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Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 13, 2015, 03:06:28 PM |
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There isn't anything or anyone that can move bit coin. It's too crippled. Doesn't offer anyone anything except wild speculation over nothing.
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Fakhoury (OP)
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September 13, 2015, 08:57:49 PM |
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Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 13, 2015, 09:03:12 PM |
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Why mand ?
If some random person spots one, the average ATM doesn't tell you what it actually does, or whether you're getting a fair rate and often demands ridiculous stuff like palm scans and multiple forms of ID. Most people would walk away in disgust.
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September 13, 2015, 09:09:15 PM |
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ATMs are not going to take bitcoin into the mainstream. What is the function of an ATM? It's to buy bitcoin. What is the point of owning bitcoin for a newbie if you can't use it and doesn't work better than the cash and credit card he has been using? We need more merchants accepting bitcoin and possibly gives a discount on the next purchase.
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Fakhoury (OP)
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September 13, 2015, 09:10:30 PM |
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Why mand ?
If some random person spots one, the average ATM doesn't tell you what it actually does, or whether you're getting a fair rate and often demands ridiculous stuff like palm scans and multiple forms of ID. Most people would walk away in disgust. Regardless of Antonopoulos's article, I think soon we may see a re-designed ATMs when we start getting more and more mass adoption, do you share the same thoughts with me ?
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Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 13, 2015, 09:13:15 PM |
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Its not a easy experience and hard to gauge how much you will get when visiting a atm.
I use a atm and not only do you get dinged on buying,you also get screwed on the conversion to USD. The rate they say is always off in their favor.
Can already see a atm company taking over here and they charge on the higher end,so once they kill the competition I expect increases in fees and personal info.
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September 13, 2015, 09:14:21 PM |
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I agree that BTMs are not going to be the magic cure to make the use of Bitcoin explode. People need to be more willing to accept Bitcoin. There needs to be more awareness of the currency in general. More corporations need to accept Bitcoin at their franchise stores and online websites. Wikipedia was about as well known in 2003 as Bitcoin is today. Bitcoin I think will be implemented more and the price will take off.
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Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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gentlemand
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September 13, 2015, 09:14:57 PM |
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Regardless of Antonopoulos's article, I think soon we may see a re-designed ATMs when we start getting more and more mass adoption, do you share the same thoughts with me ?
At present most of them aren't good enough so I hope so.
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September 13, 2015, 10:19:42 PM |
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ATMs alone won't be enough. Here's what has to happen: 1. There has to be a way to get coins and 2. buy stuff with them at the store 3. in a way that makes it as easy or easier than using cash or credit card.
Like I can just swipe my phone at the atm put cash in the machine and then swipe my phone at a cash register and not have to keep up to date w/ the block chain, not have to update my wallet every few weeks, not have to back stuff up or memorize a password and still have it be as secure as going through the bank. When the tech is there to make this the reality, we're there.
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September 14, 2015, 01:43:49 AM |
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Localbitcoins works better, ATMs are too legacy, do not fit in a mobile and digital era
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September 14, 2015, 04:32:19 AM |
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in theory it could. but it all depends on how user friendly they are. there are bitcoin atm's that require you to follow a certain amount of annoying and time consuming verification steps in order to get your coins. instant buy would be required in order to keep the majority of people happy.
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September 14, 2015, 07:26:01 AM |
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Localbitcoins works better, ATMs are too legacy, do not fit in a mobile and digital era
This... Why do we make this revolutionary digital currency physical again? Maybe if they loaded the bitcoins directly to your smartphone wallet or something it would make sense. But not by printing some piece of paper.
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September 14, 2015, 09:56:11 AM |
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No I don't think so. BTMs might work as a bridge to lead people from the physical world of money into the new digital world of cryptos. Mainstream acceptance and mass adoption will have to be realized on another route.
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September 14, 2015, 01:04:56 PM |
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ATMs are not going to take bitcoin into the mainstream. What is the function of an ATM? It's to buy bitcoin. What is the point of owning bitcoin for a newbie if you can't use it and doesn't work better than the cash and credit card he has been using? We need more merchants accepting bitcoin and possibly gives a discount on the next purchase.
That is right. When there will be enough merchants acceptation bitcoins, ATMs will start growing everywhere like a mushrooms after rainy day. So it is not that ATMs will push bitcoins into mainstream, but mainstream throw push ATMs all around the world. Even beside your favorite local store.
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September 14, 2015, 01:17:35 PM |
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I think ATMs can help and they're certainly good for awareness and adoption but at the moment they're just a novelty for most as the general public don't really need to use them. Once you can spend your bitcoins at more places they'll become handy and are good for the beginner but we need more merchants first.
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September 14, 2015, 01:24:03 PM |
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Well if two atm machines located at two different counteries and that will facilities easy cross border transfer of funds, then i would say it's yes that it will lead towards mainstream adoption.
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September 14, 2015, 01:42:02 PM |
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Localbitcoins works better, ATMs are too legacy, do not fit in a mobile and digital era
If the rates were the same and there was a local one I'd rather be buying from an ATM. Every time you're dealing with a new seller it's a fresh risk that you're taking.
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LMGTFY
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September 14, 2015, 02:01:21 PM |
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Localbitcoins works better, ATMs are too legacy, do not fit in a mobile and digital era
If the rates were the same and there was a local one I'd rather be buying from an ATM. Every time you're dealing with a new seller it's a fresh risk that you're taking. I love this idea (assuming it's workable): the ATM sets its own rates based on supply and demand, and arbitrage keeps it close to standard market rates. Like gentlemand I'd be happier with one reliable source of BTC (and, if I'm honest, I'd be happy to pay an ATM fee for that convenience. But I'm used to (a) localbitcoins as my sole supplier, and (b) UK ATMs which quite often charge a fee (not often enough to be unavoidable, but they place the fee-charging ones in places where I'm weakest - like the pub).
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