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September 25, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
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I am currently developing a Bitcoin-related project and I just searching for a good web hosting partner. I have got an offer with a SSL certificate having the following properties:

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Certificate Authority:   RapdidSSL
Certificate Type:      RapidSSL
Browser Recognition:      99%
Root Certificate:      single (not chained)
Hosts:      secures a single host
Encryption Level:      128/256 bit
Issuance Speed:      less than one day
Warranty:      $10,000

Price would be 40$ annually.

I am not familiar with this SSL certificate stuff. My question; Is this certificate good and save enough, and is it enough for a middle-size web project?

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September 26, 2015, 09:29:59 AM
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Read the Stackoverflow discussion at the link below. It says higher priced certificates offer higher levels of warranty, so if a higher priced certificate is used fraudulently anyone who has lost money can make a bigger claim. If you use the cheap certificate people can only claim $10,000 but if you use an expensive one they could claim much more than that, maybe $100,000. Your choice of certificate depends on how much money your website is likely to secure, or if it secures any at all.



http://stackoverflow.com/questions/157271/whats-the-difference-between-rapidssl-and-geotrust-certificates
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September 26, 2015, 09:30:35 AM
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Frankly I do not understand where you got this from but SSL certificate is just an add on with some webhosting companies and some domain name registrar and it is cheaper than $40 per year.
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September 26, 2015, 12:15:16 PM
Last edit: September 26, 2015, 04:15:24 PM by DiamondCardz
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Depends on what you're developing. If you're developing a site where you handle a large amount of user funds, you might want a slightly larger warranty - but SSL Certificate warranties generally cover the end-user when they lose funds in something like a credit card transaction when the information in the certificate isn't properly verified. So a warranty probably doesn't matter as much to you.

PositiveSSL from Comodo is the budget choice. There's not a massive difference between that SSL certificate and the one you were offered. The single domain certificate for it from Namecheap (EDIT: there's an e in name >.>) costs £5.93/year - in the US I imagine it'll be just under $10/year - and it also has a $10,000 warranty like the SSL certificate you were offered, if that matters to you.

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September 26, 2015, 02:42:50 PM
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Thanks for your opinions. I just want to use it for a community project (forum). There will not be any funds or something similar. So, I guess the cheap one would fit to my requirements.
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September 26, 2015, 02:43:53 PM
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Could you point me to a site where I can get it cheaper than $40. Even on the official site of rapidssl, they is a price of $49,95 / year.

Frankly I do not understand where you got this from but SSL certificate is just an add on with some webhosting companies and some domain name registrar and it is cheaper than $40 per year.
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September 26, 2015, 03:21:37 PM
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Could you point me to a site where I can get it cheaper than $40. Even on the official site of rapidssl, they is a price of $49,95 / year.

Frankly I do not understand where you got this from but SSL certificate is just an add on with some webhosting companies and some domain name registrar and it is cheaper than $40 per year.
Nice question, I can give you more than 50 examples of websites that can give you ssl for less than $40 per year, here we go:
www.sslcertificate.com/Cheapest-SSL
https://cheapsslsecurity.com/
https://www.ssls.com
I will stop here for now but you can contact me if you need the website addresses of places to get ssl cheaper than $0 per year.
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September 26, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
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Could you point me to a site where I can get it cheaper than $40. Even on the official site of rapidssl, they is a price of $49,95 / year.

If you're going to ask for help, please read the replies to your question properly.

PositiveSSL from Comodo is the budget choice. There's not a massive difference between that SSL certificate and the one you were offered. The single domain certificate for it from Namecheap costs £5.93/year - in the US I imagine it'll be just under $10/year - and it also has a $10,000 warranty like the SSL certificate you were offered, if that matters to you.

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...contact me if you need the website addresses of places to get ssl cheaper than $0 per year.

I'd like to know how I can get paid to get an SSL certificate Wink

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September 26, 2015, 04:23:15 PM
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I'd like to know how I can get paid to get an SSL certificate Wink
I feel this is the real issue here, how do I get payment from SSL company should my website got attacked from either hackers or dubious people.

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September 26, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
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I'd like to know how I can get paid to get an SSL certificate Wink
I feel this is the real issue here, how do I get payment from SSL company should my website got attacked from either hackers or dubious people.

I was making a joke about him saying "cheaper than $0 a year", but that's not how the warranty works. The warranty covers you if the SSL certificate essentially fails. Not if the website itself gets hacked.

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September 26, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
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I'd like to know how I can get paid to get an SSL certificate Wink
I feel this is the real issue here, how do I get payment from SSL company should my website got attacked from either hackers or dubious people.

I was making a joke about him saying "cheaper than $0 a year", but that's not how the warranty works. The warranty covers you if the SSL certificate essentially fails. Not if the website itself gets hacked.
Perhaps we should all understand how this SSL works, why should we get it since it might fail, why is it that necessary.

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September 26, 2015, 05:00:28 PM
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Perhaps we should all understand how this SSL works, why should we get it since it might fail, why is it that necessary.

Well it's very rare that it fails, you seem to not know what SSL is. SSL means Secure Sockets Layer, it's essentially a method of encryption for client-server communications. Any site you see where you're accessing it via https://, Bitcointalk included, has an SSL certificate. The warranty is just in case. The only real way it could fail would be a failure in the verification of the certificate, which is really rare.

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September 26, 2015, 05:29:30 PM
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Perhaps we should all understand how this SSL works, why should we get it since it might fail, why is it that necessary.

Well it's very rare that it fails, you seem to not know what SSL is. SSL means Secure Sockets Layer, it's essentially a method of encryption for client-server communications. Any site you see where you're accessing it via https://, Bitcointalk included, has an SSL certificate. The warranty is just in case. The only real way it could fail would be a failure in the verification of the certificate, which is really rare.
Alright thank you for the explanations but where do the $10,000 warranty that will be paid to customers come in.

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September 26, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
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Alright thank you for the explanations but where do the $10,000 warranty that will be paid to customers come in.

Jesus dude, I explained this. If the certificate fails, e.g.

a failure in the verification of the certificate, which is really rare.

and the end-user loses money to this through something like a credit card transaction, the warranty covers that.

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September 27, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
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Alright thank you for the explanations but where do the $10,000 warranty that will be paid to customers come in.

Jesus dude, I explained this. If the certificate fails, e.g.

a failure in the verification of the certificate, which is really rare.

and the end-user loses money to this through something like a credit card transaction, the warranty covers that.
Thank you for taking your time to explain, SSL is actually needed by websites that deal with people finance but it is not as expensive as the OP thinks.
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September 27, 2015, 10:10:01 AM
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interesting discussion. Now i think, i got the real nature behind of this ssl certificate stuff  Grin
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September 27, 2015, 10:18:12 AM
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interesting discussion. Now i think, i got the real nature behind of this ssl certificate stuff  Grin
I hope by now you are convinced that paying $40 per year for SSL is not a prudent decision? What do you think?
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October 10, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
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Well, i decided to buy the rapid SSL certificate for $40. i'll test it for one year and if all is fine i can look for a better offer for the second year.
interesting discussion. Now i think, i got the real nature behind of this ssl certificate stuff  Grin
I hope by now you are convinced that paying $40 per year for SSL is not a prudent decision? What do you think?
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