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I'm an eBay power seller. My only experience with paypal reversals is that all the customer has to do is say that they weren't satisfied with the weather on the day of the purchase and they automatically get their money back.
Sounds about right. PayPal... Isn't there a time window though?... |
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BitCoiner2012
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November 05, 2012, 12:54:45 AM |
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I'm an eBay power seller. My only experience with paypal reversals is that all the customer has to do is say that they weren't satisfied with the weather on the day of the purchase and they automatically get their money back.
Sounds about right. PayPal... Isn't there a time window though?... I believe there is some kind of mystical inner working going on there. In my 13 years I have never once had a favorable result. I have always lost money (guaranteed) as a seller in -all- recallable "trouble" transactions. |
BTC Long.
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abeaulieu
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November 05, 2012, 02:04:51 AM |
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I'm an eBay power seller. My only experience with paypal reversals is that all the customer has to do is say that they weren't satisfied with the weather on the day of the purchase and they automatically get their money back.
Sounds about right. PayPal... Isn't there a time window though?... I believe there is some kind of mystical inner working going on there. In my 13 years I have never once had a favorable result. I have always lost money (guaranteed) as a seller in -all- recallable "trouble" transactions. I suppose as buyers that's good news for us then  |
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Odi
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November 16, 2012, 01:11:27 AM |
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Bitcoin is like a variation of Schrödinger's Cat. Everything about it is both scam and fully legit at the same time until you open the box.
Yay! A replacement for my BTCFPGA advertisement sig. I suppose as buyers that's good news for us then Actually, it only works if you filed for non-delivery 45 days or less after payment Open a Dispute within 45 Days of the date you sent the payment – then follow the online dispute resolution process described below under "Dispute Resolution"
Beyond that 45 days, you will need to do a chargeback on your credit card. |
Bitcoin is like a variation of Schrödinger's Cat. Everything about it is both scam and fully legit at the same time until you open the box. - ElectricMucus |
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poon-TANG
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November 16, 2012, 04:52:58 AM |
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I don't think we won't see any ASIC devices until the split
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November 16, 2012, 05:30:20 AM |
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Everybody keeps screaming about the ASICs but to me every single company w/ an "ASIC" coming out doesn't look reputable at all (businesses w/ just PO boxes and unanswered phones, not being registered with the state(s) business dept., etc. etc). I mean is there any actual proof that they are on their way? And if so, why are they all operating so shadily!?
Welcome to the world of Bitcoin where just about everything about it is shady, most stuff you see is some sort of scam, and every 'girl' on the forum is some fat dude sitting at his keyboard covered in Cheetos dust. Enjoy the ride... |
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hardcore-fs
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November 16, 2012, 09:49:12 AM |
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Actually idiot boy...... 1. They show some pick and place machines being MOVED...... and NOTHING else. 2. Pick and place machines have very little if NOTHING to do with the availability of ASIC chips, the same way Ladders have little to do with Apple production. HC |
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itsgoldbaby
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November 16, 2012, 03:48:58 PM |
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I have not seen any proof yet, but I check this forum everyday for hopes of seeing something from any company. I don't even care which company shows a unit hashing, just damn man someone let me see it hashing!  |
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hardcore-fs
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November 17, 2012, 03:16:52 AM |
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I have not seen any proof yet, but I check this forum everyday for hopes of seeing something from any company. I don't even care which company shows a unit hashing, just damn man someone let me see it hashing! SHA256 has been AVAILABLE in ASICS for a good many years, what has not been available is the WILL and RESEARCH to correctly evaluate the systems available and then convert them into finished mining products. I.E Computer code, faster computers, GPU research for other fields converted into bit-coin mining, FPGA's, now ASIC's. The growth has been 'organic'......... Whilst all along ASICS were available for SHA256 PRIOR to the implementation of the bit-coin system. |
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November 17, 2012, 03:21:27 AM |
