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October 02, 2015, 10:18:39 PM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
Things are different for a revenue sharing program. You share profit with a casino even if it is negative. 10% of the house edge is common practice for a dice site affiliate program.
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October 02, 2015, 10:25:31 PM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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October 02, 2015, 10:31:05 PM |
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maybe you play too fast. gambling takes patience and luck. good luck next time guys
I would not even suggest that.. at all. If the affiliate earned based of other peoples winning or loss, why not just keep the 4 btc. Youre already at a loss if you think you`ll win..
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October 02, 2015, 11:08:40 PM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter.
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October 02, 2015, 11:21:14 PM |
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So just seeing this makes me want to cringe.
But the moral is that no one ever really comes out at the top even if given referral btc to work with.. makes me want to stay away from gambling sites even more.
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October 03, 2015, 03:19:46 AM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter. There are some lucky players can win big from casinos and sportsbook, I am one of them, i am up to 20BTC int total since I gamble, I started btc gamble from last year, and I am still profitable in this year, be rich is not impossible at least to me, of course those whales are more profitable than me.
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October 06, 2015, 01:42:09 AM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter. There are some lucky players can win big from casinos and sportsbook, I am one of them, i am up to 20BTC int total since I gamble, I started btc gamble from last year, and I am still profitable in this year, be rich is not impossible at least to me, of course those whales are more profitable than me. well what was your intial starting balance? I`m sure it had to be 5 btc minimum.. or have a decent bankroll to work with. 20 btc is huge, are you still going to press your luck though? lol.
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October 06, 2015, 04:36:23 AM |
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Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time. Takes some swallowing. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff21%2F16%2F11%2F23%2F28%2Fscreen10.jpg&t=665&c=LSxsIr0f118iQA) lol, thx to your referrals you owe +4 btc to the site, that's absurd. Dude he doesn't owe them anything it just means he won't make anything until they loose enough money to get out of minus stats don't worry it doesn't take long at all I have only 3 people that signed up under me and in the last six months I have made almost 5 BTC with all his he'll be making money in no time
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October 06, 2015, 04:37:53 AM |
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I have won over 30 btc at bitcasino.io since jan And got the Lego Simpson house (m.s.r.p 199$) as a vip gift for my kids
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StevenLiang
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October 06, 2015, 03:43:50 PM |
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Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time. Takes some swallowing. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) I would say same you need not to worry in the on long term they will loose and their loss will be your profit. When someone gets easy money he can not stay away much time to make more from that. Easy came money goes easily too. Just have patience and you will be in positive balance. Regards.
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fox19891989
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October 06, 2015, 05:08:18 PM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter. There are some lucky players can win big from casinos and sportsbook, I am one of them, i am up to 20BTC int total since I gamble, I started btc gamble from last year, and I am still profitable in this year, be rich is not impossible at least to me, of course those whales are more profitable than me. well what was your intial starting balance? I`m sure it had to be 5 btc minimum.. or have a decent bankroll to work with. 20 btc is huge, are you still going to press your luck though? lol. Last year I made crazy multiple money of dice, I made 40X of my deposit, and earned 10BTC, so my deposit was only 0.25btc, and this year I earned 1.5 btc from no deposit bonus, and others are made from sportsbook, mainly bet on tennis.
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October 07, 2015, 02:58:59 AM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter. There are some lucky players can win big from casinos and sportsbook, I am one of them, i am up to 20BTC int total since I gamble, I started btc gamble from last year, and I am still profitable in this year, be rich is not impossible at least to me, of course those whales are more profitable than me. well what was your intial starting balance? I`m sure it had to be 5 btc minimum.. or have a decent bankroll to work with. 20 btc is huge, are you still going to press your luck though? lol. Last year I made crazy multiple money of dice, I made 40X of my deposit, and earned 10BTC, so my deposit was only 0.25btc, and this year I earned 1.5 btc from no deposit bonus, and others are made from sportsbook, mainly bet on tennis. Wow, you are extremely lucky with gambling. (Not too lucky with referrals though ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) have you ever thought of creating a new cloudbet account just for referrals? You can use that one for now, and if you ever come out of the negative on this account you can always come back to it.
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October 07, 2015, 03:04:56 AM |
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From where did you get these master gamblers as referrals?
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StevenLiang
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October 07, 2015, 03:40:35 AM |
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From where did you get these master gamblers as referrals?
Too many lucky players nowadays. I will try my luck with some bets too! As we know, it's easy to get refs from popular website ads. " where did you get these master gamblers as referrals?" The answer is: by luck ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 07, 2015, 04:38:06 AM |
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how does the odds work out for affiliates? if you have more sign ups that means you have more chances to lose no?
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October 08, 2015, 11:09:35 AM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) What if this supe aff is really cloudbet hat decided u made too much? Don't worry, the thought has crossed my mind. I find it incredible that I can be in negative balance for 11 months with so much bitcoin being turned over regularly. Cloudbet are supposed to win, not the punter. There are some lucky players can win big from casinos and sportsbook, I am one of them, i am up to 20BTC int total since I gamble, I started btc gamble from last year, and I am still profitable in this year, be rich is not impossible at least to me, of course those whales are more profitable than me. well what was your intial starting balance? I`m sure it had to be 5 btc minimum.. or have a decent bankroll to work with. 20 btc is huge, are you still going to press your luck though? lol. Last year I made crazy multiple money of dice, I made 40X of my deposit, and earned 10BTC, so my deposit was only 0.25btc, and this year I earned 1.5 btc from no deposit bonus, and others are made from sportsbook, mainly bet on tennis. That is some serious cash man, congrats!
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October 08, 2015, 11:51:53 AM |
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Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time. Takes some swallowing. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff21%2F16%2F11%2F23%2F28%2Fscreen10.jpg&t=665&c=LSxsIr0f118iQA) You are not the world's unluckiest affiliate partner but you are only the most world's honest person. No one win in gambling. Only that the others hide the true and don't tell that they have lost. They are so "proud" to be gambler people and have not the will to leave it that tell that the losers are only they who don't known this "profession". They lose regularly but have always money to lose (only they know the sources). So has no importance if they win or lose. Important is to gamble. Please abandon gambling. You will never had profit from this "profession".
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joksim299
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October 08, 2015, 11:56:44 AM |
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how does the odds work out for affiliates? if you have more sign ups that means you have more chances to lose no?
For Revenue Share program, earning are not guaranteed. If you have more sign ups your earnings should be higher, but one from the referred players may win Jackpot and your stats will never go to positive.
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199 deposited ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Wow i've never seen such money in my life. Your revenue should be booming just for the sole reason you sent so many loaded people to the casino.
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October 08, 2015, 12:28:42 PM |
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I really don't understand the dynamics here. Why would you lose money when your referrals win bets? Ref earning must be at fixed rate, even if they lose/win you have to get %1 or something like that. I know that most sites use this technique.
With Cloudbet, you get 30% of the amount your punters lose.....up until about a year ago I was regularly cashing in a bit of commission every week or so....then all of a sudden, a winning whale signed up through my site and you can see the rest! I just can't understand why these sort of guys never have losing runs so I can get back into the black on my account........It is absurd....when you take into account the house edge (be it casino, games, dice or sportsbook) they are defying the laws of probability with the returns they get long term on their bets. I have had a growing negative commission for exactly 11 months now. As I originally said.....am I the unluckiest affiliate ever? ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) It could be insider, too. If you gain a lot of profit from your referrals they tried to cut your earnings. They can do this by joinin with your affiliate link and made rigged bets. It's too easy for them if they choose this way.
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