Smooth VS VNL

[jimlite]

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

"The fact that Michael Jordan would even acknowledge and talk about Gerald Wilkins shows that "The Jordan Stopper" is the real deal. Do you think Jordan would even converse with Allan Houston or bench player #53? I highly doubt he converses with the hundreds of other clown players." --stuff idiot fan says

No, but I play basketball, and there is no way in hell Michael Jordan would talk to me about basketball strategy. And I used to code a bit, but there is no way in hell gmaxwell or smooth are going to debate code with me. I am insignificant in basketball or coding, john connor is not (well maybe in basketball). All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor, then VNL is a worthy coin. Whether it is the ZeroTime instant transfers without master nodes, security, or super peer code, there are real improvements or innovations that they see and that bitcoin or other alts lack.

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[smooth]

All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor

I can't speak for gmaxwell but I'm not debating anything with j-c. I saw someone else's allegations (not gmaxwell's, someone else's on an alt thread) of misappropriation of the code, looked into it and found it to be a correct accusation. That is the sole extent of my "involvement" here.

[ocminer]

I've been coding the RPC side of the coin with John "on-the-fly" in IRC .. I was coding the pools side, while he integrated the calls into the daemon.

We did that over several hours/days and also latter anti-ddos mechanisms and other stuff were/was integrated while "talking" in IRC to each other, he's certainly no "copy&paste" coder like many, many others, I can vouch for his skills, I've worked with him together several times already, he knows what he's doing.

[generalizethis]

The fact that gmaxwell would even acknowledge and talk about john-connor shows that vnl dev is the real deal.
Do you think gmaxwell would even converse with Karsen or shitcoin #968 dev? I highly doubt he converses with
the hundreds of clown clone devs.

"The fact that Michael Jordan would even acknowledge and talk about Gerald Wilkins shows that "The Jordan Stopper" is the real deal. Do you think Jordan would even converse with Allan Houston or bench player #53? I highly doubt he converses with the hundreds of other clown players." --stuff idiot fan says

No, but I play basketball, and there is no way in hell Michael Jordan would talk to me about basketball strategy. And I used to code a bit, but there is no way in hell gmaxwell or smooth are going to debate code with me. I am insignificant in basketball or coding, john connor is not (well maybe in basketball). All I am saying is obviously if gmaxwell and smooth find points to debate with john connor, then VNL is a worthy coin. Whether it is the ZeroTime instant transfers without master nodes, security, or super peer code, there are real improvements or innovations that they see and that bitcoin or other alts lack.

Get your comparisons straight:

--dev equals dev

--professional bb player equals professional bb player

--random fan boy on bct does not equal dev anymore than a guy playing at a YMCA equals a professional bb player.

Like a professional bb player who gets some undeserved hype, a dev (especially a dev who seeks out the confrontation) who isn't what he claims deserves to be put in his place by his betters.

[iCEBREAKER]

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects.  Ditto John Corzine and Ken Lay.  Your faulty logic is intentionally misleading.

VanillaCoin is a scam based on stolen (using FOSS without attribution is theft) code.  They got caught red-handed.

Gmax and smooth have done the community a great favor by busting this scam before more people are hurt by it.

[bigfryguy]

ok, so only devs in here so far, are smooth and ocminer......  smooth says he has no idea whether John is or is not good at what he does
ocminer says John does know what hes doing

fan boys... blah blah blah blah entertainment....

I guess that means John-Conner knows what he is doing.

useless thread, it just let us all know what we already knew.

[john-connor]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

Thank you for your support.

[smooth]

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects.

Didn't he (or at least his business) play a large role in inventing and developing NASDAQ? I'm not even kidding.

Accomplishments and ability have no particular negative correlation with scamming. If anything the correlation might be positive because it makes the scams more convincing.

[bigfryguy]

always amazed that it is the same three crusaders that show up to every FUDD thread based around competitors coins on poloniex...

bet Karma has given you guys some nasty Carpel tunnel by now.

[BagHolder010]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0

Thank you for your support.

Smooth dares to call out people for copy pasting now? LOOOOOOOOOL....I Guess he is jealous of anyone with coding skills something not only Smooth can't comprehend but all the 30 Monero developers who can't do shit for a year and half alrdy.

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

[proletariat]

Connor has a lot more miles to his name in the p2p and cryptography world... more so in the p2p field years before bitcoin was invented. Try doing some research, googling and connecting the dots. The guy has been part of huge projects.

Bernie Madoff was also part of huge projects.

Didn't he (or at least his business) play a large role in inventing and developing NASDAQ? I'm not even kidding.

Accomplishments and ability have no particular negative correlation with scamming. If anything the correlation might be positive because it makes the scams more convincing.

wow you guys using the Bernie Madoff ammo in your replies eh?  .... his involvement was not in the business side of things but in the coding innovation part of things - that's what I got from google anyhow. could be wrong though, but multiple google hits pointed in that direction.....

[solid12345]

Personally I don't care if a coin is cobbled together by a dozen children in a sweatshop if it works better and does more than all the others.

Crypto is one of the few subcultures where people get more wound up over the origins of something then the actual end use case.

[EmilioMann]

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

[smooth]

This is is just full of Monero haters hating everywhere as always.

And now the usual Monero-hater suspects from Dash. Welcome.

[smooth]

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or getting anything else but sure you can try to twist it to shill your favorite coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillmyfavcointalk.org.

[iCEBREAKER]

Vanilla suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

How is bringing public attention to Vanilla's stolen (ie refactored/unattributed) code a "fud attack?"

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting hot"

lol rekt

[EmilioMann]

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or anything else but sure you can twist it to shill your coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillcointalk.org.

c'mon man, what are you doing here acting like a kid?
Go take care of "your" coin and leave the others in peace.

Vanilla suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

How is bringing public attention to Vanilla's stolen (ie refactored/unattributed) code a "fud attack?"

stolen? an open source?

[smooth]

WOW
Vanilla is getting hot.
Suffering fud attack from bitcoin coredev, xmr dev and one of the masters fuddsters of bctalk: icebreaker

gmaxwell's post was from January. Mine was over a month ago. None of this has to do with anything "getting" hot or anything else but sure you can twist it to shill your coin. Wouldn't expect anything less from shillcointalk.org.

c'mon man, what are you doing here acting like a kid?
Go take care of "your" coin and leave the others in peace.

Maybe it has something to do with name being mentioned in the thread title?

Other than that I have no recent involvement or interest in any of this.

If you are wondering why this is being brought up again now, ask the thread starter.

[smooth]

stolen? an open source?

Open source licenses have conditions. Bitcoin's license has very few conditions indeed -- you can do almost any damn thing you want with it legitimately -- but one of few it does have is retaining the attribution.

[bigfryguy]

its funny, seeing the fud attacks is almost starting to become an indicator of when to buy