partners for an average homosexual.

83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners

79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers

And some more stats from The Journal of Sex Research

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813477

The modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners.

[Vod]

83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners

79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers

I've probably had heterosexual sex with 30 or more partners in my lifetime.  20 of those were probably strangers (known less than a week), so well over one half.

That doesn't mean if I settle down I have a 95% chance to leave my partner.  

[bryant.coleman]

I've probably had sex with 30 or more partners in my lifetime.  20 of those were probably strangers (known less than a week), so well over one half.

That doesn't mean if I settle down I have a 95% chance to leave my partner. 

In case of heterosexuals, this is quite rare. May be the lucky 5% or the 10% might be able to get a dozen or more partners. You seems to be one of those lucky guys.  And it is quite rare for married heterosexuals to have physical relations with strangers.

However, as far as I know, among the homosexuals, it is more like a norm. Married homosexuals frequently engage in sexual activity with complete strangers, and no one thinks that it is unethical.