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October 18, 2012, 10:37:51 AM
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Problem is: how could they buy bitcoins? With their funny money?
Maybe they could try to sell some oil for BTC.
Anyone on the BTC market for a tanker or two of oil?
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October 18, 2012, 10:52:05 AM
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In some ways Litecoin might be a more reasonable alternative for Iranians. At this point Iran can't buy the equipment with which to mine BTC in any significant volume, and individuals who do posses GPUS (and there are lots of gamers in Iran) don't have enough power to mine BTC either.

Seeing as Iranians would a) be most likely be wary of trading large amounts of Cash for Bitcoins that they can't make themselves, and b) who would trade Bitcoins for Iranian cash anyway, Litecoin might be a more reasonable alternative. The difficulty is still low enough that people can at least mine a FEW coins thus giving them a chance to develop a coin economy within their economic terrarium.


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October 18, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
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To bad they cant download the software easily.

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Nice solution, then the SS will show up at your door, and arrest you, hold you for months until they discover the coins you sent are not being used to support their nuclear plant.
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October 18, 2012, 11:38:42 AM
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Problem is: how could they buy bitcoins? With their funny money?
Maybe they could try to sell some oil for BTC.
Anyone on the BTC market for a tanker or two of oil?

Why buy bitcoins when you've got cheap electricity from the ground, and computers from China?
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October 18, 2012, 12:02:36 PM
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How to download: use vpn/tor, go on bitcoin website, clic download button. Done.  Smiley
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October 18, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
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use vpn/tor

More details plz
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October 18, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
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In some ways Litecoin might be a more reasonable alternative for Iranians. At this point Iran can't buy the equipment with which to mine BTC in any significant volume, and individuals who do posses GPUS (and there are lots of gamers in Iran) don't have enough power to mine BTC either.

Seeing as Iranians would a) be most likely be wary of trading large amounts of Cash for Bitcoins that they can't make themselves, and b) who would trade Bitcoins for Iranian cash anyway, Litecoin might be a more reasonable alternative. The difficulty is still low enough that people can at least mine a FEW coins thus giving them a chance to develop a coin economy within their economic terrarium.

1.) they don't need to mine

2.) Iranian individuals have gold

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October 18, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
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Obama is terrible, look at the chilling effect. People are afraid to speak their minds in the US. As terrible at GWDummyBush was people were not fearful to speak freely back then.
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October 18, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
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October 18, 2012, 05:12:43 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong, but the "exporting cryptography is illegal" thing is false today. It was true tons of years ago, but not now.

And yes, bitcoin is ideal for Iran. Just download a small software and ta-dah, you are connected to a world-wide, secure, fast and efficient payment/money/whatelse system  Smiley

And yes, i too think that iran people are mostly good guys, the government is epic fail, but you can't blame the whole population for the errors of the government!

"the government is epic fail" That's only what we know from the mass media, I'm not so sure that their Govt are so much of a failure.. IMO, this his what the 1%ers want us to beleive !

Anyone talked to actual iranian ?  Anyone have friend / relative in this country that they communicate with ?

I'm convinced that US and CAN Govt really are epic fail !  As not a mass media listener, I can't tell about what they want us to beleive.. Be carefull, dont take those TVs for truth teller, thoses TVs are mass-propaganda tool.. search the web, give it a try !  Google it !

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October 18, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
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Have anyone tried to contact President of Iran or Ministry of Security and Intelligence of Iran on this matter? Because without supreme approval of Iranian government Bitcoin will not function in Iran. Bitcoin protocol is neither obfuscated or encrypted on packet level and it is easily blocked on ISP level.

With government adopting BTC as a payment instrument alongside gold and euro is a great tool to damage USA dollar. Expect to bitcoins become outlawed in all zionist controlled states. But the Iran is known to reject or be overly suspicious about some new things, like wikileaks.

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October 18, 2012, 06:35:04 PM
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Bitcoin protocol is neither obfuscated or encrypted on packet level and it is easily blocked on ISP level.
But it's obfuscated and encrypted on TOR and VPN  Wink

As for what DoomDumas  said, i think that iranian people are people like us but their government isn't exactly a good one
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October 18, 2012, 06:38:53 PM
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Bitcoin protocol is neither obfuscated or encrypted on packet level and it is easily blocked on ISP level.
But it's obfuscated and encrypted on TOR and VPN  Wink

As for what DoomDumas  said, i think that iranian people are people like us but their government isn't exactly a good one
Tor does not work in Iran. VPN work only for "selected" people.

