FBI Agent Threatens to Kill Silk Road Architect, Ulbricht’s Family for Bitcoin !

[AgentofCoin]

If this is real, I think "diamond" is most likely part of the intelligence service, not the FBI.

[Gleb Gamow]

I consider the use of the "Diamond" moniker funny considering that the dude who controls silkroad.com based in Chicago is mighty fond of the word "Platinum".

[NorrisK]

This is insane. I'd like to hope it is all idle threats. I know some Feds can be corrupt but surely nobody would carry out this threat, surely?

There are millions of dollars at stake so there are some people that would go to extreme measures to get that money.

This is the biggest reason that this might actually be true. Think of what mankind would do for 70 million USD...

Although it should be quite easy to actually find out who the corrupt agent is and after that it wouldn't be too hard to track him. 70 million gets you a long way, but is it worth the life on the run?

[Denker]

Damn this is some complete craziness right now. I think this is turning into quote a plot and this would be a 10 better scenario for a movie in my opinion, than the Mt. Gox story that they were talking about filming!

This had been my thoughts as well. So much stuff which is definitely worth a movie. If it's ever been made I will watch it for sure.

[AGD]

What if Ross really sold the site to an yet unknown person and this person continued to use the DPR moniker?
What if Ross doesn't have control over this 300k wallet and this Diamond guy only thinks that Ross has the password?
What if PoM's whole story is made up for a reason, that we still don't know?

[Betwrong]

What if Ross really sold the site to an yet unknown person and this person continued to use the DPR moniker?

It can't be so. Ross was caught in the library when logged into his account.

[dimke_yu]

What if Ross really sold the site to an yet unknown person and this person continued to use the DPR moniker?

It can't be so. Ross was caught in the library when logged into his account.

Do you saw that happen in person or you read about that?

[AGD]

What if Ross really sold the site to an yet unknown person and this person continued to use the DPR moniker?

It can't be so. Ross was caught in the library when logged into his account.

Ross said, he was tricked back to log in as an Admin at a time when he had nothing to do with the site anymore.

[gentlemand]

Ross said, he was tricked back to log in as an Admin at a time when he had nothing to do with the site anymore.

Yah.

Sure.

[Betwrong]

What if Ross really sold the site to an yet unknown person and this person continued to use the DPR moniker?

It can't be so. Ross was caught in the library when logged into his account.

Do you saw that happen in person or you read about that?

I didn't see it in person, but I was interested in the case and was trying to find out as much as I could about it.
Here is the best compilation of documents and such IMO:

http://antilop.cc/sr/

[manselr]

You look at things like this and you think... Is this a movie? This cannot be real.. until you become the target of this. Ulbricht and BurtW family has been drawn into the dark web of lies.

We think we are safe, when law enforcement cross our paths, but it's not true for everyone. Every organization has their bad apples, and you are just lucky, if your path do not cross

one of them. One or two bad apples, do not spoil the whole basket... Our local police force, also has some bad apples, but the majority are good people, with good intentions.  

It's sad to see what people will do for money. Unfortunately no amount of improvements on the money system will solve this. No matter if we are trading goods, gold, fiat paper or Bitcoin, people will still do evil things for money. We need improvement in human soul and not only in the actual system in which money works. It's disgusting to hear he will torture people to get some sad BTCs and it's even more frustrating when he is supposedly an FBI guy.

[gentlemand]

We need improvement in human soul and not only in the actual system in which money works.

Let's say humanity has evolved beyond war and greed and live out peaceful lives as we're busy being loving and productive.

Then one human is born who wants it all and decides they're going to take it. Others decide they're not keen on that idea. Cue house of cards collapsing.

We'll have to wait until we're replaced by androids until there's a just society.

[Quickseller]

Ross said, he was tricked back to log in as an Admin at a time when he had nothing to do with the site anymore.

Yah.

Sure.

Ross did not even say this, his attorney did during opening arguments, and his attorney was not under oath when this was said, so IMO very little weight should be given to this claim IMO.

I honestly think the chances of Ross being tricked *back* to Sr as being pretty close to zero.

Even if this was true, then I am fairly certain that Ross would still be guilty of the majority of the crimes that he was charged with, except maybe the kingpin statue.

If it was somehow determined that Ross was ticked into coming back to SR then his chances of receiving a pardon would probably increase. If you ignore the murder for hire allegations against Ross, then what he/SR1 did was really not all that bad.....he allowed people to make additional informed choices about what to put in their bodies, and he caused drug related violence to decrease as a result of SR1. If you take the above facts and the crimes that Ross was charged with in NY, then I think it would be fair to say that what Ross did was really not all that bad and should probably not be in jail/prison. It would be fairly easy to say that Ross would be deserving of a pardon.

However if there is any substance to the allegation that Ross ordered the murder of 5 people, 3 of which were most likely innocent (I do not know with certainty one way or another if there is substance behind this allegation), then it is much more difficult to argue that Ross should be a free man, and that what he did was not bad. It if very difficult to argue that someone who (there is substantial evidence that) has ordered the killing of others should be released from prison. I acknowledge that Ross may have been manipulated into making this decision by potentially Law Enforcement Officers who were attempting to personally profit, however this kind of behavior is nearly impossible to excuse.

