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September 22, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
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Anyone got any ideas how we can raise funds ?

Currently I can get "mission patches" to give out to people and "send your name to space" and "your name on a contribution website"
If some interesting instruments such as a camera are included then maybe saying a reward is to get access to that instrument.

That wold be a good idea, there are some Good cameras Designed for Cubesats, but we have to consider the power consumption, but then again, there's always a option to add another 1U for extras
I think the satellite would need to be 2U in order to have enough space for everything. It looks like a raspberry pi, backup computer, hard drive and batteries would take up most of the space in a 1U.

yeep, we either go with a 2U or ditch a few Units.

good thing is that a 2u is not at all that much more expensive then a 2u.

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September 22, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
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with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.

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September 22, 2015, 08:09:30 PM
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When you say
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with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.

Yea that's what I mean, I know it's a challenge, it truly is, but there tens of thousands brilliant minds here and I'm sure we can figure it out together.

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September 22, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?


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September 22, 2015, 08:16:02 PM
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When you say
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with 0 or close to 0 commercial satellite parts
do you mean that you want this to be built with off-the-shelf hardware instead of getting parts from companies that make stuff for cubesats? If so, I think that will be kind of hard to do since the parts might not be space ready and interfacing them together with space ready parts might be difficult.

Yea that's what I mean, I know it's a challenge, it truly is, but there tens of thousands brilliant minds here and I'm sure we can figure it out together.
I think the only commercial satellite parts that we need are the chassis, solar panels, and shielding. We might need reaction wheels depending on the instruments on it and maybe a control computer if the raspi doesn't work for controlling it. Also, the raspi will need to have parts directly soldered do it because using the pins and plugging things in will most likely end up with things falling out.

The radio might also need to be a commercial satellite part.

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September 22, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

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September 22, 2015, 08:18:43 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats

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September 22, 2015, 08:21:00 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?


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September 22, 2015, 08:23:57 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?
Sure it can. It can send data to and from the ground stations. The ground stations can then relay the data to the rest of the network. And vice cersa.

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September 22, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
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How do you plan to cover the earth? I mean only one satellite can't broadcast all surface of the earth.
Also I highly recommend you to contact with DSI ( http://deepspaceindustries.com/ )
According to Jgarzik's project, only 1 satellite costs 1 mil $. How to fund it?
I suggested earlier in the thread that we use a network of multiple ground stations set up by volunteers around the world in order to have constant connection to the satellite.

You beat me to it knightdk!

Those numbers of 1 million are way way off for 1/2U Cubesats
Ground stations are ok but how will your satellite distribute the blockchain all surface of the world simultaneously? You can send BC Data & keep synced up with the network from the ground stations but won't it broadcast individuals' tx'es etc?
Sure it can. It can send data to and from the ground stations. The ground stations can then relay the data to the rest of the network. And vice cersa.
Ah ok. I got it now, there'll be only 1 satellite and while it's orbiting it'll share data with ground stations bidirectionally.


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September 23, 2015, 07:48:25 AM
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September 23, 2015, 08:08:01 AM
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DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.

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September 23, 2015, 08:19:09 AM
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DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.


Please read the whole thread, we've already talked about this.

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DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.


Please read the whole thread, we've already talked about this.

My comment adresses exactely the part in the thread where you "already talked about it".


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September 23, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
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DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Sending a satellite to space - even if it "only" is a cubesat - requires a lot more expertise than just building a radiation-resistant RPi. That explains why even an intelligent guy like Jeff Garzik has contracted industry specialists to provide parts and help with the design.

From what I've read so far I'm not convinced that the thread starter has the necessary technological knowledge to achieve success on his own. I also doubt he will attract professional talent, because the project seems to be just centered around a spontaneous "Wouldn't it be somehow cool to have a Bitcoin satellite in space?"-fantasy and therefore lacks a proper goal definition.

No you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy, but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

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September 23, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
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DSI has been working on a very similiar project for a few years (http://deepspaceindustries.com/bitcoin-pioneer-inks-contract-for-satellite-constellation/).

Instead of showing interest and possibly finding synergies with this existing project, curiously, OP completely dismissed it.

Building from scratch is the worst enemy of entrepreneurs and OP doesn't sound like having any experience in this space.

This project is not going to go anywhere.

I'm afraid I have to agree. Sending a satellite to space - even if it "only" is a cubesat - requires a lot more expertise than just building a radiation-resistant RPi. That explains why even an intelligent guy like Jeff Garzik has contracted industry specialists to provide parts and help with the design.

From what I've read so far I'm not convinced that the thread starter has the necessary technological knowledge to achieve success on his own. I also doubt he will attract professional talent, because the project seems to be just centered around a spontaneous "Wouldn't it be somehow cool to have a Bitcoin satellite in space?"-fantasy and therefore lacks a proper goal definition.

No you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy, but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Now prove me wrong. Cheesy

ya.ya.yo!

Hey thanks for your Feedback! as me and knightdk discussed earlier on, we probably will not use the RPI as the main computer but rather a NanoMind A712D in case the RPI wold fail.

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September 23, 2015, 12:50:17 PM
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Twitter account is gaining followers, may i suggest? the 2U sat sounds good, more room for more equipment, Power and batteries.
a good option wold be ''expandable solar panels'' something like this

you could fit a few more panels then

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September 23, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
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Making critical feedback is very valuable, for the ones who listen.

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but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Please don't donate anything to this shady project, it would be a pure waste. Less shiny but much more valuable projects out there to work on.

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September 23, 2015, 01:28:46 PM
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you can all tell me that I'm the evil, always negative guy

Making critical feedback is very valuable, for the ones who listen.

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but I will still say: You can donate a lot of funds to this project, but please don't expect a result.

Please don't donate anything to this shady project, it would be a pure waste. Less shiny but much more valuable projects out there to work on.

this project is open for anyone, you don't even need to donate anything, you could even build helpful components back at home, or just share valuable information and ideas

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I think its a very cool venture and wish you the best of luck. Anything that raises awareness of BTC in my books is a good thing. Especially if its in a good way Smiley


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