How FAIR are those provably fair games?

[JackpotRacer]

I don't have a huge confidence in all the gambling I mostly use the sports betting because if you know that which will be suitable for you then only you can make the money from gambling field so use it more properly for your talent.

google FunFair and you will see what provably fair means!

[imstillthebest]

google FunFair and you will see what provably fair means!

i googled it and this is the meaning > funfair - a fair consisting of rides, sideshows, and other amusements .

i think you miss heard the title . the title says fair , not funfair .   op is asking for the fairness of gambling games  .

I don't have a huge confidence in all the gambling

same here  .  but not only us , most of us do  . others do also feel the same  . gambling is verry unpredictable  , you wont know if you win or loose  . that what makes you loose confidence  .

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

[JackpotRacer]

google FunFair and you will see what provably fair means!

i googled it and this is the meaning > funfair - a fair consisting of rides, sideshows, and other amusements .

i think you miss heard the title . the title says fair , not funfair .   op is asking for the fairness of gambling games  .

sorry mate it looks I should have posted the link
but when I googled it the first result was - Game-changing blockchain casino technology - FunFair -
https://funfair.io

please take a look cause this is the best solution ever if they deliver. I met them at the ICE in London

cheers

[Johnyz]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

We cannot blame them if you think its unfair for you to lose always, but this is what gambling are and its the house goal to make profit from every gambler. Though we may feel sometimes that its unfair because were supposed to win and yet the machine decline it so technically that's how the house works.

[el kaka22]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

You can go for checking their seed at each and every time to make sure that you are gambling in a fair environment and when you gambling house is a registered one and you are finding problems with their seeds then you may go for filing sue against them and the rest must be proved in the court to punish them for rigging the gambling environment in favor of them.

This is the reason, we should gamble only with fully licensed gambling house. But, now a days people are even ready to gamble even with a discord bot too. Playing only with famous and highly reputed house will solve all our hassles as no gambler might not be having enough time to cross check all the seeds, he does gamble with.

[AmoreJaz]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

You can go for checking their seed at each and every time to make sure that you are gambling in a fair environment and when you gambling house is a registered one and you are finding problems with their seeds then you may go for filing sue against them and the rest must be proved in the court to punish them for rigging the gambling environment in favor of them.

This is the reason, we should gamble only with fully licensed gambling house. But, now a days people are even ready to gamble even with a discord bot too. Playing only with famous and highly reputed house will solve all our hassles as no gambler might not be having enough time to cross check all the seeds, he does gamble with.

thats the best way to play with these games. diligently choose your sites before sending any penny to them.
 and no one can beat by choosing the reputable ones with known fair systems.
  and tbh cross checking the seeds would take so much of your time, so very few are doing this unless they started to doubt the system of the site.

[louisedem]

Can you really trust all the dice and gambling sites with provably fair games? Or are they all rigged?

Probably they are fair. It is just that the chances or luck is not just always fair for us. Since gambling is an application of probability in a game, chances of winning is not always present that is why maybe you are doubting about the credibility of the fair games they have. You just need to be wise on thinking about your bets in playing gambling. You just need to enjoy every game you play and do not put further pressure on playing just like what I did on playing into the online casino that I am currently into because I enjoy the variety of games they have as well as the great deal when the first time I have done my deposit and received their reward as a welcome bonus.

Indeed. Those games are just fair enough for us players. What is not enough is the luck we have to win those games since they are practically application of probability so we have a 50:50 chance of winning or loosing the game. You seems to be enjoying playing into that online casino you were talking about that gets my interest.

[Ipwich]

Can you really trust all the dice and gambling sites with provably fair games? Or are they all rigged?

Probably they are fair. It is just that the chances or luck is not just always fair for us. Since gambling is an application of probability in a game, chances of winning is not always present that is why maybe you are doubting about the credibility of the fair games they have. You just need to be wise on thinking about your bets in playing gambling. You just need to enjoy every game you play and do not put further pressure on playing just like what I did on playing into the online casino that I am currently into because I enjoy the variety of games they have as well as the great deal when the first time I have done my deposit and received their reward as a welcome bonus.

Indeed. Those games are just fair enough for us players. What is not enough is the luck we have to win those games since they are practically application of probability so we have a 50:50 chance of winning or loosing the game. You seems to be enjoying playing into that online casino you were talking about that gets my interest.

I disagree, it's not a 50:50 chance because there is a house edge.

[dunfida]

Can you really trust all the dice and gambling sites with provably fair games? Or are they all rigged?

Probably they are fair. It is just that the chances or luck is not just always fair for us. Since gambling is an application of probability in a game, chances of winning is not always present that is why maybe you are doubting about the credibility of the fair games they have. You just need to be wise on thinking about your bets in playing gambling. You just need to enjoy every game you play and do not put further pressure on playing just like what I did on playing into the online casino that I am currently into because I enjoy the variety of games they have as well as the great deal when the first time I have done my deposit and received their reward as a welcome bonus.

Indeed. Those games are just fair enough for us players. What is not enough is the luck we have to win those games since they are practically application of probability so we have a 50:50 chance of winning or loosing the game. You seems to be enjoying playing into that online casino you were talking about that gets my interest.

