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September 22, 2015, 06:16:54 AM
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A senior Pentagon official admitted to the Washington Free Beacon late Monday that Afghan forces allied with U.S. troops in the war-torn country have been caught sexually abusing children.

The admission comes on the heels of reports that the Obama administration has been punishing U.S. soldiers who blew the whistle on this sexual abuse.

U.S. lawmakers early Monday expressed shock and outrage over the report and called on Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Join Chiefs of Staff, to immediately address a policy of ordering U.S. troops to ignore such sexual abuse.

When asked about the practice, a Pentagon official admitted that such abuse was taking place but denied that there is an official policy that instructs U.S. troops to ignore it.

“This is an abhorrent practice, and we are deeply concerned about it,” the official told the Free Beacon. “This form of sexual exploitation of children is a violation of Afghanistan’s laws and international obligations.

“There is no policy in place that directs any U.S. military or government personnel overseas to ignore human rights abuses,” the official said. “On the contrary, we monitor such atrocities closely and have continually stood up for those who have suffered exploitation and denial of basic human freedoms.”

The official did not explicitly deny that U.S. troops who reported abuses had been punished.

In the current environment, such abuses by Afghans working with the United States fall under governance of country’s domestic laws, according to the official.

“Generally, child sexual abuse is a matter of domestic law, unless the activity constitutes a gross violation of human rights (GVHR) or a violation of the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC),” the official said.

If Afghans engage in sexual abuse that is witnessed by U.S. personnel, reports are forwarded “up the chain of command” for further review, the official explained.

“That said, consistent with clear [Department of Defense] policy on the issue of sexual assault, trafficking in persons, and similar matters, Commander U.S. Forces-Afghanistan expects all personnel to treat others with respect and dignity and expects that any suspicions of sexual abuse are immediately reported up the chain of command,” the Pentagon said.

“Any sexual abuse, no matter who the alleged perpetrator and no matter who the victim, is completely unacceptable and reprehensible,” the official added.

The United States has worked to train Afghan forces to respect “human rights” and not to engage in the sexual abuse of children, the official further said.

“Both our annual Trafficking in Persons report and our Human Rights Report on Afghanistan have noted this form of child sexual abuse, and training of Afghan law enforcement has focused on human rights in order to improve reporting and accountability,” the official said. “We continue to urge the Afghan government to strengthen enforcement of its laws.”

The White House on Monday declined to address reports first issued by the New York Times that U.S. troops were being punished for exposing the sexual abuse of children.

“For the rules of engagement and the kind of structure that’s in place to guide the relationship between the United States and Afghan members of the military, I’d refer you to the Department of Defense for that,” the White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters.

In several instances, U.S. soldiers could hear child rape occurring, but they were “told to ignore these events because it’s part of Afghanistan’s ‘culture,’” according to the Washington Examiner.

Rep. Vern Buchanan (R., Fla.) expressed shock and dismay at the reports in a letter sent to Defense Secretary Ash Carter and Dempsey.

“I urge you to immediately reverse the Pentagon’s shameful policy of punishing soldiers who try to stop the sexual abuse of children in Afghanistan,” Buchanan wrote in a letter to Dempsey that describes “a chilling policy that told American soldiers to look the other way when Afghan allies sexually abused young boys, sometimes on military bases.”

“American soldiers serving our nation in the Army and Marines in Afghanistan have been told to stand down when encountering child sexual abuse perpetrated by local allies,” Buchanan writes. “Protecting child predators is abhorrent and inconsistent with our values as a nation. I call on you to end this shameful policy immediately.”


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-admits-u-s-allied-afghans-are-raping-children/


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September 22, 2015, 03:12:42 PM
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White House on Afghan child rape cases: We dunno



Yesterday we talked about the breaking (and heartbreaking) story of the pedophile child rapes which are common practice among Afghan military leaders and how American forces were allegedly forbidden to stop them. At that time I pointed out that the immediate questions to be answered were who instituted the policy, how long has it been going on and who knew about it? Reporters brought the issue to Josh Earnest at the White House presser and the answers they got were less than satisfying. (Washington Examiner)

The White House dodged questions Monday about allegations that U.S. military officials are ordering U.S. soldiers to ignore child abuse in Afghanistan committed by Afghan militia, military and police, and instead indicated that those orders reflect Defense Department policy that the White House is not reviewing.

“For the rules of engagement and the kind of structure that’s in place to guide the relationship between the United States and Afghan members of the military, I’d refer you to the Department of Defense for that,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

Earnest was pressed further to say whether President Obama is looking to review that policy in light of a New York Times story outlining how soldiers were powerless to help child rape victims in Afghanistan, and got in trouble with their superiors if they tried. To that, Earnest said, “Not that I’m aware of.”



This isn’t some question of fast response decisions by ground forces to an immediate crisis. It’s a question of policy. Given that as the backdrop, why is this inquiry being referred to the DoD? Surely by this time Mr. Earnest is aware that the President is the head of the military and all policy exists only with his approval, whether tacit or explicit. To be clear, I don’t expect the President of the United States to have every single rule in place within the military memorized to the point where the amount of dishwasher detergent issued to each mess hall requires a memo with his signature on it. But by the same token, when a “policy” of such a provocative nature is brought to his attention we expect him to either act on it or defend it.

Also, there seems to be a clear effort here to wipe away any sense of accountability by essentially saying, this is a local issue. From a more sterile, legalistic approach, anything that takes place on a United States military facility – even one in a foreign nation – is not a strictly local issue. We are responsible for and in control of what happens on our bases. When you add in the outrage factor which arises from our own alleged allies raping children and bragging about it, the sin is compounded to the Nth degree.

