Issue with bitaddress.org 20BTC reward for assistance

[btcnewb1]

20 btc reward for anyone that can assist me here;

I created an offline BTC wallet using a saved version of bitaddress.org html (version 2.76) on an offline macbook air using google chrome version 32.0.1700.77

I did the randomization it generated a new address I saved the public address and sent some coins to that public address, in the  next minute or so I hit "generate new address" by accident and it created a new wallet. I didn't save the private address but already sent the coins to that wallet. Is there any way to retrieve the previous address data? Is it saved in RAM anywhere or perhaps in the java?

Whoever can assist me in this will have 20 btc shipped to them immediately.

Regards

also posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k0sxc/20_btc_reward_for_bitaddressorg_issue/

[Hugroll]

holy shit, that sucks. Im sorry to say this but there's a 100% chance your bitcoins are gone. bitaddress is an open source site. they DO NOT store any information. the only possibilities would be if you copied it, there are some tools online that can recover what you copied to clipboard. but other than that bitaddress keeps no records of anything. 

[BitCoinDream]

20 btc reward for anyone that can assist me here;

I created an offline BTC wallet using a saved version of bitaddress.org html (version 2.76) on an offline macbook air using google chrome version 32.0.1700.77

I did the randomization it generated a new address I saved the public address and sent some coins to that public address, in the  next minute or so I hit "generate new address" by accident and it created a new wallet. I didn't save the private address but already sent the coins to that wallet. Is there any way to retrieve the previous address data? Is it saved in RAM anywhere or perhaps in the java?

Whoever can assist me in this will have 20 btc shipped to them immediately.

Regards

also posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k0sxc/20_btc_reward_for_bitaddressorg_issue/

Could you please provide the two addresses ?

[achow101]

It is not possible to retrieve the private key. Since it was randomized, it will next to impossible to recover the private key.

[unamis76]

Did you do it in a Live CD environment or on the installed OS? Either way it's probably impossible to recover, sorry...

Either way, if your offer of 20 BTC still stands you should escrow them. Who knows? Someone might help you somehow...

[Hugroll]

I'm just thinking to myself, if you're willing to spend $4800 just to recover the address you created. you must've dumped some real money on that address.
rip lost bitcoin, btw you mind telling us how much you lost?

[rz20]

Bitaddress is made that way, I'm sorry. It would be a better to have copies the private address first. Even with the same entropy you are not going to get the same address in 1 million years.

[smoothie]

Sounds like your coins sent to that address are gone for good if you indeed did not copy the private key.

Bummers man.

[S4VV4S]

I am almost affraid to ask how much you lost, but I have to.
How many coins did you burn?

Also, if you didn't turn off the macbook after the incident, then look for a clipboard tool (using a different system) and see if you can get something out of it.
Your chances are probably zero but it doesn't hurt trying.

[louise123]

I'm just thinking to myself, if you're willing to spend $4800 just to recover the address you created. you must've dumped some real money on that address.
rip lost bitcoin, btw you mind telling us how much you lost?

That is exactly what i was thinking.
OP do you mind telling us how many Bitcoins you sent to that address?
What is the address?

[Kyraishi]

20 btc reward for anyone that can assist me here;

I created an offline BTC wallet using a saved version of bitaddress.org html (version 2.76) on an offline macbook air using google chrome version 32.0.1700.77

I did the randomization it generated a new address I saved the public address and sent some coins to that public address, in the  next minute or so I hit "generate new address" by accident and it created a new wallet. I didn't save the private address but already sent the coins to that wallet. Is there any way to retrieve the previous address data? Is it saved in RAM anywhere or perhaps in the java?

Whoever can assist me in this will have 20 btc shipped to them immediately.

Regards

also posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k0sxc/20_btc_reward_for_bitaddressorg_issue/

I am sorry to tell you brother, but your coins are lost forever.
I feel for you.
I too lost some coins before but it was only a small amount.