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Good news people! Here are my order updates from bASIC. Order ID: 983 & 1371 Date Ordered: 12/10/2012 Your order has been updated to the following status: Ready To Ship To view your order click on the link below: http://www.btcfpga.com/index.php?route=account/order/info&order_id=1371The comments for your order are: Hello, we are excited to let you know that your order and payment has been processed. Your shipping invoice has been printed and will be ready to go when your bASIC has been assembled and released from test. Thank you for your business! The BTCFPGA Team Please reply to this email if you have any questions. |
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hardcore-fs
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November 17, 2012, 03:44:21 AM |
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Good news people! Here are my order updates from bASIC. Order ID: 983 & 1371 Date Ordered: 12/10/2012 Your order has been updated to the following status: Ready To Ship To view your order click on the link below: http://www.btcfpga.com/index.php?route=account/order/info&order_id=1371The comments for your order are: Hello, we are excited to let you know that your order and payment has been processed. Your shipping invoice has been printed and will be ready to go when your bASIC has been assembled and released from test. Thank you for your business! The BTCFPGA Team Please reply to this email if you have any questions. It means FUCK all, I also have one of those.(and my order ID is WAY lower) BY LAW........ Credit cards/ some other forms of payment CANNOT be fully processed UNTIL an invoice has been printed and the goods are consigned to shipping, otherwise it is fraud. SO........ |
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phr33
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November 17, 2012, 10:54:14 AM |
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I think we will see the first public ASICs in mid december. But I realize I'm a bit optimistic with that thought  |
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poon-TANG
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November 18, 2012, 01:44:53 PM |
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I hope your right and we see something before the split
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Meatball
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November 18, 2012, 03:21:30 PM |
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I hope your right and we see something before the split
Ah, that's likely not going to happen. Split is just about 7 days out. Assuming they had them completed, boxed and shipped out even early this week, with the US holiday on Thursday throwing off shipping, there's an extremely slim chance they'd get in anyone's hands in under a week. |
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November 22, 2012, 06:38:17 AM |
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If the ASICs turn out to be a scam, the scam side here will be all over the forum with "I told you so"s.
I wonder what will they say if the ASICs don't turn out to be a scam? As I don't think anyone from the asic side were 100% sure, so can't say I told you so.
Bitcoin is like a variation of Schrödinger's Cat. Everything about it is both scam and fully legit at the same time until you open the box. Oh man I recieved a few of those boxes and I felt sick as I pulled the stuffed yellow pages books out of them. My friends that gathered all around never even laughed they all gasped..... It was packed so well too. |
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opentoe
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November 23, 2012, 03:40:32 AM |
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We all know the guys operating those machines and all the people in that building will be grabbing ASIC boards soon as they are done and be mining at home that night. If there is one thing you can count on and trust in it is people being GREEDY. There will be many ASIC boards out there mining away probably weeks before the official ones are shipped out. Also, if they are just getting delivered the hardware that makes the boards then from experience it takes a few months to get everything configured and up and running. |
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creativex
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November 23, 2012, 03:44:30 AM |
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Nah, BFL claims they're outsourcing board construction for the first batch...fortunately or there may be some delays.<ducks>
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abeaulieu
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November 23, 2012, 03:41:32 PM |
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Nah, BFL claims they're outsourcing board construction for the first batch...fortunately or there may be some delays.<ducks>
I don't believe the PCB fabrication or population is really the bottleneck. They seem to be waiting for the ASIC spin to complete (with a functional chip). After that, the population of the PCBs could take a bit :/ |
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creativex
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November 23, 2012, 03:46:43 PM |
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Nah, BFL claims they're outsourcing board construction for the first batch...fortunately or there may be some delays.<ducks>
I don't believe the PCB fabrication or population is really the bottleneck. They seem to be waiting for the ASIC spin to complete (with a functional chip). After that, the population of the PCBs could take a bit :/ Agreed. They ain't saying much, but that's what it seems like. |
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