The Grand [Bitcoin] Inquisitor

[turvarya]

With the whole blocksize debate, there is a lot of talk about what Bitcoin is supposed to be. There are often phrases used like "the vision of Bitcoin was" or even "Satoshi's vision was" followed by statements, that have nothing to do, with what Satoshi actually said.

That reminded me a lot of Fyodor Dostoevsky short story of "The Grand Inquisitor".

http://www.online-literature.com/dostoevsky/2884/

and maybe after you read that, you could read the Whitepaper or some of Satoshi's Forum Posts

[S4VV4S]

So your point is that people use Satoshi's name and what he said to promote their proposition.
That is good and bad at the same time.

It is good because (if true) we are sticking to what was envisioned by Satoshi - BUT we should not be limited to that as times change.

It is bad because it might be used to promote something that is bad for Bitcoin as a whole.

That is why consensus must be reached

[turvarya]

So your point is that people use Satoshi's name and what he said to promote their proposition.
That is good and bad at the same time.

It is good because (if true) we are sticking to what was envisioned by Satoshi - BUT we should not be limited to that as times change.

It is bad because it might be used to promote something that is bad for Bitcoin as a whole.

That is why consensus must be reached

I fully agree with that statement, but I just would love to see, somebody saying "Satoshi said this, but he was wrong and this is why". I haven't seen such a statement, yet. That would be a honest thing. But using his name to promote your own vision is just straight propaganda.

Another nice example, for what is happening would be "Small gods" from  Terry Pratchett

€dit:

So your point is that people use Satoshi's name and what he said to promote their proposition.

My point is not, that they use something Satoshi said, but something he didn't say, but make it sound like, he said something like that.

[S4VV4S]

So your point is that people use Satoshi's name and what he said to promote their proposition.
That is good and bad at the same time.

It is good because (if true) we are sticking to what was envisioned by Satoshi - BUT we should not be limited to that as times change.

It is bad because it might be used to promote something that is bad for Bitcoin as a whole.

That is why consensus must be reached

I fully agree with that statement, but I just would love to see, somebody saying "Satoshi said this, but he was wrong and this is why". I haven't seen such a statement, yet. That would be a honest thing. But using his name to promote your own vision is just straight propaganda.

Another nice example, for what is happening would be "Small gods" from  Terry Pratchett

€dit:

So your point is that people use Satoshi's name and what he said to promote their proposition.

My point is not, that they use something Satoshi said, but something he didn't say, but make it sound like, he said something like that.

Gotcha, I know what you mean.
In the end however, we should not depend only on what Satoshi said and learn to use our own judgement according to the circumstances.