Then we come to the question of what will happen to Sergeant First Class Charles Martland. He is the second soldier who assisted in beating up one of the child rapists and is scheduled to be drummed out of the service in November. When reporters took the question to the Department of Defense they were pretty much stonewalled.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said there is no policy that prohibits U.S. troops from reporting human rights violations like the ones described in the New York Times article to their chain of command, but that any allegations would be dealt with by local Afghan officials.

“What’s talked about in this, while abhorrent, is fundamentally an Afghan law enforcement matter and those are reports that are given to the Afghan government,” Davis said.

Davis had no information on the specific case mentioned in the article of a U.S. service member being reprimanded for beating up an Afghan commander who had a child sex slave chained to his bed.


That’s just a dodge. There may not be a policy against “reporting a human rights violation” but if those reports are immediately filed in the trash bin there isn’t much point to doing it. The real question is whether or not we have a “policy” of punishing our own troops when they intervene in a ghastly crime. Does the Pentagon really think that saying they have no information on Marland’s case is going to hold? The clock is ticking and the Sergeant already has a lawyer who is willing to talk to the press. This sounds like on of those cases where we’re simply going to have to rely on the mainstream media reporters to ferret out some folks who are willing to talk and spread some sunshine on this situation.

I may be getting old, but it seems to me that there was a time when we would pin a medal on somebody who beat up a child rapist and saved the kid. Heck.. we’d probably throw him a parade. If we’ve reached the point where we instead wind up terminating his career then the cart has surely gone off the rails.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/22/white-house-on-afghan-child-rape-cases-we-dunno/



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September 23, 2015, 08:40:13 PM
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I am big supporter of purges... in this case the chain of command must be accountable. And to settle the score a multi-tapping on the perpetrators, his family, his healthcare and his burial team should be taken into account...

the savages, beyond the wall.

but then, and again, it poses the question of cultural relativity, ie human flesh is a question of taste?

my answer: the savages, beyond the wall.

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September 23, 2015, 09:19:40 PM
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I don't agree with myself Wink. I think that effectively those having beaten the afghan should be bear a blame, only beaten with a child chained to his bed? straight execution, no discussion. forward. 
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September 23, 2015, 10:47:27 PM
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For the children.   Smiley

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September 24, 2015, 12:23:38 AM
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Seems democratic enough.
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"What does it matter" anyone? I´m sure that mantra is being repeated around this issue. It´s our team.

Some guy I´m talking with on another thread claims that it doesn´t matter where ISIS came from. Well, it matters to me. I think the people who created it should be tried for mass murder and war crimes. But I guess if that includes some US officials it doesn´t matter to people that always root for their team no matter what.

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September 24, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
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For the children.   Smiley

always.

then it's always less costly to tatoo the guy on his head with his deed, and send him beyond the wall (aka taliban country), justice will be express...

that remember me the rotherdam (uk) saga, same kind of people...

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September 24, 2015, 01:56:24 PM
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For the children.   Smiley

always.

then it's always less costly to tatoo the guy on his head with his deed, and send him beyond the wall (aka taliban country), justice will be express...

that remember me the rotherdam (uk) saga, same kind of people...



I don't know if this will be seen as a punishment if it is part of their culture...


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September 24, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
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For the children.   Smiley

always.

then it's always less costly to tatoo the guy on his head with his deed, and send him beyond the wall (aka taliban country), justice will be express...

that remember me the rotherdam (uk) saga, same kind of people...



I don't know if this will be seen as a punishment if it is part of their culture...




This crap is allied with our team so

what does it matter. End of story.

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September 24, 2015, 03:07:25 PM
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This sort of thing is hard to avoid during war in general. US allied soviets raped many german women during world war 2.
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September 24, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
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This sort of thing is hard to avoid during war in general. US allied soviets raped many german women during world war 2.

The Soviet military wasn´t auxiliary forces of the U.S. so this comparison isn´t really relevant.

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This sort of thing is hard to avoid during war in general. US allied soviets raped many german women during world war 2.

The Soviet military wasn´t auxiliary forces of the U.S. so this comparison isn´t really relevant.

Well, it demonstrates that rape is hard to avoid during wartime. This is, perhaps, more relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France

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This sort of thing is hard to avoid during war in general. US allied soviets raped many german women during world war 2.

The Soviet military wasn´t auxiliary forces of the U.S. so this comparison isn´t really relevant.

Well, it demonstrates that rape is hard to avoid during wartime. This is, perhaps, more relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France
What the heck.It should be stopped

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September 24, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
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People will always search for excuses for their team. And they´ll excuse why their team uses crap. It´s never about hmmmm, maybe there´s something wrong with my team why does it use this crap I don´t really believe that this is a first probably has been going on forever, someone leaked it and that someone is going to jail later for being a whistleblower.

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September 24, 2015, 04:54:42 PM
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In Pakistan and Afghanistan, and some parts of India (especially in areas inhabited by the Pashtuns), males without a beard are considered to be equivalent to females. Sex with a women other than your spouse is punishable by death in these areas. However, sex with boys is tolerated, and is not viewed as a punishable offence.
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September 24, 2015, 05:46:20 PM
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This crap is allied with our team so

what does it matter. End of story.

the greatest nation on earth deserves the greatest army on earth. 101.
errors are made to be corrected...
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This crap is allied with our team so

what does it matter. End of story.

the greatest nation on earth deserves the greatest army on earth. 101.
errors are made to be corrected...

Yeah yeah, it was sarcasm.


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