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October 06, 2015, 03:30:29 AM |
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If you prefer blue instead of red, we understand.
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"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." - Areopagitica
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RealBitcoin
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October 06, 2015, 05:09:08 AM |
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If you prefer blue instead of red, we understand.
Oh yea you speak from my heart, BLUE NXT coin is much better than RED communist centrally planned fiat garbage  |
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October 06, 2015, 05:21:47 AM |
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If you prefer blue instead of red, we understand.
Oh yea you speak from my heart, BLUE NXT coin is much better than RED communist centrally planned fiat garbage ……….. ……………….__ …………./´¯/‘…’/´¯¯`·¸ ………./‘/…/…./……./¨¯\ ……..(’(…´…´…. ¯~/‘…’) ………\……………..‘…../ ……….’’…\………. _.·´ …………\…………..( BRO FIST |
"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." - Areopagitica
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EvilDave
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October 06, 2015, 08:45:02 AM |
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What happened to the cooperative attitude the crypto community used to have?
Well Chairman Stanlin, when the corporate fascists / communists started their invasion of the cryptosphere and started promoting derivatives as assets, cronyism as fair elections, centralization as inevitable, and asked us to hand over our private keys some of us got angry. And the fact that you've have been claiming 100,000 TPS 'out of the box' for Graphene consistently over the last 3 months.....  A claim that turns out to be based on a very dubious set of benchmarks......Volkswagen springs to mind: you mislead (putting it mildly) the community as to what you were going to deliver. Now that it is completely obvious that you can only deliver 1/1000th of what you promised, you attempt to spin the discussion into 'Aren't all the BTS critics horrible ?' Any comments on Banx, btw ? On to r0ach: Now, after your testing over the weekend where the test net died at a mere 1-2% of that claim Oh please, where does it say 100kTPS on a 1 core CPU? They mentioned it would need something like 32 cores to do that. Some guy named "clayop" in Korea ran a test while Larimers weren't even around that peaked at 3k TPS and some of the delegates running were single core VPS I believe. It's a dumb test because he doesn't even list hardware used or what the bottleneck seen was, etc. They need to make sure nobody is running some gimpy single core VPS before doing any more tests. Nope, this whole 32 cores thing is new to me. See above, BTS have been shilling 100k TPS for months, with no mention of needing enterprise level hardware. I even pointed out that the hardware requirements for 100k TPS would be huge, but as usual I just got stonewalled back. |
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patmast3r
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October 06, 2015, 09:01:19 AM |
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Nope, this whole 32 cores thing is new to me.
See above, BTS have been shilling 100k TPS for months, with no mention of needing enterprise level hardware.
I even pointed out that the hardware requirements for 100k TPS would be huge, but as usual I just got stonewalled back.
There was this https://beyondbitcoin.org/bitshares-dev-hangout-bytemaster-bitshares-2-release-date/ TLDR (at least what I've taken from it): The system could reach 100k TPS under lab conditions that aren't going to happen in the real world. Of course that doesn't sounds as good as just reaching 100k TPS period  . |
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LiQio
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October 06, 2015, 09:08:16 AM |
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I agree. Since the DPOS testnet is only peaking at 1000tps sell all your DPOS NOTES and BTS today please and thank you.  Done. |
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EvilDave
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October 06, 2015, 09:18:23 AM |
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And yet Cryptonomex, the Stan 'n' Dan company that effectively controls BTS core development: https://cryptonomex.com/Leads off with, and I quote: Cryptonomex provides software development services to meet the growing demand for custom, high-performance, blockchains and related technology. Our engineers have designed and built one of the most advanced blockchain architectures on the market, capable of processing over 100,000 transactions per second with an average confirmation time of less than 1 second.
 No mention of "only under lab conditions if we fudge the benchmark a bit" |
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chryspano
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October 06, 2015, 09:49:18 AM |
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I can see a lot of scared people, the past few weeks we had a massive rally of Trolls, nxt fanboys and people that generally feel threatened by bitshares, the 30 day anouncement scared a lot of people. The smell of fear is in the air... in this thread and in others. Tick tock... tick tock... you are running out of time dear trolls....  |
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crypti PR
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October 06, 2015, 10:00:45 AM |
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The whole Crypti team wishes BitShares good luck with 2.0. We DPoS systems need to stick together. |
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EvilDave
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October 06, 2015, 10:02:02 AM |
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Fear ?
