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Author Topic: [PPC] Is Sunny King (of PPCoin) RealSolid (of SolidCoin)?  (Read 4999 times)
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October 16, 2012, 05:25:36 AM
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Well....Sunny King is no Satoshi Nakamoto. Wink

But I suspect not a RealSolid either.

1. Sunny King appears to be more than one person. Go over Sunny's posts and you'll see no less than 2, and IIRC, at least 3 different writing styles. (satoshi is widely suspected to have been a group of people, but had one clear voice in public, the writing is the same throughout satoshi's posts)

2. I've have some discussions with RealSolid, and sunny Kin is nowhere near as butthurt about bitcoin. I've not seen Sunny suggest that any of his detractors are members of the "bitcoin church" or any other stupid solid crap like that.

(would you people quit quoting smoothie? many of us ignore him for a damn good reason, mainly, he has nothing relevant to add, and is a trolling asshat)

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October 16, 2012, 05:28:36 AM
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I'm butthurt because smoothie made me look bad at some point in time...i'm also a bitch.

Stop quoting me guys.... as guruvan said.

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October 16, 2012, 06:13:24 AM
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Please know that a perfect system for freedom of speech actually obligates anonymity. E.g. elections in democratic societies are anonymous.

Uhh the people may cast a vote anonymously, but they are still registered, and the politicians certainly aren't anonymous.

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Now with the development of a public good, like a software infrastructure, the creator only has the obligation to release enough information for things to get peer reviewed. And by being open source, ppcoin also has full filled that requirement.

Whatever, this is just a rationalization. I'm not saying it's a requirement to be known, but the fact that every single "leader" of these crypto knock offs have chosen to be anonymous (except coblee, I think), and it's no coincidence that every single knock off is a pyramid just like the original. Quite debatable that it is a public good, after all, when there is so much potential wealth transfer to be had.

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October 20, 2012, 05:06:45 AM
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Please know that a perfect system for freedom of speech actually obligates anonymity. E.g. elections in democratic societies are anonymous.

Uhh the people may cast a vote anonymously, but they are still registered, and the politicians certainly aren't anonymous.
Are you suggesting that the developers of a cryptocurrency should be compared to politicians?

Now with the development of a public good, like a software infrastructure, the creator only has the obligation to release enough information for things to get peer reviewed. And by being open source, ppcoin also has full filled that requirement.

Whatever, this is just a rationalization. I'm not saying it's a requirement to be known, but the fact that every single "leader" of these crypto knock offs have chosen to be anonymous (except coblee, I think), and it's no coincidence that every single knock off is a pyramid just like the original. Quite debatable that it is a public good, after all, when there is so much potential wealth transfer to be had.
The minting rate is biased towards early adopter profits. However, AFAIK that's a necessity, since it provides an incentive to invest into mining infrastructure at an accelerated rate. The public good aspect is not related to the wealth transfer in bootstrapping the currency, but to it's sustained features.

Which also reminds me of one of the fundamental problems of cryptocurrencies which still has to be resolved. The reward system does not have incentives for cryptocurrency maintenance and improvement. The only incentive developers have is to implicitly benefit from the super-early adopter advantage and hold on to those shares until the cryptocurrency has matured and they can simply act benevolently. However, that doesn't protect the currency from being abandoned by the core developers (pump&dump).
I think they tried to fix this with devcoin.

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October 20, 2012, 06:39:49 AM
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Are you suggesting that the developers of a cryptocurrency should be compared to politicians?

wtf bro, you brought it up

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The minting rate is biased towards early adopter profits. However, AFAIK that's a necessity, since it provides an incentive to invest into mining infrastructure at an accelerated rate. The public good aspect is not related to the wealth transfer in bootstrapping the currency, but to it's sustained features.

It isn't just biased towards early adopter profits, it's biased against a well-functioning currency. Deflation is stupid, especially at the insane levels required for the bitcoin-ilk to achieve any remote amount of currency market share. It is too early to tell and I'm not about to spend time reading the PPC code or envisioning future scenarios for it, but it seems like it will be even more early-adopter heavy than bitcoin.

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Which also reminds me of one of the fundamental problems of cryptocurrencies which still has to be resolved. The reward system does not have incentives for cryptocurrency maintenance and improvement. The only incentive developers have is to implicitly benefit from the super-early adopter advantage and hold on to those shares until the cryptocurrency has matured and they can simply act benevolently. However, that doesn't protect the currency from being abandoned by the core developers (pump&dump).

Tying the cost to produce something more than just supply and demand would be a start. :cough decrits: Tongue

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October 24, 2012, 06:41:35 AM
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PS At the moment I do not wish to answer questions related to my identity/privacy. So I will ignore all such questions for now.
He just asked if your the SolidCoin guy, nothing else! He didnt ask for ur Realname, Age, Creditcard or whatever!
The denial to talk about the relation of you and RealSolid just prooves that you are it (simple logic!). Someone would only deny this if he knows his Name/Others would be known trough RealSolid. Therefore u just proved that u are RealSolid.

After all i dont care about who you are, all i want to tell you is: there is no reason to hide this! hiding it just makes PPCoin more shady. Be a man and stand for ur mistakes!

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October 24, 2012, 06:50:50 AM
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#altcoinproblems
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October 26, 2012, 06:34:22 AM
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#altcoinproblems

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December 06, 2012, 07:28:53 AM
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He just asked if your the SolidCoin guy, nothing else! He didnt ask for ur Realname, Age, Creditcard or whatever!
The denial to talk about the relation of you and RealSolid just prooves that you are it (simple logic!). Someone would only deny this if he knows his Name/Others would be known trough RealSolid. Therefore u just proved that u are RealSolid.

After all i dont care about who you are, all i want to tell you is: there is no reason to hide this! hiding it just makes PPCoin more shady. Be a man and stand for ur mistakes!

Exactly, using simple logic we can show that Sunny King is probably Real Solid. Case closed. The prosecution rests. You only live once.
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