[keepdoing]

I do feel for the OP.  But this points out a MAJOR flaw in bitcoin..... the fact that it's leading supporters / proponents / educators are currently a merry band of inbred idiots.  Here's why I say this....

All over this site, I see people screaming in fear about the dangers of not using exchanges to hold your Bitcoin.  If you don't hold your private keys, you don't really have your bitcoin.  So here you have this schmuck that goes out and dumps a bunch of bitcoin into a situation that he really has no discipline / technological maturity, or understanding, of what he is doing - and he loses his money/bitcoin.  The reason this happened is because he probably listened to the advice of a bunch of idealistic morons on here - and ultimately he got over his technological head.

Which is SO DARN IRONICALLY AMUSING - because everyone here crows about how Bitcoin is a global currency, and yet they don't have the brains or wisdom to understand that the global population is NOT technologically savy to the degree that they can be trusted not to screw up their bitcoin.

This thread really is the best advertisement in the world for why people should put their money into a "Professional Fiat Bitcoin" style Exchange (Circle, Coinbase, etc).  Because your money is not only protected better from thieves (they have much better security than the average citizen), but more importantly, loss of an individuals money is best protected from THEMSELVES - their own stupidity.

And yeah, the big money running the exchanges.... they are greedy, evil, part of the system, basically the same people that are migrating over from running the fiat banks etc etc yatta yatta yatta.

But lets be perfectly clear.... ANY TIME that a person on this board makes reccomendations to people (who they have no idea what their technological maturity level is) that they need to be in charge of their digital money..... is basically just as evil as the banksters..... because ultimately you cause innocent people to lose their hard earned money.

Ohh, and PS.... I hate bankers more than any of you, and at least I have put a few in prison, more than I guess any of you posting here can say.....  But reality and wisdom trumps paranoid teenage-minded anarchistic views any day.  Bitcoin needs to grow up if it is to enter the mainstream, become a global currency etc.

[GonnaGrinditout]

Is it a true story? Sending maybe more than 100BTC without saving the private key? 

[S4VV4S]

Is it a true story? Sending maybe more than 100BTC without saving the private key? 

Around 138 coins according to the OP.
(check the reddit post)

[DannyHamilton]

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this points out a MAJOR flaw in bitcoin..... the fact that it's leading supporters / proponents / educators are currently a merry band of inbred idiots.
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That's not a flaw in "bitcoin", that's a flaw in the human race.

There will always be people in the world that give bad advice on any topic.  There will also always be people in the world that are foolish enough to take bad advice without considering the consequences.

In reality, maintaining control of your private keys is a perfectly valid choice for many people, and trusting someone else with control of the private keys can occasionally be the better choice for others.

However, I'd suggest that if you need to trust someone else with your private keys, then you'll want to make sure that you choose a business that is well regulated, audited, and insured.

[Kprawn]

What OS are you using? Have you rebooted since you created these addresses? I am now experimenting with the offline method to generate bitcoin addresses from a saved version of that webpage, to see if it cache

the addresses, but I am unsuccessfull sofar.

I am also looking for something to do a RAM dump, if that might be possible. If you have not rebooted... don't. There might be someone out there, that can help you retrieve something from cache memory.

About 99% sure it leaves no trace or log, and just display addresses after it's generated.   

[S4VV4S]

- snip -
this points out a MAJOR flaw in bitcoin..... the fact that it's leading supporters / proponents / educators are currently a merry band of inbred idiots.
- snip -

That's not a flaw in "bitcoin", that's a flaw in the human race.

There will always be people in the world that give bad advice on any topic.  There will also always be people in the world that are foolish enough to take bad advice without considering the consequences.

In reality, maintaining control of your private keys is a perfectly valid choice for many people, and trusting someone else with control of the private keys can occasionally be the better choice for others.

However, I'd suggest that if you need to trust someone else with your private keys, then you'll want to make sure that you choose a business that is well regulated, audited, and insured.

