What happens now that BitcoinXT is essentially dead

[BitcoinEXpress]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

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[knight22]

Dead?

Nope, my XT node is still up and running. 

[BitcoinEXpress]

Dead?

Nope, my XT node is still up and running. 

Like I said, BitcoinXT (GVC) is DEAD.


~BCX~

[RoadStress]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

[erik777]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request? 

[BitcoinEXpress]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request? 

It's called grabbing at straws LOL.

Only the hardcore GVC Fanboys are still pretending this isn't a massive fail.


~BCX~

[Netnox]

All i know is Bitcoin won't grow with this tiny blocksize and some people here are deliberately hindering this for their own benefit, this bs is keeping bitcoin from mooning where companies like fidelity are trying to build on the blockchain and the thing maxes out, even 8 mb is a joke.

[turvarya]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request? 

You just do.
You guys are acting like BitcoinXT was something that never happened before. It may not have happened in the Bitcoin world, but it happens all the time in the Open Source World. So, if their proposal is not accepted by an economic majority, they drop it, and start working on other projects. Business as usual. Nothing dramatic about that.
You guys are just a bunch of retarded fanboys, like in all this stupid iPhone vs. Android wars ...

[brg444]

All i know is Bitcoin won't grow with this tiny blocksize and some people here are deliberately hindering this for their own benefit, this bs is keeping bitcoin from mooning where companies like fidelity are trying to build on the blockchain and the thing maxes out, even 8 mb is a joke.

So what do you propose? 1GB blocks?

"Keeping Bitcoin from mooning"  

Of course!..... It's increasingly obvious greed is what's keeping the majority of you noobs from seeing things clearly.

[Carlton Banks]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

I might be wrong, but I believe it was both Jeff Garzik and Mike Hearn who came up with the bit ID's concept. That seemed like a really great idea (although I believe it was Hearn who was pushing the concept of using passport RFID tokens as the key for the master account for each chain of ID's, which was admittedly a terrible idea)

Ditto the Payments Protocol, not ideal (I disliked the idea intially), but Hearn and Andresen made convincing arguments about that issue (even though that protocol will probably be replaced by something technically superior before it gets much common use).

So it's fair to say that Hearn and Andresen have both come up with as many good ideas as they have bad ones, those are just the ones I like best of theirs.

[unamis76]

XT may be dead now and may die more tomorrow or have a fresh breath... But ideas live on and that's what really matters. If XT fails miserably, they at least achieved something important: people are now talking more seriously about changes in Bitcoin and future disputes will be more softer than this.

XT ideas might end up in Core and others ideas might end up in Core too. We never know tomorrow

As for Gavin and Mike, yes, they can still be taken seriously, as they might have really good ideas in future.

[brg444]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request? 

You just do.
You guys are acting like BitcoinXT was something that never happened before. It may not have happened in the Bitcoin world, but it happens all the time in the Open Source World. So, if their proposal is not accepted by an economic majority, they drop it, and start working on other projects. Business as usual. Nothing dramatic about that.
You guys are just a bunch of retarded fanboys, like in all this stupid iPhone vs. Android wars ...

It really isn't comparable and if you can't see it then it is likely you are part of the "retarded" gang.

[HostFat]

We have to see what will happen with BIP101 (or something better) at the time where the block will be everytime full

[Zarathustra]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Gavin A. goes Peter R.; Bitcoin unlimited:

"In my heart of hearts, I think everything would be just fine if the block limit was completely eliminated. I think actually nothing bad would happen."

[HostFat]

Gavin A. goes Peter R.; Bitcoin unlimited:

Gavin always wanted the unlimited block, he tried to make some compromises with 20 MB first, and 8 MB then.

[MUFC]

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

I'm sure they'll just continue on as usual, unless they get butthurt and throw a paddy. Personally I don't have any respect for them after this stunt. They went about it completely the wrong way.

[erik777]

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

I'm sure they'll just continue on as usual, unless they get butthurt and throw a paddy. Personally I don't have any respect for them after this stunt. They went about it completely the wrong way.

^^-- AGREE

[brg444]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Gavin A. goes Peter R.; Bitcoin unlimited:

"In my heart of hearts, I think everything would be just fine if the block limit was completely eliminated. I think actually nothing bad would happen."

He can't have said this after this weekend's conference. If he did then he's even more of a clown than I thought.

[turvarya]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request? 

You just do.
You guys are acting like BitcoinXT was something that never happened before. It may not have happened in the Bitcoin world, but it happens all the time in the Open Source World. So, if their proposal is not accepted by an economic majority, they drop it, and start working on other projects. Business as usual. Nothing dramatic about that.
You guys are just a bunch of retarded fanboys, like in all this stupid iPhone vs. Android wars ...

It really isn't comparable and if you can't see it then it is likely you are part of the "retarded" gang.

Why is it not comparable? Please enlighten me.

[brg444]

With less than 10% of the nodes and zero mined blocks recently what happens now that BitcoinXT (GVC) is for all practical purposes dead?

What of Gavin and Mike?

Will they still be taken seriously in future projects?


~BCX~

So by this logic should we not take seriously all owners of failed pull requests? Logic = 0!

How do you compare a major fork attempt with a pull request?  

You just do.
You guys are acting like BitcoinXT was something that never happened before. It may not have happened in the Bitcoin world, but it happens all the time in the Open Source World. So, if their proposal is not accepted by an economic majority, they drop it, and start working on other projects. Business as usual. Nothing dramatic about that.
You guys are just a bunch of retarded fanboys, like in all this stupid iPhone vs. Android wars ...

It really isn't comparable and if you can't see it then it is likely you are part of the "retarded" gang.

Why is it not comparable? Please enlighten me.

Because this is a 3B$ economy that depends on trust. Forcing a contentious hard fork for political motives divides the consensus & undermines that trust which puts everyone's money at risk.