Nick Szabo's Remarks about Bitcoin XT

[Westin Landon Cox]

Nick Szabo was interviewed for Let's Talk Bitcoin Ep. 246 (released yesterday). At the end they discussed the block size debate and the Bitcoin XT fork. Here's a short video with excerpts where he talked about the Bitcoin XT fork:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4_pPkIbGw4

Here are two quotes:

Doing a contentious hard fork is not healthy. It's basically a 51% attack being justified through argument.

I'm just guessing to say that 75% is a large enough number that that forces the rest of the network comply. But if they don't...if you have an ongoing... This is essentially a civil war. It is technologically equivalent to a 51% attack what Hearn and Andresen are doing. And so you essentially have a civil war situation. It will certainly exercise all of Bitcoin's security features...let's put it that way...as any war would.

The full episode is available here:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-246-smart-contracts-with-nick-szabo

[oblivi]

It's nice to see Nick Szabo becoming more active, he was always super secretive. I think I have never heard his voice before this podcast. This man is nothing less of a genius, it makes me think he might as well be Satoshi in the way he addresses stuff. I guess he isn't attending the scaling bitcoin meeting if he did this tho, I had some small hopes of seeing a live debate with him and the rest of experts.

[Westin Landon Cox]

Well, I expect the interview was recorded at least some days ago, if not longer, so Szabo could be at the workshop. I also have a high opinion of Szabo and I'm glad he's speaking out more. Plus since he's come out against XT there are a lot of people willing to swear that he's definitely not Satoshi, in case he ever needs it.

[coinpr0n]

It's nice to see Nick Szabo becoming more active, he was always super secretive. I think I have never heard his voice before this podcast. This man is nothing less of a genius, it makes me think he might as well be Satoshi in the way he addresses stuff. I guess he isn't attending the scaling bitcoin meeting if he did this tho, I had some small hopes of seeing a live debate with him and the rest of experts.

In general all the 'small blockers' are now finally starting to be more active and vocal about the block size debate. For a while there was only promotion by the 'large blockers'. Looks like the other side is getting finally getting their media game up.

[Mickeyb]

Great to hear an opinion of one of the best cryptographers out there. It is essentialy the same opinion as all of as that are against the Bitcoin XT (not against bigger blocks tbough).

I am also glad that I hear another confirmation that we are just not all crazy but that we are very much right.

It's good to see that this XT craziness is calming down a bit. This was a very dangerous potential precedent.

[LiteCoinGuy]

wow, the first Satoshi Audio Podcast  

just imagine he would make a mistake in this podcast and reveal himself with that 

[Mickeyb]

wow, the first Satoshi Audio Podcast  

just imagine he would make a mistake in this podcast and reveal himself with that 

Damn man, you really believe in this, don't you?

[Hydrogen]

Nick Szabo was interviewed for Let's Talk Bitcoin Ep. 246 (released yesterday). At the end they discussed the block size debate and the Bitcoin XT fork. Here's a short video with excerpts where he talked about the Bitcoin XT fork:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4_pPkIbGw4

Youtube clip only has 39 views?!

I guess only 39 people use bitcoin these days.   

[cryptonaut420]

Nick Szabo was interviewed for Let's Talk Bitcoin Ep. 246 (released yesterday). At the end they discussed the block size debate and the Bitcoin XT fork. Here's a short video with excerpts where he talked about the Bitcoin XT fork:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4_pPkIbGw4

Youtube clip only has 39 views?!

I guess only 39 people use bitcoin these days.   

If you look on the letstalkbitcoin.com episode page there is almost 9,000 views already.

[Hydrogen]

If you look on the letstalkbitcoin.com episode page there is almost 9,000 views already.

Proving most bitcoin afictionados are illiterates who read headlines but never look at the fine print?

 

[Carlton Banks]

It's nice to see Nick Szabo becoming more active, he was always super secretive. I think I have never heard his voice before this podcast. This man is nothing less of a genius, it makes me think he might as well be Satoshi in the way he addresses stuff. I guess he isn't attending the scaling bitcoin meeting if he did this tho, I had some small hopes of seeing a live debate with him and the rest of experts.

In general all the 'small blockers' are now finally starting to be more active and vocal about the block size debate. For a while there was only promotion by the 'large blockers'. Looks like the other side is getting finally getting their media game up.

That's just not right.

