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September 08, 2015, 03:35:03 PM
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What do people expect to happen if the coinwallet stress tests start on Thursday and continue through September?

Some people seem to believe it is a storm in a teacup, while others think it could be very disruptive.


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September 08, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
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People who don't pay tiny transaction fees won't get their transactions included in blocks.

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September 08, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
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Some people seem to believe it is a storm in a teacup, while others think it could be very disruptive.

Correct.

If you include a sufficient transaction fee on your transactions, it will be "a storm in a teacup".  Therefore, those people who generally include a sufficient transaction fee correctly believe that's what it will be.

If you do not include a sufficient transaction fee on your transactions, it will be "very disruptive".  Therefore, those people who generally do not include a sufficient transaction fee correctly believe that's what it will be.

There are some wallets that do a good job of calculating an appropriate fee for the conditions on the network.  There are others that do not.  Clearly those that are using wallets that calculate an appropriate fee will find that it is "a storm in a teacup", and those that are using inadequate wallets will find it to be quite disruptive.
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September 08, 2015, 06:55:21 PM
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We will see a lot of users coming to the forums complaining about delayed confirmations, people who know there's a stress test in progress will just pay a higher fee to have their transaction included quickly and life goes on. Smiley

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September 08, 2015, 07:27:01 PM
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Some people seem to believe it is a storm in a teacup, while others think it could be very disruptive.

Correct.

If you include a sufficient transaction fee on your transactions, it will be "a storm in a teacup".  Therefore, those people who generally include a sufficient transaction fee correctly believe that's what it will be.

If you do not include a sufficient transaction fee on your transactions, it will be "very disruptive".  Therefore, those people who generally do not include a sufficient transaction fee correctly believe that's what it will be.

There are some wallets that do a good job of calculating an appropriate fee for the conditions on the network.  There are others that do not.  Clearly those that are using wallets that calculate an appropriate fee will find that it is "a storm in a teacup", and those that are using inadequate wallets will find it to be quite disruptive.

Sure but the reality is also this: It will be impossible for everybody to pay enough fees at the same time to get their transactions included in the next block simply because there isn't enough room for everybody.

There will be delays no matter how smart people are trying to manage the fees.

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September 08, 2015, 07:27:34 PM
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Stress test.. we are all going to be stressed our bitcoin tx's took more than an hour to confirm.

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September 08, 2015, 07:48:30 PM
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Is it right the delayed transactions all go into the mempool? The mempool should rapidly balloon in size if it's full of delayed transactions. How big could it get by the end of September, and could it cause problems for the miners if it gets too big? I don't know much about mining but I remember the last stress test ballooned the mempool's size.
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September 08, 2015, 07:50:37 PM
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How long is it expected to go on? Are we talking about a few days or a couple of weeks? Apologies for being itnorant but didn't read up on it.

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September 08, 2015, 07:54:27 PM
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Stressed man,I be stresssed!!

Time frame for this?
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September 08, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
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Stressed man,I be stresssed!!

Time frame for this?

Planned to take action on sept, 10. They didn't tell how long it will occur but they are aiming 30 days of backlog transaction.

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September 08, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
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I think most people are going to be caught up once in this attack, either receiving or sending coins. Once everyone knows there is an attack, they will avoid sending coins in September or pay higher fees. It's not going to create chaos. I am calling this an attack because it is not a test. There is no hypothesis to prove.
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September 08, 2015, 08:06:35 PM
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i think people are going to start sending less and less transactions,or send with high fees. I'd feel pretty bad if a transaction i sent got stuck in the blockchain.  Cry
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September 08, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
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Is there any method to contribute in "anti-stress test", like "anti-doss", it really will make us very stressful during the stress test.
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September 08, 2015, 08:11:13 PM
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I didn't really pay attention the last time. I don't think I made any transactions during the height of the stress test, but I did make dozens of transactions when there was a considerable backlog in the mempool. 0.0002 fee seemed to do the trick. Didn't lose any sleep over it. Not really worried about the next one.

 
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September 08, 2015, 08:14:45 PM
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I didn't really pay attention the last time. I don't think I made any transactions during the height of the stress test, but I did make dozens of transactions when there was a considerable backlog in the mempool. 0.0002 fee seemed to do the trick. Didn't lose any sleep over it. Not really worried about the next one.

The only thing we should expect is a large amount of noobs coming here complaining that using bitcoin is A. Too costly or B. too long to confirm which both will be true at that time.

I don't see what could go wrong other than that.


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September 08, 2015, 08:19:49 PM
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Well if the really do it and if they do it massively as they are saying they will do it than we will see a huge backlog of the transactions.

More experienced users will check what fee they should send their bitcoins with and they won't have any problems if they send with a fee bigger than what's coinwallet spamming with. The less experienced users that don't know about the stress test or don't know about the fee thing will have major problems.

Looking generally, Bitcoin will be crippled as long as the test is lasting and backlog isn't cleared.
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September 08, 2015, 08:22:09 PM
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I didn't really pay attention the last time. I don't think I made any transactions during the height of the stress test, but I did make dozens of transactions when there was a considerable backlog in the mempool. 0.0002 fee seemed to do the trick. Didn't lose any sleep over it. Not really worried about the next one.

The only thing we should expect is a large amount of noobs coming here complaining that using bitcoin is A. Too costly or B. too long to confirm which both will be true at that time.

I don't see what could go wrong other than that.

A large amount of noobs coming here complaining..... that they don't know how to use bitcoin, or how the technology works -- this seems like a common problem around here. I certainly would not be losing any sleep over it. Tongue

 
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September 08, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
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Might be a problem for certain services if they don't adjust their transactions fees in time. Would suck if you buy "instant bitcoins" and that they only get delivered after a day or two for instance..
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September 08, 2015, 08:36:43 PM
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Might be a problem for certain services if they don't adjust their transactions fees in time. Would suck if you buy "instant bitcoins" and that they only get delivered after a day or two for instance..

Like I said above:

It will be impossible for everybody to pay enough fees at the same time to get their transactions included in the next block simply because there isn't enough room for everybody.

There will be delays no matter how smart people are trying to manage the fees.


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September 08, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
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Stressed man,I be stresssed!!

Time frame for this?

Planned to take action on sept, 10. They didn't tell how long it will occur but they are aiming 30 days of backlog transaction.

Thanks.

I did not really get to much disturbance the last time,so hopefully about the same this time. Fingers crossed.
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