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February 11, 2017, 05:59:53 AM |
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Not all can lose in a long run, because some smart people can win in a long run, some of them playing small bet in every game. So they can also play a lot times and some of their games win. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well, for me they all lose. Though not money, but for sure, they lose time, or sometimes opportunity in real life that they could have done if they are not busy betting. In fact, when you are betting, if you compute all your bets, either win or lose, I am sure that the lose has more weight compared to your wins, though it just feels like we are a winner when we win once and it is big. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 11, 2017, 06:22:11 AM |
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Not all can lose in a long run, because some smart people can win in a long run, some of them playing small bet in every game. So they can also play a lot times and some of their games win. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That's true because only majority of us loses in the long run, there are few who can use their skills and be profitable in the long run. Gambling games are not only focus with one type of game, there are luck based and skilled based games, with skilled based games, the success rate are greater than luck based, so smart gambler would prefer to do it to employ their skills.
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February 11, 2017, 06:49:28 AM |
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as long as you play on a game that have a house edge which it's has -EV , i'm sure you wouldn't have fun at all and never get profit in the long run. but you can try a game like poker or sportsbetting which has +EV , at least you would have better chance to fight for your luck there instead against house edge that honestly i think it's never ending.
If sportsbetting has EV+ house edge then everyone will win and no one will open up sportsbook site. Does this even make sense to you? because it doesnt to me, you might need to make some math calculation for this. Even if you do few math calculation, you wont really see sportsbet as an EV+ game of course i do, there a lot of things to do to make sportsbetting +EV , like to looking for a news that could affected the team/player form , statistics , head to head etc all of them need to be analyzed then you would have a +EV there. it's doesn't mean everyone would win just because a game have +EV , then makes sense now? This is correct the house has an advantage over the player but the player can overcome the house advantage by being able to better determine the real chances of something happening, like what team is going to win and getting an edge for himself but it is not easy and not everyone can get it. You cannot beat the house advantage, that is there main weapon which give them the opportunity to last in the business longer. If you really want to win, go with games that there is not house edge and that is a skilled based games, in that way, you can develop your skills as you stay longer. yes there are very little chances to beat the house edge. they have only the advantage of house edge from where they are making money. therefore i do not think that it is so easy to beat the house edge. and yes gambling games is the best option if you want to avoid the house edge. where you have some more opportunities of making money.
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February 11, 2017, 08:47:28 AM |
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Not all can lose in a long run, because some smart people can win in a long run, some of them playing small bet in every game.
Playing small bet is nothing smart. Thinking that you will not lose big is acceptable but in the same time you will also never win anything much decent in size. So they can also play a lot times and some of their games win. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sure thing but even then the number of losses they incur is in total bigger than the number of wins. Not considering a winning jackpot you will just be collecting dust amounts if you lay in this manner. The best thing to do is to cash out early and chase losses.
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February 11, 2017, 08:51:16 AM |
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Not all can lose in a long run, because some smart people can win in a long run, some of them playing small bet in every game. So they can also play a lot times and some of their games win. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That is about the chance of winning but still they will end up losing in the long run, believe me. Because I was also a small bettor but it maybe effective for sometime but the house has always the favor on it and its hard to beat. When you experience complete losing, your feeling will trigger and you just want to keep on gambling.
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February 11, 2017, 09:36:59 AM |
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When you experience complete losing, your feeling will trigger and you just want to keep on gambling.
That only happen when you still have fund to do so, if you dont then it is not going to happen. There is no doubt that this affect people alot however bear in your mind that gambling isnt supposed to make you win, if you lose then it is part of the game. It is also fine to do so when you can afford what you gamble
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February 11, 2017, 03:48:05 PM |
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Not everyone. Some people get away with a constant streak of luck and then they retire with the millions they make, those are the winners that know when to stop, and that is the key right there to glory: have a few lucky strikes, be it in gambling or investments or anything else, then retire and never gamble again and live from passive income.
yes there are so may pople who are playing gambling for a long time and most of them are treating bitcoin as their profession and they are depending on it for living. and i personally know so many people who are really passing a standard life in gambling. so i do not think that everyone loses in the long run. may be the majority of the people are losing but not all the people.
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February 11, 2017, 05:19:33 PM |
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Well yeah we all know it that if you put too much time on gambling even if you are winning almost every game in the gambling, There will always be a time that you would certainly.
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February 11, 2017, 05:25:11 PM |
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Well yeah we all know it that if you put too much time on gambling even if you are winning almost every game in the gambling, There will always be a time that you would certainly.
Gambling is really design for its players to lose in the long run thats the thing we should really expect when were playing gambling and we should not aim always on making money because there are times that we are lucky to make money but we should know on when to quit and secure profits.
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February 12, 2017, 03:40:07 AM |
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as long as you play on a game that have a house edge which it's has -EV , i'm sure you wouldn't have fun at all and never get profit in the long run. but you can try a game like poker or sportsbetting which has +EV , at least you would have better chance to fight for your luck there instead against house edge that honestly i think it's never ending.