Everyone wants it to go up, so there is no 'big' vs 'small'

How. That's the question. How do we raise the block limit. That's what the debate is about, and if you listen to what Szabo says, you'll realise you are not correct to characterise him as a small blocker.

[Hydrogen]

..............

Westin.  Landon.  Cox.

Is Landon Cox a new age version of Bart Simpson calling Moe's bar and asking for Ben Dover?

Troll account?

 

if you listen to what Szabo says, you'll realise you are not correct to characterise him as a small blocker.

That's a good point.

His name is "Landon Cox".  Its possible he's just trolling.

[manselr]

It's nice to see Nick Szabo becoming more active, he was always super secretive. I think I have never heard his voice before this podcast. This man is nothing less of a genius, it makes me think he might as well be Satoshi in the way he addresses stuff. I guess he isn't attending the scaling bitcoin meeting if he did this tho, I had some small hopes of seeing a live debate with him and the rest of experts.

In general all the 'small blockers' are now finally starting to be more active and vocal about the block size debate. For a while there was only promotion by the 'large blockers'. Looks like the other side is getting finally getting their media game up.

That's just not right.

Everyone wants it to go up, so there is no 'big' vs 'small'

How. That's the question. How do we raise the block limit. That's what the debate is about, and if you listen to what Szabo says, you'll realise you are not correct to characterise him as a small blocker.

This. I mean it's like some people think the ones that don't want the blocksize raised asap and as high as possible want to be poor? We all want to see Bitcoin go 5 figures man, but we must do it right not compromising Bitcoins decentralizing features in the process. Nick Szabo wants Bitcoin to beat Visa just as much as "big blockers".

[Carlton Banks]

if you listen to what Szabo says, you'll realise you are not correct to characterise him as a small blocker.

That's a good point.

His name is "Landon Cox".  Its possible he's just trolling.

I'm not sure, I think you might have Landon mixed up with the person I replied to?

[LiteCoinGuy]

wow, the first Satoshi Audio Podcast  

just imagine he would make a mistake in this podcast and reveal himself with that 

Damn man, you really believe in this, don't you?

if i have to choose one name, i would say Szabo 

[Rico Suave]

Here are two quotes:

Doing a contentious hard fork is not healthy. It's basically a 51% attack being justified through argument.

I'm just guessing to say that 75% is a large enough number that that forces the rest of the network comply. But if they don't...if you have an ongoing... This is essentially a civil war. It is technologically equivalent to a 51% attack what Hearn and Andresen are doing. And so you essentially have a civil war situation. It will certainly exercise all of Bitcoin's security features...let's put it that way...as any war would.

I like and agree with those two quotes and am glad he said them. I really lost a lot of respect for Hearn and Andresen after they did this.

Oh, did they ask if he was satsohi? 

[_smudger_]

I've always been certain Szabo is Satoshi but even more convinced after hearing the pod-cast. He seems to go out of his way to refer to Satoshi in the third person. Also the fact that no-one really knows much about Szabo shows that here is an individual who is very careful about protecting his identity. I think also that Andreas knows that he is Satoshi - he's almost referential in his questions to Szabo.  

[hdbuck]

Szabo tweeting: "Another design for 2nd layer for small-b bitcoin (+ why large-B Bitcoin won't scale)"

http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/file/716b955c130e6c703fac336ea17b1670/duplex-micropayment-channels.pdf


haha take dat forkers/scalers. ^^

[glub0x]

I've always been certain Szabo is Satoshi but even more convinced after hearing the pod-cast. He seems to go out of his way to refer to Satoshi in the third person. Also the fact that no-one really knows much about Szabo shows that here is an individual who is very careful about protecting his identity. I think also that Andreas knows that he is Satoshi - he's almost referential is his questions to Szabo.  

Well..no.
Satoshi's white paper propose a solution for small casual transaction, just read his introduction.
If Szabo is Satoshi then he changed his mind.

[unent]

I've always been certain Szabo is Satoshi but even more convinced after hearing the pod-cast. He seems to go out of his way to refer to Satoshi in the third person. Also the fact that no-one really knows much about Szabo shows that here is an individual who is very careful about protecting his identity. I think also that Andreas knows that he is Satoshi - he's almost referential is his questions to Szabo.  

So little is known about Szabo. How did Let's Talk Bitcoin know it really was Szabo they were talking to? I tried finding out more about him and kept hitting brick walls. I found about two very old pictures that may or may not have been Szabo. There were differences of opinion about where he used to work and what his qualifications were. His identity is almost as secret as Satoshi's.