[ANN] Mercurial - [MCI] - ?Scamming? Crypto Currencies - unmoderated for fos

[raetsch]

well, i invested in mercurial, so i am a little concerned about the mod/dev deleting posts without any comment...
i don't know how many posts got deleted already, but here is mine:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Any ideas on what exchanges this will be on?  Should we start campaigning for an exchange, or is it already determined?

It's already determined once the coin goes live.


Edit: Fuds non-related to this project will be deleted asap. (bitcrea)

maybe it was fud, but me and many others read the post of bitcrea (2 times).
maybe you can provide some details why this is fud?
at the moment there is a huge cfc on your side - an (maybe false) accusation from bitcrea on the other.


well, this is crypto-altcoin-scamworld. why don't readers should think you only need some additional time to get the rest of btc in your bags, wearing your fast shoes already?

so hope dies last...

[Razerglass]

said it was a scam on page 1.

[sorinln]

Is a mexican scammer. I found 2 fb profiles associated with this gay:
https://www.facebook.com/josue.michael.73
https://www.facebook.com/danielviruete.mendoza

And this is the old bitcointalk profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98712

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591296.msg6547239#msg6547239

[Jerry S]

haha this gay, hope hell be a one of it, thanks for the info

[Razerglass]

you can review the post history of the coin dev volterous or w.e and clearly see its a purchased account. its a good 70$ investment for the o.g status on the forum to scam.

[raetsch]

@bitcrea
please post your "story" here

[Bitcrea]

He did not paid me the full agreed amount of BTC for the graphic design work I did for Mercurial project.
He's simply ignoring me here and blocked me on Skype.
I have all chat logs and screenshots.

@sorinln, what makes you think that it's him in those facebook profiles?

[andrepierre]

He did not paid me the full agreed amount of BTC for the graphic design work I did for Mercurial project.
He's simply ignoring me here and blocked me on Skype.
I have all chat logs and screenshots.

@sorinln, what makes you think that it's him in those facebook profiles?

So how much does he owe you?

[sorinln]

He did not paid me the full agreed amount of BTC for the graphic design work I did for Mercurial project.
He's simply ignoring me here and blocked me on Skype.
I have all chat logs and screenshots.

@sorinln, what makes you think that it's him in those facebook profiles?

1. Check this: https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/9210590/campaigns
2. "daybreakgdl@gmail.com" this mail belongs to second fb account

[sorinln]

He did not paid me the full agreed amount of BTC for the graphic design work I did for Mercurial project.
He's simply ignoring me here and blocked me on Skype.
I have all chat logs and screenshots.

@sorinln, what makes you think that it's him in those facebook profiles?

1. Check this: https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/9210590/campaigns
2. "daybreakgdl@gmail.com" this mail belongs to second fb account

Edit: maybe is are fake profiles but I want to emphasize that he lives in Mexico, not in USA as he pretends. Also his IP from the mail indicates Mexico.

[Bitcrea]

He still owes me 3.5 BTC and yeah I got his IP and location, also points to Mexico.

[andrepierre]

He still owes me 3.5 BTC and yeah I got his IP and location, also points to Mexico.

I think there are two sides of the story regarding this, I know many designers who charge much much less than you, 3.5 btc that is extremely expensive for your work.

Sorry I do need to question you as well and sure that the truth will prevail soon.

[Bitcrea]

He still owes me 3.5 BTC and yeah I got his IP and location, also points to Mexico.

I think there are two sides of the story regarding this, I know many designers who charge much much less than you, 3.5 btc that is extremely expensive for your work.

Sorry I do need to question you as well and sure that the truth will prevail soon.

How is that expensive? How do you put price on the work I do?
I'm not comparing myself to anyone else, I am professional at what I do and I make a living out of multidisciplinary graphic design.
Every agreement I make is based on various factors, so price fluctuates a lot per project.
The amount here is not the important factor anyways, the thing is we agreed on a deal and the deal was breached by other party - I do not tolerate that.

[AltcoinSteps]

Why not just post the conversation with him so we can see?

[cjmoles]

He still owes me 3.5 BTC and yeah I got his IP and location, also points to Mexico.

I think there are two sides of the story regarding this, I know many designers who charge much much less than you, 3.5 btc that is extremely expensive for your work.

Sorry I do need to question you as well and sure that the truth will prevail soon.

He was already paid 1.5 BTC....so, he wanted a total of 5 BTC!  That's an astronomical amount to ask for design work in my opinion!

[cjmoles]

I witnessed the whole thread and was on Bitcrea's side as far as allowing him to be heard in the thread; consequently, Voltarius yielded to the community and allowed Bitcrea to be heard.  Upon review of the argument, this is how I interpret it:  Bitcrea seen how much capital the project generated and feels like he, not unjustly maybe, deserves a larger piece of the pie for his work, plain and simple.

I mean, 1.5 BTC seems like a fair amount, and if, by chance, negotiations were interpreted differently by each party, they need to produce the contract to resolve the issue.

[Bitcrea]

I witnessed the whole thread and was on Bitcrea's side as far as allowing him to be heard in the thread; consequently, Voltarius yielded to the community and allowed Bitcrea to be heard.  Upon review of the argument, this is how I interpret it:  Bitcrea seen how much capital the project generated and feels like he, not unjustly maybe, deserves a larger piece of the pie for his work, plain and simple.

I mean, 1.5 BTC seems like a fair amount, and if, by chance, negotiations were interpreted differently by each party, they need to produce the contract to resolve the issue.

Your interpretation is wrong. Please read it carefully. I asked to pay what was agreed as a minimum amount BEFORE investments were kicking in, the amount of investments doesn't bother me at this point. Actually I am only asking for the minimum amount that was agreed.

Part of agreement talked on Skype:
 Bitcrea: Okay, lets shake hands on this deal and we're set to go. How does that sounds: 10% if less than 100, 15% if more than 100. A minimum of 5BTC no matter how much do you sell. Sounds good?
 John: Ok!
 John: That sounds good!
 Bitcrea: Deal. Screenshot taken! (handshake)
 John: Deal! (handshake)

[tyz]

Mercurial was to be considered as a scam from beginning. Most posted it on the first page. There was some time before they got deleted, so you should have been warned about it.

[cjmoles]

I witnessed the whole thread and was on Bitcrea's side as far as allowing him to be heard in the thread; consequently, Voltarius yielded to the community and allowed Bitcrea to be heard.  Upon review of the argument, this is how I interpret it:  Bitcrea seen how much capital the project generated and feels like he, not unjustly maybe, deserves a larger piece of the pie for his work, plain and simple.

I mean, 1.5 BTC seems like a fair amount, and if, by chance, negotiations were interpreted differently by each party, they need to produce the contract to resolve the issue.

Your interpretation is wrong. Please read it carefully. I asked to pay what was agreed as a minimum amount BEFORE investments were kicking in, the amount of investments doesn't bother me at this point. Actually I am only asking for the minimum amount that was agreed.

Part of agreement talked on Skype:
 Bitcrea: Okay, lets shake hands on this deal and we're set to go. How does that sounds: 10% if less than 100, 15% if more than 100. A minimum of 5BTC no matter how much do you sell. Sounds good?
 John: Ok!
 John: That sounds good!
 Bitcrea: Deal. Screenshot taken! (handshake)
 John: Deal! (handshake)

Hmmm

[thoth-Atlantian]

Get out while you can, And never invest in Mod Ann coins