Magicaldice.com(Provably fair or not..?)Warning for dicers

[MillionsBTCdev]

Like Stars said, this has been resolved, I accepted his/her apology regarding this matter. I guess BLUE just wanted everyone to know what happened as a future reference "incase" something like this happened again in the future, whether it will be on the same site or other sites.

Looking at the screenshot of the chat conversation tho..

Mod BTC tried to stop Bluewaffle from saying his own opinion on the matter, and said that to let unibtc and stars talk about the issue. AND YET, after some few chats, he strongly, blatantly, blankly accused me of cheating.. There is no proof of this claim of his, neither the admins nor the devs could not prove otherwise. I have given my real life information, my real life finance information and complied to whatever they needed. And yet this mod just shoot away with his accusation. Would you trust a someone like this to be you mod? I wouldn't, then again its just me.

Anyway, for everyone's information, this has been resolved, Stars have apologized, and he/she said other admins will do too once they get online.

There is no cheating nor exploiting that happened, its just a decision made by the admins which is not right and should not happen again.

-unibtc

[Bluewaffle]

Like Stars said, this has been resolved, I accepted his/her apology regarding this matter. I guess BLUE just wanted everyone to know what happened as a future reference "incase" something like this happened again in the future, whether it will be on the same site or other sites.

Looking at the screenshot of the chat conversation tho..

Mod BTC tried to stop Bluewaffle from saying his own opinion on the matter, and said that to let unibtc and stars talk about the issue. AND YET, after some few chats, he strongly, blatantly, blankly accused me of cheating.. There is no proof of this claim of his, neither the admins nor the devs could not prove otherwise. I have given my real life information, my real life finance information and complied to whatever they needed. And yet this mod just shoot away with his accusation. Would you trust a someone like this to be you mod? I wouldn't, then again its just me.

Anyway, for everyone's information, this has been resolved, Stars have apologized, and he/she said other admins will do too once they get online.

There is no cheating nor exploiting that happened, its just a decision made by the admins which is not right and should not happen again.

-unibtc

well said and yup i thought it was something that should be done and something everyone should know about ..hope you dont mind iposted but def felt like everyone should be aware of the incident

[WEBcreator]

Like Stars said, this has been resolved, I accepted his/her apology regarding this matter. I guess BLUE just wanted everyone to know what happened as a future reference "incase" something like this happened again in the future, whether it will be on the same site or other sites.

Looking at the screenshot of the chat conversation tho..

Mod BTC tried to stop Bluewaffle from saying his own opinion on the matter, and said that to let unibtc and stars talk about the issue. AND YET, after some few chats, he strongly, blatantly, blankly accused me of cheating.. There is no proof of this claim of his, neither the admins nor the devs could not prove otherwise. I have given my real life information, my real life finance information and complied to whatever they needed. And yet this mod just shoot away with his accusation. Would you trust a someone like this to be you mod? I wouldn't, then again its just me.

Anyway, for everyone's information, this has been resolved, Stars have apologized, and he/she said other admins will do too once they get online.

There is no cheating nor exploiting that happened, its just a decision made by the admins which is not right and should not happen again.

-unibtc

well said and yup i thought it was something that should be done and something everyone should know about ..hope you dont mind iposted but def felt like everyone should be aware of the incident

good move for you to post this. Even if the problem has been solved it still needs to be posted because it is unnetichal to suddenly change the seed because you suspect someone. If you think there is a hole in the system, fix it and dont change the seed without confirmation

[ndnh]

Now, that is pretty awkward. If the seed was changed, it shouldn't affect what shows up on previous bets.

When the server seed was reset, was the nonce set back to 0?


Admins/Dev shouldn't interfere with the provably fair system. By any interference, they are completely changing the future rolls, and changing the future decisions the player makes.

[Stars]

Now, that is pretty awkward. If the seed was changed, it shouldn't affect what shows up on previous bets.

When the server seed was reset, was the nonce set back to 0?

Our dev messed up and reset the server seed only. He thought that was all that was needed. Regardless, we understand that it was a pretty big mistake. When our dev comes online we will make sure Uni will be able to verify all previous rolls.

[MillionsBTCdev]

Now, that is pretty awkward. If the seed was changed, it shouldn't affect what shows up on previous bets.

When the server seed was reset, was the nonce set back to 0?

