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September 08, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
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Core collapsing – Bitcoin up?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3jz0iz/gavin_unsubscribes_from_rbitcoin_gavinandresen/cuttufq?context=10

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3jwebt/mike_hearn_on_sidechains_and_blockstream/cut3k4m

http://bitco.in/forum/threads/gold-collapsing-bitcoin-up.16/page-16#post-527

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg60ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
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September 08, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?
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September 08, 2015, 08:27:21 AM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.
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September 08, 2015, 04:33:26 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

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September 08, 2015, 04:51:29 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable.The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin
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September 08, 2015, 04:57:41 PM
Last edit: September 08, 2015, 05:24:24 PM by brg444
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

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September 08, 2015, 05:28:31 PM
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You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its results. Why do you want a block increase anyway?

To make bitcoin ready for future growth in transaction rate. To make room for new users, merchants and use cases. To keep transaction fees competitive and affordable to larger demographic. To give confidence to all actors in bitcoin space that the transaction rate will not be stunted by some artificial cap designed for a completely different purpose. To give an opportunity to Satoshi's vision that the  "eventual solution will be to not care how big it gets". (We wouldn't have bitcoin if he wasn't right in great many things)

Well, that's few reasons I could think just now, but there's probably more.
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September 08, 2015, 05:35:09 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

A majority of speculators (holders) also wants bigger blocks.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

I'm fine with this.

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September 08, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

A majority of speculators (holders) also wants bigger blocks.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

I'm fine with this.

How can you tell?

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September 08, 2015, 05:50:10 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

A majority of speculators (holders) also wants bigger blocks.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

I'm fine with this.

How can you tell?

He can't, it's just speculation.
Well people, spend all your coins on the longest chain supporting bigger blocks.
I'll spend mine on the shorter chain and make sure my coins are backwards compatible. (Or don't spend them at all if there is a block size increase)
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September 08, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
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Don't worry, core is still going strong. There's plenty of people looking to avoid a non consensus fork.

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September 08, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
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And I have just opened a thread yesterday night how the XT fork threads have become rare in the last few days while price started going up. What a weird correlation! And here they come again, the XT threads! Smiley

Honestly, I think that people are tired as well. Who cares what did Gavin do and what did Hearn do anymore? Blocks will be raised, but by the consensus of everybody, or almost everybody, not by the ransom of two guys.
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September 08, 2015, 05:57:35 PM
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I'm not fine with how it's being handled so I continue to run core node with over 70 connections at any given time.
Theres my vote.

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September 08, 2015, 06:02:25 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

A majority of speculators (holders) also wants bigger blocks.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

I'm fine with this.

How can you tell?

He can't, it's just speculation.
Well people, spend all your coins on the longest chain supporting bigger blocks.
I'll spend mine on the shorter chain and make sure my coins are backwards compatible. (Or don't spend them at all if there is a block size increase)


I said that according to this failed troll poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091654.0

And that was not just about bigger blocks but about XT. It says a lot.

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September 08, 2015, 06:06:27 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

A majority of speculators (holders) also wants bigger blocks.



How can you tell?

I said that according to this failed troll poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091654.0

And that was not just about bigger block but about XT. Is says a lot.

Oh I see. Very sharp indeed. I stand corrected







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September 08, 2015, 06:08:29 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

No forum per se I can find just a Google Group.

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September 08, 2015, 06:09:25 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable.The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

And Satoshi wanted it too  Smiley

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September 08, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
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Definitely most people want a block increase. But I think that that it is for no particular technical reason, but because they perceive that raising the block limit will settle things.


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September 08, 2015, 08:55:56 PM
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Don't you have your XT circlejerk forum now? Why don't you stay over there?

It's not about XT. XT is only one of several new proposals to remove the limit.


Yep, and not of them is any relevant until they get into core  Cheesy

Blocksize will be increased.Like or not.Laugh as much as you. We will see bigger Blocks!!It's inevitable. The majority of the community wants it.The big BTC companies want it.Big part of the Miners are in as well.So no doubt. Grin

The "community" you speak of, ie. general redditards and bitcointalk users, are not representative of the bitcoin holders. As such, their opinion is as irrelevant to those of "big BTC companies" (corporate bankers shills trying to capture Bitcoin) and the other power hungry miners who don't know better.

You might get a block increase, but you will be sorely disappointed by its scale and its results.

The most irrelevant users in the bitcoin community will be those who call other users notoriously  'irrelevant', 'sheeps', 'redditards';
the antidemocratic elitists, the banners, the censors;
the warriors with their vulgar language, the DDos'ers; those who notoriously manipulate quotes, fake nodes etc.

There is no way that the mentality of those people will be winning. They are destined to be forked away to cook their own soup.
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September 08, 2015, 10:45:03 PM
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 Already most of people here recognise XT like danger for bicoin,whatdo you want from bitcoin core,everything was going in right direction,maybe slow  but right way.And now XT developers are trying to say that thay came to rescue btc from crash,lies.lies,lies

 
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