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September 20, 2015, 06:52:10 PM
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Whomever purchases these needs to look at the background in those pics.

I wish you well in selling your gear OP and I was interested until I looked at the price and saw the pics.

You cannot keep miners in such conditions and expect them to last long.
Further, you certainly should not keep them in such conditions and then sell them for over top dollar.

Specifically, the lack of filters and high RPM fans on the S4 pull every bit of crap laying around and lay it in patterns across the hash boards. When you have humid periods the moisture mixes with the patterns of filth and becomes further pushed in nooks and corners of components.
Depending on the the exact makeup of the crap you have laying around versus what someone else may have is how fast the break downs start to occur.

Pull one of the S4s at random, pull the covers, and take a magnifying glass to begin viewing the side of the components which would be against the incoming flow of fans and you will begin to see what I mean.

If miners are kept in a dirty, filterless environment then expect to have early death.

Having said that you can clean them up and get filters on them sooner than later.
Unfortunately you cannot stop anything organic, such as rust, but you can stop other, milder organic growth, and remove the lager pieces of buildup.

YMMV, Buyer Beware, and on and on, but I have seen a buddy of mine make the same mistake.
#1 clean the area and keep it clean.
#2 Filter, filter, filter and you still have issues in any home environment, but not as bad as without.

I would be interested if it weren't for price and quality.
These should be priced much lower.

Good Luck and I hope you are clear to people regarding what they are getting.
How long have you had them and how many times have you pulled the covers?

 I am not going to ask if they were kept in a positive or negative pressure environment...

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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September 21, 2015, 03:36:52 AM
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September 21, 2015, 04:24:58 AM
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you take escrow?

I would prefer not to, but if it is an absolute deal-breaker I will consider it.  The only real reason I prefer not to is that I've been scammed very bad on eBay and PayPal before, and with an escrow service the same types of scams can occur.

If you buy, I can send you a copy of my drivers license or something like that.  Then, if you have a problem, I will be very easy to track down.

I can assure you that there is not a single problem with me or any of the miners.  I have sold over 1000 items on eBay, and have 100% feedback with over 250 positive reviews (UserID: Hackintoshseller - you can know it's me because I posted the same ad yesterday)

If I send you a PM from my eBay handle will you reply to yours?
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September 21, 2015, 10:54:07 PM
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you take escrow?

I would prefer not to, but if it is an absolute deal-breaker I will consider it.  The only real reason I prefer not to is that I've been scammed very bad on eBay and PayPal before, and with an escrow service the same types of scams can occur.

If you buy, I can send you a copy of my drivers license or something like that.  Then, if you have a problem, I will be very easy to track down.

I can assure you that there is not a single problem with me or any of the miners.  I have sold over 1000 items on eBay, and have 100% feedback with over 250 positive reviews (UserID: Hackintoshseller - you can know it's me because I posted the same ad yesterday)

If I send you a PM from my eBay handle will you reply to yours?

Sure, not a problem.
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September 21, 2015, 11:54:23 PM
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Whomever purchases these needs to look at the background in those pics.

I wish you well in selling your gear OP and I was interested until I looked at the price and saw the pics.

You cannot keep miners in such conditions and expect them to last long.
Further, you certainly should not keep them in such conditions and then sell them for over top dollar.

Specifically, the lack of filters and high RPM fans on the S4 pull every bit of crap laying around and lay it in patterns across the hash boards. When you have humid periods the moisture mixes with the patterns of filth and becomes further pushed in nooks and corners of components.
Depending on the the exact makeup of the crap you have laying around versus what someone else may have is how fast the break downs start to occur.

Pull one of the S4s at random, pull the covers, and take a magnifying glass to begin viewing the side of the components which would be against the incoming flow of fans and you will begin to see what I mean.

If miners are kept in a dirty, filterless environment then expect to have early death.

Having said that you can clean them up and get filters on them sooner than later.
Unfortunately you cannot stop anything organic, such as rust, but you can stop other, milder organic growth, and remove the lager pieces of buildup.

YMMV, Buyer Beware, and on and on, but I have seen a buddy of mine make the same mistake.
#1 clean the area and keep it clean.
#2 Filter, filter, filter and you still have issues in any home environment, but not as bad as without.

I would be interested if it weren't for price and quality.
These should be priced much lower.

Good Luck and I hope you are clear to people regarding what they are getting.
How long have you had them and how many times have you pulled the covers?

 I am not going to ask if they were kept in a positive or negative pressure environment...