[Betwrong]

We need improvement in human soul and not only in the actual system in which money works.

Let's say humanity has evolved beyond war and greed and live out peaceful lives as we're busy being loving and productive.

Then one human is born who wants it all and decides they're going to take it. Others decide they're not keen on that idea. Cue house of cards collapsing.

We'll have to wait until we're replaced by androids until there's a just society.

IMO no one is just born with an idea in his head. Any idea finds a way to your mind through the education you receive. That's why most of the people of North Korea  regard Kim Jong-un as a god, and that's why so many people in Western countries regard money as god.

So, yes, we do need improvement in human soul or else we'll be replaced by more efficient lifeforms. )

[g-unit]

Do you guys believe this story? If not, why do you think VJ would make it up, assuming it's really him that posted it?

Just intrigued by the whole thing..

[ANdr0id]

Do you guys believe this story? If not, why do you think VJ would make it up, assuming it's really him that posted it?

Just intrigued by the whole thing..

I do believe it. FBI are ruthless group of individuals who stop at nothing to get what ever they are after at any costs.
Like the mafia but backed by their government, so unlimited funds to do what ever they are after.

[g-unit]

Do you guys believe this story? If not, why do you think VJ would make it up, assuming it's really him that posted it?

Just intrigued by the whole thing..

I do believe it. FBI are ruthless group of individuals who stop at nothing to get what ever they are after at any costs.
Like the mafia but backed by their government, so unlimited funds to do what ever they are after.

I believed it at first...but how do we explain him being in prison with an iPhone 4? This was when he would have been helping Ross with Silk Road as someone pointed out. Did he borrow his friend's phone to access SR and talk to Ross? I don't get it. There are a few other flaws I found but can't remember at the moment.

[ANdr0id]

Do you guys believe this story? If not, why do you think VJ would make it up, assuming it's really him that posted it?

Just intrigued by the whole thing..

I do believe it. FBI are ruthless group of individuals who stop at nothing to get what ever they are after at any costs.
Like the mafia but backed by their government, so unlimited funds to do what ever they are after.

I believed it at first...but how do we explain him being in prison with an iPhone 4? This was when he would have been helping Ross with Silk Road as someone pointed out. Did he borrow his friend's phone to access SR and talk to Ross? I don't get it. There are a few other flaws I found but can't remember at the moment.

FBI probably planted it on him to see what he would do and who he would contact. Ever watch The Wire on tv? That's what the cops do to get intel. You don't think thee FBI would do that, since they are the intelligence agency of the entire country. They are ruthless as I said before.

[g-unit]

Do you guys believe this story? If not, why do you think VJ would make it up, assuming it's really him that posted it?

Just intrigued by the whole thing..

I do believe it. FBI are ruthless group of individuals who stop at nothing to get what ever they are after at any costs.
Like the mafia but backed by their government, so unlimited funds to do what ever they are after.

I believed it at first...but how do we explain him being in prison with an iPhone 4? This was when he would have been helping Ross with Silk Road as someone pointed out. Did he borrow his friend's phone to access SR and talk to Ross? I don't get it. There are a few other flaws I found but can't remember at the moment.

FBI probably planted it on him to see what he would do and who he would contact. Ever watch The Wire on tv? That's what the cops do to get intel. You don't think thee FBI would do that, since they are the intelligence agency of the entire country. They are ruthless as I said before.

Gotcha. I didn't know that much about it...guess only time will tell. I'll be curious to see if anything ever comes out of it.

[Gleb Gamow]

Ross said, he was tricked back to log in as an Admin at a time when he had nothing to do with the site anymore.

Yah.

Sure.

Ross did not even say this, his attorney did during opening arguments, and his attorney was not under oath when this was said, so IMO very little weight should be given to this claim IMO.

I honestly think the chances of Ross being tricked *back* to Sr as being pretty close to zero.

Even if this was true, then I am fairly certain that Ross would still be guilty of the majority of the crimes that he was charged with, except maybe the kingpin statue.

If it was somehow determined that Ross was ticked into coming back to SR then his chances of receiving a pardon would probably increase. If you ignore the murder for hire allegations against Ross, then what he/SR1 did was really not all that bad.....he allowed people to make additional informed choices about what to put in their bodies, and he caused drug related violence to decrease as a result of SR1. If you take the above facts and the crimes that Ross was charged with in NY, then I think it would be fair to say that what Ross did was really not all that bad and should probably not be in jail/prison. It would be fairly easy to say that Ross would be deserving of a pardon.

However if there is any substance to the allegation that Ross ordered the murder of 5 people, 3 of which were most likely innocent (I do not know with certainty one way or another if there is substance behind this allegation), then it is much more difficult to argue that Ross should be a free man, and that what he did was not bad. It if very difficult to argue that someone who (there is substantial evidence that) has ordered the killing of others should be released from prison. I acknowledge that Ross may have been manipulated into making this decision by potentially Law Enforcement Officers who were attempting to personally profit, however this kind of behavior is nearly impossible to excuse.

I'm the one that exposed Curtis Green as a serial liar, and he hasn't been back to this forum since: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045937.0 Ironically, Leroy Fodor is gleaning passages from this thread pertaining to a blog administered by Joshua Zipkin in trying to curtail my investigation into Cryptsy. HAHAHA