Iranian people are muslims. For atheist like me they are OK as long as they identify themselves for Aryans. Read history books about Hitler and Iran! But don't post your wrong opinion about Iranian government. Without revolutionary government Iran will be another puppet state to jew zionist conspiracy.

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October 18, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
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Tor does not work in Iran. VPN work only for "selected" people.

Tor does work in Iran, it's just more complicated and the Tor Project have had to be increasingly clever to "route around the damage":



Tor usage in Iran has made a full recovery days after the Iranian government started blocking encrypted Internet traffic.

Last Friday, the number of Iranian users connecting to the Internet through Tor's anonymizing network had plummeted from roughly 50,000 per day to nearly zero. By Sunday, however, Tor usage was back to normal and expected usage levels, according to updated metrics provided by the Tor Project.

In response to Iranian censorship, Tor Project leaders rolled out a new obfuscated bridge that allows Iranians to circumvent the blockages and connect to the Internet through Tor once again. It's unclear if the recovery in Internet connections is due primarily to steps taken by Tor and its users, but the government's latest censorship program does not appear to have ended.

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October 18, 2012, 09:38:05 PM
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To bad they cant download the software easily.

What stops them from downloading just like anybody else?

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October 18, 2012, 09:40:04 PM
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To bad they cant download the software easily.

What stops them from downloading just like anybody else?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/10/09/as-inflation-rages-in-iran-bitcoin-software-not-available/

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October 18, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
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easy solution.. have a contact outside of the country send them a copy.. better yet have a trusted source set up a mirror.

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October 19, 2012, 07:29:46 AM
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Iranian people are muslims. For atheist like me they are OK as long as they identify themselves for Aryans. Read history books about Hitler and Iran! But don't post your wrong opinion about Iranian government. Without revolutionary government Iran will be another puppet state to jew zionist conspiracy.

I won't even try to interpret any sense into that.
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October 19, 2012, 10:55:54 AM
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Getting enough* Bitcoins into Iran to have a meaningful economy in BTC there might be a harder task than getting the blocks/transactions to/from miners or the software into Iran. Unless someone is helping people there (meaning: Bitcoin websites/documentation/information/services in farsi!) I just don't see it happening. What about great concepts that would benefit people in the US a lot, but they are only documented + in use in Suaheli for example? Technology and ideas are not just generated and implemented in the english speaking world or the US and then dribble down to the "more stupid and underdeveloped" parts of the world (yes, I'm exaggerating)...

Either someone donates a whole bunch of BTC into Iran and finds a way to randomly distribute them similar to mining (which at current difficulties + USD prices is not really an option there) so they can bootstrap or there's another way how to exchange goods/gold/iranian money for BTC that we need to establish and haven't thought about yet.

* Yes, I know in theory "you can run a whole economy off of 1 single BTC!!!11121!". Currently however NOT without introducing questionable concepts like colored coins making 1 coin not equal to another coin. Otherwise there would be always the lurking threat of someone coming into Iran with 10 BTC he bought for ~100 USD and having a buying power many times that.

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October 19, 2012, 04:50:16 PM
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Otherwise there would be always the lurking threat of someone coming into Iran with 10 BTC he bought for ~100 USD and having a buying power many times that.

But the "lurking threat" you fear is exactly this works.



That is showing how someone with $100 quickly saw that amount's buying power (in terms of Iranian rial / IRR) doubled in just a few weeks.   It sucks for those who were late to get rid of their rials, or never exchanged them out at all, but the end result is more dollars moved in a result of that increase in buying power.

If Bitcoins trade at a premium because they are scarce, more will be drawn in by the increase in the buying power of those bitcoins.  Since bitcoins can flow easier (i.e., electronically) than dollars do, which do you think is capable of reaching market equilibrium first?   On one hand you have bitcoins that can be received by millions of Iranians with family abroad who can receive bitcoins via a mobile or PC.  On the other you have paper money that must be smuggled through border crossings, or dribbled through via travelers from abroad or the few other entry vectors.

Of course, we all are well aware that bitcoin doesn't just explode onto the scene, but it probably does have a role that can be significant for both Bitcoin and for the pioneers who use it

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