I disagree, it's not a 50:50 chance because there is a house edge.

Correct, with having a house edge all of these kind of games wont really be considered 50-50% chance unless if its a toss coin then it would be considered. Talking about fairness, we cant really sure if they are
even they are reputable ones.Verifying is one of things should be done if you are on doubt but i believe most people wont really matter to check it out as long they would go to the popular ones which is being trusted.

[virasog]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

They will never make their ledgers public as most of them are not provably fair games. This is the main reason why we see many people lose and houses win.
We never know what exactly running behind the house but it is never 100% fair game play.

[JackpotRacer]

Well, the truth, if they are fair, they have their audits completely public so that they can be reviewed by their users, and well, remember the phrase: "The house always wins", although, as players, we are always looking for ways to believe that we can take advantage, there are in those windows of probabilities in which you should take advantage of a benefit, but if I discovered that they are fair, there is a factor that is in our favor, which is called Good Luck.

They will never make their ledgers public as most of them are not provably fair games. This is the main reason why we see many people lose and houses win.
We never know what exactly running behind the house but it is never 100% fair game play.

why would you say this? just check out https://funfair.io

I have post it before but who cares to read the thread

[JohnBitCo]

Can you really trust all the dice and gambling sites with provably fair games? Or are they all rigged?

Probably they are fair. It is just that the chances or luck is not just always fair for us. Since gambling is an application of probability in a game, chances of winning is not always present that is why maybe you are doubting about the credibility of the fair games they have. You just need to be wise on thinking about your bets in playing gambling. You just need to enjoy every game you play and do not put further pressure on playing just like what I did on playing into the online casino that I am currently into because I enjoy the variety of games they have as well as the great deal when the first time I have done my deposit and received their reward as a welcome bonus.

Indeed. Those games are just fair enough for us players. What is not enough is the luck we have to win those games since they are practically application of probability so we have a 50:50 chance of winning or loosing the game. You seems to be enjoying playing into that online casino you were talking about that gets my interest.

I disagree, it's not a 50:50 chance because there is a house edge.

Exactly, no games are fair even if they claim to be provably fair games.  No one knows what is the exact house edge which is implemented in the backend and therefore the probability of a player to win is very less as compare to the house (Casino).

[felicita]

iam also playing on long trusted gambling pages like primedice and freebitcoin....
But i dont know exactly but i guess they can change there system easy in the background.
So can  provably fair games  be rigged by the admin without your known ?

regards

[AmoreJaz]

iam also playing on long trusted gambling pages like primedice and freebitcoin....
But i dont know exactly but i guess they can change there system easy in the background.
So can  provably fair games  be rigged by the admin without your known ?

regards

 i dont think they will put their reputation at stake.
so for those old and trusted sites, i believe they will not do such thing because one mistake will ruin their image in a snap.
and there will be no turning back if they will do this even at one time. the credibility will not be the same ever again.

[Ucy]

Good question. I was thinking about about this too.

Can't the owners rig things quickly before the data is hashed or something... considering the fact that everything is still done on centralized servers (with no checks).
I guess things will be difficult to rig only on blockchain based gamblings.

[sujonali1819]

No, we should not trust all the dice games. Because there are many dice game which is not fair. They always try to steal money from the player. So be safe from these untrusted dice games you should use some trusted site which is more familiar for many years. To find out the trusted gamble site you can visit this. [Overview of all bitcoin casinos] Latest update: 14-03-19 VISIT NEW WEBSITE]

[Bdstar]

Actually an interesting question you have asked.I also saw many many gambling sites are using this phrase "Provably fair "  From Wikipedia i learned this is a phrase used on gambling which defines the game is fair for both side.But I don't know how gambling sites using this because It's a algorithm Which verify that this is a fair match.     

[wwzsocki]

Can you really trust all the dice and gambling sites with provably fair games? Or are they all rigged?

I can assure you that provably fair feature can be trusted whatsoever you have to learn a little more about it and check the service you will be using if it is for sure probably fair.

Every casino or gambling service has to provide some evidence on how this provably fair thing works by them.

There has to be info provided after the bet for you to check the fairness and nobody will do it for you.

So or you will learn this feature and check your bets or you don't have any other option as to blindly believe that the service you are using is provably fair.

I can only advise in such a situation to make a proper research before you choose the gambling site for your deposit.

[sergeybrim]

Hi, actually, provably fair is not provably random.  You see all that happens in provably fair is that they pre-commit a seed before you bet and then they hash it so you can view it after.
Now that just magic...why?  Because most probably fair systems are not probably random.  Most gamblers over time start making similar bets in many games, and every casino tracks your action.
What this means is that they can, in many cases, guess what a player wont bet (at the least).  And this means they can pre-commit a seed that you are not likely to bet - and you may not even know it!
Some new casinos in Blockchain are using provably fair and random peer-to-peer cryptographic solutions.
Check out D2W.Bet
And check out this: https://medium.com/d2w-bet/blockdraws-golle-algorithm-a-distributed-p2p-cryptographic-algorithm-for-generating-provably-a282581f787f