ROFLMAO......Graphene simply doesn't work as promised, mate.
BTS is big on the hype, but not so good on the delivery.
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October 06, 2015, 10:40:05 AM |
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The smell of fear is in the air... in this thread and in others.
no, that's the smell of bullshit ... fear's a bit more 'nutty' |
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chryspano
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October 06, 2015, 10:49:13 AM |
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Fear ?
ROFLMAO......Graphene simply doesn't work as promised, mate.
BTS is big on the hype, but not so good on the delivery.
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EvilDave
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October 06, 2015, 11:06:30 AM |
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Yeah, I could do with changing these socks.....but Graphene still won't work as advertised, even with clean socks on. |
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patmast3r
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October 06, 2015, 11:08:38 AM |
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Yeah, I could do with changing these socks.....but Graphene still won't work as advertised, even with clean socks on. It will work. In a world where delegates have over 30 cores and a 30MB/s (yes, that's a capital B) connection. |
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October 06, 2015, 11:23:57 AM |
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The whole Crypti team wishes BitShares good luck with 2.0. We DPoS systems need to stick together. Thanks |
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October 06, 2015, 12:01:23 PM |
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The whole Crypti team wishes BitShares good luck with 2.0. We DPoS systems need to stick together. Thanks You are welcome. |
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StanLarimer
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October 06, 2015, 01:08:58 PM |
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You guys shouldn't feel threatened. We designed it so that everybody could upgrade with us. Dogecoin could upgrade and immediately be collateral for its own stable market pegged assets! Peercoin could do counterparty free atomic trades with Dash. Everybody could get transferrable named multi-signature accounts with private blinded transactions between them. You can borrow Marscoin to buy Quark and set up auto-payments of Bitcoin to fund a debit card that also takes Qora. And nobody ever gets Goxed any more because they hold all the keys to their own funds while they are simultaneously available to trade on every member exchange. It reminds me of how ridiculous our great grandfathers looked when, seeing the first transcontinental railroad, they jeered, "Get a horse!". And yes, it will take us a few more months to tune things up for our planned bullet train. |
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Peachy
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October 06, 2015, 01:37:59 PM |
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I'm still bothered by the misleading marketing. As such, it's just another reason to be skeptical of any other claims purported. ("Fool me once, shame on you....") I've spent the last 15 years working for the largest networking company in the world and we are supremely careful in how we word our product datasheets such that anything we sell has been verified because our customers expect the same results after purchase. Saying it 'can' do 100,000 txs as a selling point would be akin to me selling an ISP a home wireless router that is 'capable' of being a CRS-3 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Routing_System). It better perform that way out of the box today and not at some future date when internet bandwidth is limited. |
RADiX (formerly eMunie): The future of money
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October 06, 2015, 02:07:46 PM |
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Shill, Shill, Shill!
200-ish crypto addicts, non-stop circle-jerking themselves...
bah, just shill it
thank you for this BtS sponsored thread
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StanLarimer
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October 06, 2015, 02:19:51 PM |
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I'm still bothered by the misleading marketing. As such, it's just another reason to be skeptical of any other claims purported. ("Fool me once, shame on you....") I've spent the last 15 years working for the largest networking company in the world and we are supremely careful in how we word our product datasheets such that anything we sell has been verified because our customers expect the same results after purchase. Saying it 'can' do 100,000 txs as a selling point would be akin to me selling an ISP a home wireless router that is 'capable' of being a CRS-3 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Routing_System). It better perform that way out of the box today and not at some future date when internet bandwidth is limited. We were very careful in our formal announcement to lay out the basis of our claims. (Things get a little loose in wording when people wax enthusiastic in the heat of forum discussions.) Here's the formal wording from an upcoming article that went through our more careful PR process... The first two industrial grade block chain platforms will make the jump to light speed this month.
Their 100 transactions per second throughput will be scalable to 100,000
and their 3-second block times can be dialed to 1 second by public vote. What it takes to scale is no different than how amazon and any other such web sites scale up to handle their global transaction load, and in fact, could be accomplished using leftover scaling power we can rent from Amazon when the time comes. Obviously, there's no need to pay that rent now, but its good to know what's coming because developers (our real customers) need to plan for what kind of platform technology will be available for their wicked cool applications next year. |
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