Am I the world's unluckiest affiliate partner?

[tonyq]

Stay strong, Tony. It will turn around for you!

Cloudbet

Stay strong?
My last paid commission was nearly a year ago now!
Do these punters have crystal balls?
 

You told me to stay strong 6 months ago........well here we are with the latest update:
These are the figures for this year (just over 3 months):




As can be seen, my sign ups are still giving Cloudbet a hammering, just as they have been for 17 solid months now.
To me, this is just impossible....Cloudbet would go under in no time at all if these returns to the punter on turnover were repeated by all their customers.
Is it just people that signed  up with me that are constant winners?

Now look at my overall figures as they now stand:



I'm supposed to believe my 57 sign ups have deposited and bet $101,962 in bitcoin in three years and had $103,780 returned but all Cloudbet's other punters are losing overall to keep them in profit and cover my losses in doing so?
As I said, I'm either the world's unluckiest affiliate by a million miles or something isn't right.
On that turnover in 3 years, surely I should have seen my affiliates losing around roughly 18 bitcoin which would have given me 6 bitcoin in commission.

[Boosterious]

Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time.
Takes some swallowing.
 

i'm never trying cloudbet,and its really interesting affiliate program,but how can its have minus?
you have doing great,more than 50 person have registered under your affiliate,that good job,but yes you are not lucky

[SyGambler]

Stay strong, Tony. It will turn around for you!

Cloudbet

Stay strong?
My last paid commission was nearly a year ago now!
Do these punters have crystal balls?
 

You told me to stay strong 6 months ago........well here we are with the latest update:
These are the figures for this year (just over 3 months):




As can be seen, my sign ups are still giving Cloudbet a hammering, just as they have been for 17 solid months now.
To me, this is just impossible....Cloudbet would go under in no time at all if these returns to the punter on turnover were repeated by all their customers.
Is it just people that signed  up with me that are constant winners?

Now look at my overall figures as they now stand:



I'm supposed to believe my 57 sign ups have deposited and bet $101,962 in bitcoin in three years and had $103,780 returned but all Cloudbet's other punters are losing overall to keep them in profit and cover my losses in doing so?
As I said, I'm either the world's unluckiest affiliate by a million miles or something isn't right.
On that turnover in 3 years, surely I should have seen my affiliates losing around roughly 18 bitcoin which would have given me 6 bitcoin in commission.

well this now started to look fishy , I have never seen such a thing but also I have never tried Cloudbet
maybe you should research more about this , try to see if there are other people having the same thing
it may be normal though , but the stats are really weird

[Navesh Sapad]

How can anybodies affiliate commission be in negative ? I dont understand . Can anybody explain me ? I actually thought of making this as business. Hmm should think a bit about it now .

[tonyq]

How can anybodies affiliate commission be in negative ? I dont understand . Can anybody explain me ? I actually thought of making this as business. Hmm should think a bit about it now .

I have had payments of over 3 bitcoin in the three years I've been getting the sign ups that I have withdrawn 'as it has become available' but because of the amount of winnings my sign ups have accumulated in the last 17 months my current balance stands at -5.6 bitcoin.
This means they have to lose that amount between them before I ever get any more payments. It has dropped to -3.5 or thereabouts now and then but always creeps back up into the minus  6-7 bitcoin area......I just find it amazing that so many people can be in so much profit between them. It defies all known gambling logic.
Remember if I hadn't drawn out the 3 bitcoin in bits and pieces as I have I would be looking at having earned nothing in 3 years of being a partner....in fact I'd be in the red.
Cloudbet don't ask for that money back if you are but as I say, I was earning ok up until 17 months ago but since then...........zilch.
 
 

[Navesh Sapad]

How can anybodies affiliate commission be in negative ? I dont understand . Can anybody explain me ? I actually thought of making this as business. Hmm should think a bit about it now .

I have had payments of over 3 bitcoin in the three years I've been getting the sign ups that I have withdrawn 'as it has become available' but because of the amount of winnings my sign ups have accumulated in the last 17 months my current balance stands at -5.6 bitcoin.
This means they have to lose that amount between them before I ever get any more payments. It has dropped to -3.5 or thereabouts now and then but always creeps back up into the minus  6-7 bitcoin area......I just find it amazing that so many people can be in so much profit between them. It defies all known gambling logic.
Remember if I hadn't drawn out the 3 bitcoin in bits and pieces as I have I would be looking at having earned nothing in 3 years of being a partner....in fact I'd be in the red.
Cloudbet don't ask for that money back if you are but as I say, I was earning ok up until 17 months ago but since then...........zilch.
 
