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September 15, 2015, 09:40:38 PM
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September 15, 2015, 09:45:39 PM
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Your right. BitCoin sholudn't have a leader people follow blindly. BitCoin is for everybody, but I'm thinking Steve Jobs, and look how powerful he was. People would buy anything he says.
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September 15, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
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I think you are overreacting. People will always be people, ready to gossip, talk a lot and to have many conspiracy theories, good or bad ones. That's just in a human nature and I don't think we can escape this. Especially when we don't know who our creator is. I bet this will be hot topic until Bitcoin will exist.

I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley
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September 15, 2015, 09:57:05 PM
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For me , I do not care if satoshi is a man or a woman or a group of developers because he/she did not want to be known so why should I know ?
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September 15, 2015, 09:59:59 PM
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I think you are overreacting. People will always be people, ready to gossip, talk a lot and to have many conspiracy theories, good or bad ones. That's just in a human nature and I don't think we can escape this. Especially when we don't know who our creator is. I bet this will be hot topic until Bitcoin will exist.

I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

Would be really funny if he actually ended up being him Wink

I agree, we shouldn't point fingers at people just to have a face to satoshi.
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September 15, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
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I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

I would also like to point out, that many people on this forum also think Dorian Nakamoto really is Satoshi, as well.
So it doesn't really matter in the long run. Satoshi has fallen into shadow.

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September 15, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
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I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

I would also like to point out, that many people on this forum also think Dorian Nakamoto really is Satoshi, as well.
So it doesn't really matter in the long run. Satoshi has fallen into shadow.
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I think you are overreacting. People will always be people, ready to gossip, talk a lot and to have many conspiracy theories, good or bad ones. That's just in a human nature and I don't think we can escape this. Especially when we don't know who our creator is. I bet this will be hot topic until Bitcoin will exist.

I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

One of the few books I've read cover-to-cover three times and keep on-hand: The Math Gene: How Mathematical Thinking Evolved And Why Numbers Are Like Gossip

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Why is math so hard? And why, despite this difficulty, are some people so good at it? If there’s some inborn capacity for mathematical thinking—which there must be, otherwise no one could do it —why can’t we all do it well? Keith Devlin has answers to all these difficult questions, and in giving them shows us how mathematical ability evolved, why it’s a part of language ability, and how we can make better use of this innate talent.He also offers a breathtakingly new theory of language development—that language evolved in two stages, and its main purpose was not communication—to show that the ability to think mathematically arose out of the same symbol-manipulating ability that was so crucial to the emergence of true language. Why, then, can’t we do math as well as we can speak? The answer, says Devlin, is that we can and do—we just don’t recognize when we’re using mathematical reasoning.
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September 16, 2015, 01:03:04 AM
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People would like to believe in anything and call anyone a god when they run into crisis. I think overall it normal or that is what mankind is all about.

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September 16, 2015, 01:17:51 AM
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There are too many people who are treating some developers or crypto "celebs" as Satoshi, Nick Szabo comes to the front of my mind and too many people are taking his word as Satoshi's. The idea of thinking someone is Satoshi could be bad for us, too many people would blindly follow whatever he said or proposed even when it could be negative for the ecosystem.

For now lets just treat Developers as what they are, helpful people involved with the progress of Bitcoin and keep the whole Satoshi idea out of it.

(Or proposing anyone as a leader, Bitcoin doesn't need that)

I couldn't agree anymore with this sentence

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September 16, 2015, 03:25:38 AM
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ah come on. , no one believes Dorian is satoshi.  find me one person who thinks that.

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September 16, 2015, 05:48:24 AM
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At this moment many of the things Nick Szabo is saying, is the truth. Some people here would gladly dismiss him as being Satoshi, because it does not fit their agenda if he was Satoshi. It is true that we currently have a kind of Civil war going on. Gavin was the previous leader, and now he wants back in. Mike Hearn created the revolution to take over control from the Core guys and Gavin is supporting this.