I just saw this, and I'm really not sure what to make of it.  The conditions the miners are in, in the pictures, are not at all as you describe them.  They are not humid environments, nor are they dirty. 
In front of the breaker, the humidity is always about 37%-40%, as there is a big dehumidifier about 6ft away.  As far as dirt goes, I don't really even know where you think it would come from.  There are 3 with asthma in the house, so if the air had dirt floating around in it, it would be well known and taken care of immediately.
In the bay, the area where the miners are was swept before they were put there.  Looking closely I do see a few leaves came in, but I doubt any got to the miners as they seem too far away for that.  As for humidity, the humidity in this area was about 48% all last week.  There is a 25ton, 7-axis custom CMM about 30ft in front of where the miners are.  It cost about 1 million dollars to make, and it is sensitive to temperature, humidity, dust, etc.  The whole room is controlled and monitored for everything, though I will admit that may have been slightly compromised while the door was cracked.
On top of all of this, the miners were only run in these places from 7pm Monday to 9pm Wednesday and Noon Tuesday to 5pm Thursday, to ensure they did not experience any damage during transport, and a final check for no Xs or -s in the ASIC reporting.  I don't think they could have experienced any damage in less than 3 days.  Previously all of the miners were in a server closet type room, which was air conditioned and had an exhaust duct that went out the roof. If you pay attention to the fan grills, you will notice they are all shiny and have no rust. The miners all down now, and will be until they are purchased.
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September 22, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
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4500 for all 10?
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September 23, 2015, 10:12:46 AM
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Whomever purchases these needs to look at the background in those pics.

I wish you well in selling your gear OP and I was interested until I looked at the price and saw the pics.

You cannot keep miners in such conditions and expect them to last long.
Further, you certainly should not keep them in such conditions and then sell them for over top dollar.

Specifically, the lack of filters and high RPM fans on the S4 pull every bit of crap laying around and lay it in patterns across the hash boards. When you have humid periods the moisture mixes with the patterns of filth and becomes further pushed in nooks and corners of components.
Depending on the the exact makeup of the crap you have laying around versus what someone else may have is how fast the break downs start to occur.

Pull one of the S4s at random, pull the covers, and take a magnifying glass to begin viewing the side of the components which would be against the incoming flow of fans and you will begin to see what I mean.

If miners are kept in a dirty, filterless environment then expect to have early death.

Having said that you can clean them up and get filters on them sooner than later.
Unfortunately you cannot stop anything organic, such as rust, but you can stop other, milder organic growth, and remove the lager pieces of buildup.

YMMV, Buyer Beware, and on and on, but I have seen a buddy of mine make the same mistake.
#1 clean the area and keep it clean.
#2 Filter, filter, filter and you still have issues in any home environment, but not as bad as without.

I would be interested if it weren't for price and quality.
These should be priced much lower.

Good Luck and I hope you are clear to people regarding what they are getting.
How long have you had them and how many times have you pulled the covers?

 I am not going to ask if they were kept in a positive or negative pressure environment...

I just saw this, and I'm really not sure what to make of it.  The conditions the miners are in, in the pictures, are not at all as you describe them.  They are not humid environments, nor are they dirty. 
In front of the breaker, the humidity is always about 37%-40%, as there is a big dehumidifier about 6ft away.  As far as dirt goes, I don't really even know where you think it would come from.  There are 3 with asthma in the house, so if the air had dirt floating around in it, it would be well known and taken care of immediately.
In the bay, the area where the miners are was swept before they were put there.  Looking closely I do see a few leaves came in, but I doubt any got to the miners as they seem too far away for that.  As for humidity, the humidity in this area was about 48% all last week.  There is a 25ton, 7-axis custom CMM about 30ft in front of where the miners are.  It cost about 1 million dollars to make, and it is sensitive to temperature, humidity, dust, etc.  The whole room is controlled and monitored for everything, though I will admit that may have been slightly compromised while the door was cracked.
On top of all of this, the miners were only run in these places from 7pm Monday to 9pm Wednesday and Noon Tuesday to 5pm Thursday, to ensure they did not experience any damage during transport, and a final check for no Xs or -s in the ASIC reporting.  I don't think they could have experienced any damage in less than 3 days.  Previously all of the miners were in a server closet type room, which was air conditioned and had an exhaust duct that went out the roof. If you pay attention to the fan grills, you will notice they are all shiny and have no rust. The miners all down now, and will be until they are purchased.

I Believe the miner's are most likely in good working order. As for the conditions they look to be in pretty good shape.

Yes from the pictures they are for sure not kept in the best running conditions. I do not think they where in a 1 million dollar humidity environment. But I think they where kept in a normal house environment or garage environment. The grills do bring some questions though like how long they have been sitting in the garage. I mean the are shiny but the top one has a dead crispy looking bug attached to it. Looks like it has been there awhile. The bottom one also has a packing peanut stuck to it as well. Make it seems the miners where in the garage a lot longer than the seller would like you to know.

I am sure they are in good working order but should they be top priced, no they are used miners regardless where they are kept. Your asking to much and with the new s7's already coming out, this will bring even less people wanting to buy s4's, Why spend 6k on used s4's. Use the 6k to buy brand new s7's. More speed and they are brand new.

I really hope you get what you want out of these unit. but for me they are to high priced.

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September 26, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
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Still some avalaible?
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October 07, 2015, 07:55:05 PM
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I've lowered the price to $560 each.  This is the lowest I can go.  I'm only going this low because I hate having them sitting unused.
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October 09, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
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Rather pay the same price on eBay and enjoy the benefits of real consumer protection.
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October 11, 2015, 07:21:18 PM
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All sold.
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