Our dev messed up and reset the server seed only. He thought that was all that was needed. Regardless, we understand that it was a pretty big mistake. When our dev comes online we will make sure Uni will be able to verify all previous rolls.

I just did a small run.. and im up 0.7.. So i guess that proves im not cheating..

Tho i have not received any apology from other admins even tho they have went online.. and i also demand an apology from your mod BTC.. thats all =)  

[everaja]

Modification of server-seed is not fair , Site should never interfere in this as it would highly affect the future outcomes of the dice being rolled.
I don't know why you guys did that , if your dev is smart enough then these things should not have happened , the site has been launched two weeks ago and it has been favorite of players but has been in issues even much more.
I must admit that i have played there quite often but the first experience was very much Fair but a recent experience was worst and i guess there has been done a lots of modification for the former to loose.

[MillionsBTCdev]

Another conversation with your very nice mod BTC..



Now i really do demand an apology.  

[jpcfan]

hi blue its cbi. you got 2btc from unibtc and couldnt come by and say hi to me? thanks buddy. friend.


you know if i got 2btc i would have found you and help you out

[Bluewaffle]

hi blue its cbi. you got 2btc from unibtc and couldnt come by and say hi to me? thanks buddy. friend.


you know if i got 2btc i would have found you and help you out

your fuckin kiddin me right now cbi right

[jpcfan]

hi blue its cbi. you got 2btc from unibtc and couldnt come by and say hi to me? thanks buddy. friend.


you know if i got 2btc i would have found you and help you out

your fuckin kiddin me right now cbi right

someone told me unibtc gave you 2 btc. maybe hes fucking with me

[Bluewaffle]

idk who the fuck told you that dude but tell em they need to fuckin check there fuckin facts before they start opening there mouth bro i ever got anything from uni dude idk who the fuck cameup with that bs dude but thats some bs whoever is ut me behind my backlike a bitch would do if someone wanted to ask if uni gave me 2 btc for whatever fuckin reason that thought dawned upon them then they can ask me dude come on now dawg wtf dude foreal

[jpcfan]

i never see you anymore so i posted here. its cool if its not true dont get so fired up about it then. just say it wasnt true.

which you did. case closed


but someone did say that to me blue

[Bluewaffle]

yeah well i just told that idiot right now too and dont start with that bs dude i see you every fuckin day dude not like we werent just talkin a fuckin hour ago like dog really wtf is this stupid shit even about bro like foreal though

[jpcfan]

i thought it was true. seeing you betting today. so its not true. ok then. dont stress over it

[Bluewaffle]

your a fuckin joke a dude

[jpcfan]

your a fuckin joke a dude

lol that makes you even a bigger fucking joke

[Bluewaffle]

haa your not even worth this shit lmao you aint worth the time your nothing but bs anyways say what you want start whatever littlebitch dramayou want lmao ill just sit back and laugh and watch n see how much of pussy you are last thing i need to do is waste time proving my self to a fake ass fuckin shit talkin hater like you but yeah go ahead and run your mouth like the bitch you are see how much i give a fuck

[RHavar]

It should be pretty easy to figure out at what nonce the server seed was changed (just work backwards until the bets doen't verify). And if the site has the original server seed then the bets before that nonce could be verified, which would make sure that the server seed change wasn't hiding unfair bets (that's assuming that unibtc was betting in a reasonably difficult to predict manner) and that it was just a silly mistake  =)


Or even if the site doesn't have the original server seed (which is a concerning red flag), it would still make sense to verify as many of the last bets as possible using the latest server seed and check if a losing streak fell under the latest server seed. If the losing streak happened to fall on unverifiable period, that would be another red flag.


(Although to be honest, I suspect the whole thing is just a silly mistake but the whole point of provably fair is that we can verify not trust)

[yahoo62278]

this thread right here is what makes me skeptical of online gambling sites. manipulating rolls or seeds period is WRONG. if you feel someone is cheating your site you need to address that issue with that user. you dont go fucking with shit trying to prove a point. sure you admitted your actions were wrong and apologized to the user for messing with his shit. BIG DEAL IMO. the actions prove to the rest of us that maybe this shit happens more than we know and we are losing not  just because of bad luck but more because of corruption.

any of you ever notice now n then your rolls start lagging real bad? or other little things?