And I would like to add, one that uses multi-signature wallets.
You can never be too sure.
We have seen "haircuts" lately by well established banks in their area.
So consider all third party the same way as a bank.
They sure operate the same way with KYC and so on.

[neochiny]

hmmm.. i think you lost a big amount of bitcoin there...
but.. did you try to recover it by the cache history or email?
im just thinking a possiblity to get it.
but maybe theres still a solution for it. dont lose hope yet...

[Mickeyb]

Is it a true story? Sending maybe more than 100BTC without saving the private key? 

Around 138 coins according to the OP.
(check the reddit post)

Damn man, that's a lot of coins and a lot of money. What I am not getting, is how this person got a hold of so many coins without knowing how to take care of them? Did some newbie just come and drop $30,000+ without knowing how to secure their investment? This is the only logical explanation.

If you have so many coins, storing them without paper wallets/Trezor or the both is just a suicide. I have much less coins and I have taken these precautions.

Oh well, people live and learn!

[TransaDox]

I do feel for the OP.  But this points out a MAJOR flaw in bitcoin..... the fact that it's leading supporters / proponents / educators are currently a merry band of inbred idiots.  Here's why I say this....

All over this site, I see people screaming in fear about the dangers of not using exchanges to hold your Bitcoin.  If you don't hold your private keys, you don't really have your bitcoin.  So here you have this schmuck that goes out and dumps a bunch of bitcoin into a situation that he really has no discipline / technological maturity, or understanding, of what he is doing - and he loses his money/bitcoin.  The reason this happened is because he probably listened to the advice of a bunch of idealistic morons on here - and ultimately he got over his technological head.

Which is SO DARN IRONICALLY AMUSING - because everyone here crows about how Bitcoin is a global currency, and yet they don't have the brains or wisdom to understand that the global population is NOT technologically savy to the degree that they can be trusted not to screw up their bitcoin.

This thread really is the best advertisement in the world for why people should put their money into a "Professional Fiat Bitcoin" style Exchange (Circle, Coinbase, etc).  Because your money is not only protected better from thieves (they have much better security than the average citizen), but more importantly, loss of an individuals money is best protected from THEMSELVES - their own stupidity.

And yeah, the big money running the exchanges.... they are greedy, evil, part of the system, basically the same people that are migrating over from running the fiat banks etc etc yatta yatta yatta.

But lets be perfectly clear.... ANY TIME that a person on this board makes reccomendations to people (who they have no idea what their technological maturity level is) that they need to be in charge of their digital money..... is basically just as evil as the banksters..... because ultimately you cause innocent people to lose their hard earned money.

Ohh, and PS.... I hate bankers more than any of you, and at least I have put a few in prison, more than I guess any of you posting here can say.....  But reality and wisdom trumps paranoid teenage-minded anarchistic views any day.  Bitcoin needs to grow up if it is to enter the mainstream, become a global currency etc.

A bit strong. You make some points in between the vitriol and they are valid but its hard not to look past the vehemence.

I stand with those that submit that users can be their own bank and that it is a very desirable aspect to be in control of your own destiny. I also agree with you, that it is irresponsible to say that everyone needs to be in charge of their own money when they are not technically competent enough to use the tools to achieve it.

What I don't agree with is that people are stupid just because they can't use technical tools any more than my wife is stupid for not knowing how to ride a motorbike like me. The issue is we, as a community, are supplying the tools that enable us to use the system easily and not for others to use the system safely. From that point of view Bitcoin it is not ready for general consumption IMO, because the very bright, tech savvy people are engaged in defining what bitcoin is rather than thinking about how bitcoin is used. Until you get experienced developers who write applications - rather than programs -  engaged en-mass, this is the way it will stay.

There are signs, though. Signs that usability is being thought about. They are disparate and disjointed, but they are there and the website seems to be one of them along with USB drive keys, wallet clients and so on.