Nick Szabo might not be Satoshi, but his views and the technology he created <Bit Gold> is the closest to what Satoshi had in mind, when he or they created Bitcoin.

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September 16, 2015, 05:56:48 AM
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I think you are overreacting. People will always be people, ready to gossip, talk a lot and to have many conspiracy theories, good or bad ones. That's just in a human nature and I don't think we can escape this. Especially when we don't know who our creator is. I bet this will be hot topic until Bitcoin will exist.

I have noticed though, that many people on this forum believe Nick Szabo really is Satoshi! Quite funny if you ask me! Smiley

One of the few books I've read cover-to-cover three times and keep on-hand: The Math Gene: How Mathematical Thinking Evolved And Why Numbers Are Like Gossip

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Why is math so hard? And why, despite this difficulty, are some people so good at it? If there’s some inborn capacity for mathematical thinking—which there must be, otherwise no one could do it —why can’t we all do it well? Keith Devlin has answers to all these difficult questions, and in giving them shows us how mathematical ability evolved, why it’s a part of language ability, and how we can make better use of this innate talent.He also offers a breathtakingly new theory of language development—that language evolved in two stages, and its main purpose was not communication—to show that the ability to think mathematically arose out of the same symbol-manipulating ability that was so crucial to the emergence of true language. Why, then, can’t we do math as well as we can speak? The answer, says Devlin, is that we can and do—we just don’t recognize when we’re using mathematical reasoning.


This quote is very inspirational, thank you Smiley

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September 16, 2015, 06:24:14 AM
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At this moment many of the things Nick Szabo is saying, is the truth. Some people here would gladly dismiss him as being Satoshi, because it does not fit their agenda if he was Satoshi. It is true that we currently have a kind of Civil war going on. Gavin was the previous leader, and now he wants back in. Mike Hearn created the revolution to take over control from the Core guys and Gavin is supporting this.

Nick Szabo might not be Satoshi, but his views and the technology he created <Bit Gold> is the closest to what Satoshi had in mind, when he or they created Bitcoin.

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The same argument can be used the other way round.  Szabo is quoted Satoshi because he made his position clear and this position fits their view.


Nobody here want a new paypal, then what?

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In times where there are no true leadership, people will find leadership in the one who bring the truth.  Roll Eyes

Nick Szabo is not a media junky and when he speaks, people listen. The podcast was very informative and many people wanted to know where he sided on this matter. We cannot ignore his opinion because he might

not happen to be Satoshi. We have listened to Gavin / Mike / Wladmir / Peter / Andreas and many other and none of it made more sense, than what Nick said in that single podcast.  Wink

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September 16, 2015, 07:12:45 AM
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we will never know who satoshi really is.
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September 17, 2015, 02:00:01 AM
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Note: When clicking this thread, I thought it was about treating people like money.

Turns out I wasn't too far off.

Anyway, I don't wish to find our bitcoin messiah, I just hope we (the bitcoin community) can learn to handle ourselves. That's what bitcoin stands for, isn't it?

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September 17, 2015, 02:11:07 AM
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I quite recently though Szabo was Satoshi but with all the recent Szabo unprofessional post on twitter, it is clear that he is not Satoshi.

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September 17, 2015, 03:06:00 AM
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I do not think people really would blindly follow Satoshi, I think it just became an icon like Chuck Norris (I hate those stupid discussions about how Cuck Norris can do whatever, but people is free to do/say/write whatever stupid thing they want).

Also, well, I think that as humans we feel attracted for guessing games, and this is a big one.


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September 17, 2015, 03:57:03 AM
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Note: When clicking this thread, I thought it was about treating people like money.

Turns out I wasn't too far off.

Anyway, I don't wish to find our bitcoin messiah, I just hope we (the bitcoin community) can learn to handle ourselves. That's what bitcoin stands for, isn't it?

Peer to peer, no centralization. Even when deciding issues. That's the dream.

Man, going into this thread I thought people had finally realized Satoshi is a Interdimensional Time Traveling AI from the future.  Grin

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