If sportsbetting has EV+ house edge then everyone will win and no one will open up sportsbook site. Does this even make sense to you? because it doesnt to me, you might need to make some math calculation for this. Even if you do few math calculation, you wont really see sportsbet as an EV+ game of course i do, there a lot of things to do to make sportsbetting +EV , like to looking for a news that could affected the team/player form , statistics , head to head etc all of them need to be analyzed then you would have a +EV there. it's doesn't mean everyone would win just because a game have +EV , then makes sense now? This is correct the house has an advantage over the player but the player can overcome the house advantage by being able to better determine the real chances of something happening, like what team is going to win and getting an edge for himself but it is not easy and not everyone can get it. You cannot beat the house advantage, that is there main weapon which give them the opportunity to last in the business longer. If you really want to win, go with games that there is not house edge and that is a skilled based games, in that way, you can develop your skills as you stay longer. Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.
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February 12, 2017, 05:36:40 AM |
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Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.
What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run
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February 12, 2017, 05:39:30 AM |
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Well yeah we all know it that if you put too much time on gambling even if you are winning almost every game in the gambling, There will always be a time that you would certainly.
Gambling is really design for its players to lose in the long run thats the thing we should really expect when were playing gambling and we should not aim always on making money because there are times that we are lucky to make money but we should know on when to quit and secure profits. Gambling websites were developed with huge investments. So they'll make strategies to get the profit out of it. This makes the users not to get continued winning or earning good. So whether long term or short run sure every gambler experiences loss in gambling at some point.
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February 12, 2017, 09:22:10 AM |
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Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.
What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run No one can beat the house edge no matter what. I would like to verify the evidence this person is talking about since its mathematically impossible to beat a house edge in casino games which are based on outcome. If you keep playing them thinking your luck to be on your side and/or you won something big, get ready to get wiped off all your balances because of the house edge.
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February 12, 2017, 10:05:03 AM |
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Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.
What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run No one can beat the house edge no matter what. I would like to verify the evidence this person is talking about since its mathematically impossible to beat a house edge in casino games which are based on outcome. If you keep playing them thinking your luck to be on your side and/or you won something big, get ready to get wiped off all your balances because of the house edge. Yeah no one can beat the house edge that's why it's better to play with lowest house edge like blackjack, or you can try sports betting, I love that both games since it's don't require so much luck, basically it needs knowledge and strategy in that games.
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February 12, 2017, 11:08:22 AM |
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Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.
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February 12, 2017, 11:11:27 AM |
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Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.
It's unavoidable. Usually when you are into betting and your emotion/feeling is there, your control is starting to loose. But in anyway you look at gambling, you will lose in the long run. Maybe not too much money, but for sure you lose time. It's normal for gamblers, but for none gamblers who just try to gamble, they feel bad when they lose time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 12, 2017, 12:05:38 PM |
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Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.
It's unavoidable. Usually when you are into betting and your emotion/feeling is there, your control is starting to loose. But in anyway you look at gambling, you will lose in the long run. Maybe not too much money, but for sure you lose time. It's normal for gamblers, but for none gamblers who just try to gamble, they feel bad when they lose time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thus is silly, when you lose you blame that you guys lose control of your emotion and when you win you guys said it is luck. To be honest, it has nothing to do with your emotion because if you are supposed to win then you supposed to win no matter how huge you are wagering and how your emotion affected you
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markyminer
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February 12, 2017, 03:28:30 PM |
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Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.
What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run yes there is no way to beat the house edge but the can do that. if you are lucky you can beat the house edge. actually casinos depend on house edge, they can continue to run their casino on house edge, if they will not receive the house edge they will not be able to run their casino for some time. but i think they should also give some benefit to customers if they want to attract customers. and if they will not give benefit to their customers then they will lose their trust on their casinos.
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February 12, 2017, 04:17:43 PM |
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When you experience complete losing, your feeling will trigger and you just want to keep on gambling.
That only happen when you still have fund to do so, if you dont then it is not going to happen. There is no doubt that this affect people alot however bear in your mind that gambling isnt supposed to make you win, if you lose then it is part of the game. It is also fine to do so when you can afford what you gamble There are gamblers that are doing it even they don't have fund to do so. They are doing everything and keeps on putting idea on their minds that they can simply recover their losses on the same way of gambling. It's hard to believe that there are people that are in this situation, they are not realizing that most of us are just losing in the end.
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February 12, 2017, 09:00:56 PM |
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When you experience complete losing, your feeling will trigger and you just want to keep on gambling.
That only happen when you still have fund to do so, if you dont then it is not going to happen. There is no doubt that this affect people alot however bear in your mind that gambling isnt supposed to make you win, if you lose then it is part of the game. It is also fine to do so when you can afford what you gamble There are gamblers that are doing it even they don't have fund to do so. They are doing everything and keeps on putting idea on their minds that they can simply recover their losses on the same way of gambling. It's hard to believe that there are people that are in this situation, they are not realizing that most of us are just losing in the end. because of this, a game still better than gambling even the game need some depo before to play it..
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