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September 26, 2015, 10:07:01 PM
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We are all whitenesses that the XT idea probably won't work. What's next for Gavin if his XT goes down the drain as it seems it's happening?

Have we as a community just lost one of our devs? And not just any dev, but the one to whom Satoshi has left Bitcoin and development of Bitcoin in a sense.
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September 26, 2015, 10:14:26 PM
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Gavin will either carry on as usual, or retire for disagreements with other devs. I think he'll opt for the first option. If XT fails miserably, It's definitely not the first thing he proposed in his life that failed Cheesy Besides, XT has other functionality beyond what regards big blocks/block size changes, so there will always be a userbase, even if it is really, really small.
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September 26, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
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Gavin will either carry on as usual, or retire for disagreements with other devs. I think he'll opt for the first option. If XT fails miserably, It's definitely not the first thing he proposed in his life that failed Cheesy Besides, XT has other functionality beyond what regards big blocks/block size changes, so there will always be a userbase, even if it is really, really small.

So you think he can just come back, take back his old positions and pretend that nothing happened. I don't know about this!

Also, how will community ever be able to trust him again after he tried what he tried with the XT fork?
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September 26, 2015, 11:46:30 PM
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What did he try?
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September 27, 2015, 12:02:35 AM
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Prediction:  This thread will devolve into the same controversy that's been discussed in a dozen other threads
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September 27, 2015, 12:07:19 AM
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What did he try?

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September 27, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
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Prediction:  This thread will devolve into the same controversy that's been discussed in a dozen other threads
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I haven't seen in any threads so far discussion on what will be Gavin's future or I have missed these discussions. This is a legitimate and very interesting question especially now when we are seeing that the XT won't live glorious life as some have expected.

I wouldn't like that thread goes to drama and pointing fingers. I would just want opinions, is Gavin done or what his future might hold?
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September 27, 2015, 12:21:44 AM
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epic fail from him to hijack bitcoin and to be the project leader.

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September 27, 2015, 12:25:17 AM
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He'll try and act like nothing ever happened. He has nothing else going for him and appears to love the attention.
He can't seem to stay out of the spotlight at least.

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September 27, 2015, 12:29:01 AM
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Gavin was barely even on the bitcon project for the longest time.
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September 27, 2015, 12:49:45 AM
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We are all whitenesses that the XT idea probably won't work. What's next for Gavin if his XT goes down the drain as it seems it's happening?

When the blocksize limit is resolved. The codes relating to the 8M fork will be pulled out and XT will just be another bitcoin client. Gavin is not the maintainer of Core any more but he can still contribute to bitcoin core code. Nothing really changed.
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September 27, 2015, 01:10:06 AM
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Prediction:  This thread will devolve into the same controversy that's been discussed in a dozen other threads
in the last month, with the same participants and the same arguments.



I haven't seen in any threads so far discussion on what will be Gavin's future or I have missed these discussions. This is a legitimate and very interesting question especially now when we are seeing that the XT won't live glorious life as some have expected.

I wouldn't like that thread goes to drama and pointing fingers. I would just want opinions, is Gavin done or what his future might hold?

I think he's still the chief scientist of Bitcoin.  He acted pretty responsibly by not releasing his changes in core without consensus, even though he can.  He stepped down from the benevolent dictator role and took a very reasoned measure by releasing what he thought was a sensible scaling solution in an alternate client.

Controversy to start in ...3...2...1...


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September 27, 2015, 01:36:29 AM
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Prediction:  This thread will devolve into the same controversy that's been discussed in a dozen other threads
in the last month, with the same participants and the same arguments.



I haven't seen in any threads so far discussion on what will be Gavin's future or I have missed these discussions. This is a legitimate and very interesting question especially now when we are seeing that the XT won't live glorious life as some have expected.

I wouldn't like that thread goes to drama and pointing fingers. I would just want opinions, is Gavin done or what his future might hold?

I think he's still the chief scientist of Bitcoin.  He acted pretty responsibly by not releasing his changes in core without consensus, even though he can.  He stepped down from the benevolent dictator role and took a very reasoned measure by releasing what he thought was a sensible scaling solution in an alternate client.

Controversy to start in ...3...2...1...



He still has commit access of Core? I though he had steped down.

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September 27, 2015, 01:53:11 AM
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Maybe he will try again and propose another solution. I dont know what he might be thinking. He is one of the minds behind the development. I just thought there will always be another way to get around to the problem of the blocksize limitation issue and just because he didn't managed to push through this time, doesn't mean that he will just give up and dissappear just like that.

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September 27, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
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He'll wait for the next major issue and use it to push his agenda again.

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September 27, 2015, 03:00:12 AM
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In my view, all relevant/active Bitcoin developers should voluntarily submit to random drug testing. I watched a video not long ago and Gavin looked glassy eyed. I'm not sure about his meds, but no one in their right mind could have thought up BIP101.

Yeah, we need GB block sizes, ummm, okay. Let's double every week, why wait two years. lol
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September 27, 2015, 03:12:28 AM
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i hope he doesn't just give up and leave bitcoin. he should do an assessment of what he did wrong and start over. i think forking bitcoin while a large portion of community was against it, was wrong in the first place so the result of it is nothing out of the ordinary.

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September 27, 2015, 04:57:28 AM
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I don't think much will change really, XT will die quietly and everything will go back to normal.
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September 27, 2015, 07:11:06 AM
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he will join core again and make a less furious change, like 2mb, just to be safe for now, at least this hould be his best way, to reeem himself
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September 27, 2015, 07:47:03 AM
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Gavin have enough resilience and passion for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin to continue what he has been doing for years. It's not as if he was working full time on Bitcoin for the

last couple of years anyway. He will make changes to his suggestion and submit a new BIP and we will see a new fork again. It's just how this thing works.

Hopefully he will break ties with Mike and drop all the "spy stuff" from his code and contribute positively to the Bitcoin community again.  Roll Eyes If he does that, he will be going in

the right direction for his future.  Wink

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