 

Holy shit . I never thought affiliate program could be like this . This is not the same in directbet . DIrectbet pays you for each and every bet , whether your referral wins or looses , it doesn't matter . I like that .

[tonyq]

Dear Cloudbet..............I sill can't log onto this affilliate programme!
About 6 weeks now......why is my password no longer working?

[olubams]

What kind of affiliate platform is this that one has to wish those who signs under him lost for him to earn something rather than hoping they prosper. Anyways, the gambling site is very ingenious as they dont want to lose on both ends. Losing by paying out winnings and also paying the referrer but here we can both be happy http://csl.ink/2ec6

[plpbtc1526]

Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time.
Takes some swallowing.
 

Ouch, you have lost 8 btc plus 4 btc as a commision? Thats gonna hurt. You to wait a long time to earn it back. Anyway, thats investment. You have spread your bankroll. Not on one site only so you can recover when you.lose at one site. Investment is risky, dont invest if you wanna risk.

[altcoinlambo]

How can anybodies affiliate commission be in negative ? I dont understand . Can anybody explain me ? I actually thought of making this as business. Hmm should think a bit about it now .

2 Modes of affiliate programs.

1. is like this, profit-share program, downlines win, we are negative, they lose, we are positive.
2. like nitrogen has, calculated by total wagers, earn 0.X% of total wager. This is low margin bookie offers, like fiat bookie pinnacle.

[OneHash]

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[raaajlucky]

Just look at my cloudbet affiliate figures for all time.
Takes some swallowing.
 

Ouch, you have lost 8 btc plus 4 btc as a commision? Thats gonna hurt. You to wait a long time to earn it back. Anyway, thats investment. You have spread your bankroll. Not on one site only so you can recover when you.lose at one site. Investment is risky, dont invest if you wanna risk.

Yup, i can't imagine this risk. But well he tried something to make money, it failed. Yes, he has to wait more time to earn this loss. 8 BTC is not a small amount. Investing also risk and gambling also risk. so where should we can make money with Bitcoin. I am confusing.

[tonyq]

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

[marlboroza]

I don't understand how referral commission can go negative. Referral rewards are something sites are paying to you because you get them new users, not to take money from you.

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

You are blaming people because they are wining? Its strange world we are living in.

[Raimonn]

I don't understand how referral commission can go negative. Referral rewards are something sites are paying to you because you get them new users, not to take money from you.

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

You are blaming people because they are wining? Its strange world we are living in.

I understand that he only earns his commission when its referral users loose bitcoins. Because that he prefers that they loose. But i never saw referral system like this site where you can have negative referrals rewards.

[The_Dark_Knight]

With that many referrals you will eventually make money, they had good luck which in turn thanks to that particular affiliate program translated in bad luck for you.

[tonyq]

I don't understand how referral commission can go negative. Referral rewards are something sites are paying to you because you get them new users, not to take money from you.

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

You are blaming people because they are wining? Its strange world we are living in.

I'm not blaming them I just can't believe that all Cloudbet's other punters are keeping them in profit by losing, I would guess,  around 10% on turnover, which is average.......... but my 57 are continually making money from  betting year after year!

[EdenHazard]

I don't understand how referral commission can go negative. Referral rewards are something sites are paying to you because you get them new users, not to take money from you.

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

You are blaming people because they are wining? Its strange world we are living in.

I'm not blaming them I just can't believe that all Cloudbet's other punters are keeping them in profit by losing, I would guess,  around 10% on turnover, which is average.......... but my 57 are continually making money from  betting year after year!

they just have a bigger luck than you , i know that feeling to did not believe on all of your downline not provide you a single penny , it is feel like you get cheated by the affiliate provider isn' it?

however have you checked/confirm them all manually? i mean to ask affiliate provider in case there something wrong.

[DarkStar_]

Latest update:
My 57 sign ups have generated me NO COMMISSION in the last TWO YEARS  and my minus figure is now over ELEVEN BITCOIN!
How the hell can these people collectively  keep on  winning for so long??.........Goes against all the mathematics of betting.
It stinks.
 

That really sucks for you, to spend all that time getting affiliates just to end up gaining nothing. (or a very small amount). Have you considered asking Cloudbet to switch you to their other affiliate option, where you get 0.2% (I think) of every sports bet? Less variance for a lesser reward, compared to your current option.

[tonyq]

Looking at my current affiliate reports, in the last 16 days alone my sportsbook punters have laid out 27 btc and taken back 49 btc!!.........a profit on turnover of a fraction under 80%!
They must be time travellers with copies of the following day's results!.....This has been going on now for two solid years...That's when I last had a payment.