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[Herbert]

100.000 Bets!

Gratulations! This morning player alonsoj15 placed bet number 100.000!

Time for a short comparison:

• On SDice these bets would have resulted in 100.000 payout transactions, of which ~50.000 would be just dust spam to notify that you lost.
• On bitbattle.me these bets resulted in 4570 payout transaction. And not a single dust spam.

So you should know where to gamble if you care about blockchain bloat...

[ingrownpocket]

I wanted to have the bet #100,000.
But I didn't have any money on my wallet at that time, just if I was home   

[AvL42]

On SDice these bets would have resulted in 100.000 payout transactions, of which ~50.000 would be just dust spam to notify that you lost.

In principle, Erik pays tx-fees for the loss-payments. He pays them from the edge.
You don't have to pay them.  How much lower is your edge compared to Erik's?

Even if you kept all these savings for yourself, you'd still be "good guy" for not
polluting the blockchain, but if your edge reflected your lower expenses, by being
noticably lower, then that might well attract more customers...

just speculating.

[Herbert]

I wanted to have the bet #100,000.
But I didn't have any money on my wallet at that time, just if I was home   

No problem, next hot bet number is #1,000,000

[Herbert]

On SDice these bets would have resulted in 100.000 payout transactions, of which ~50.000 would be just dust spam to notify that you lost.

In principle, Erik pays tx-fees for the loss-payments. He pays them from the edge.
You don't have to pay them.  How much lower is your edge compared to Erik's?

There is 0.1% difference (Erik takes 1.9%, I take 1.8%).  But I did not calculate the Tx Fee difference in detail, so I can't tell if my overall edge is better than SDice.
But I can tell you that statistics are not on my side so far. Since beginning of the year house edge is way below the theoretical 1.8%. At the moment I am at impressive 0.73%

Even if you kept all these savings for yourself, you'd still be "good guy" for not
polluting the blockchain, but if your edge reflected your lower expenses, by being
noticably lower, then that might well attract more customers...

just speculating.

Maybe you are right, but with the statistical variance there is not much room for lowering the house edge withouth further increasing the risk of going negative...

[Herbert]

Another update rolled out today:

• Display improvements: All bitcoin amounts are now rounded to 4 digits instead of 3 digits and have a tooltip with the exact amount on mouse-over.
• Socket.io-based API available! Check out the documentation at http://bitbattle.me/api/
• Open-source sample bot written in python including simple martingale strategy available on GitHub.

The API is quite extensive and contains the same information that is used on the website to display the session progress. To get started check out the sample bot implementation (Direct download as zip: https://github.com/TripleSpeeder/bitbattlebot/archive/master.zip). There is a skeleton bot that is only listening for events and can be used as a starting point for individual bots, and a martingale bot based on the skeleton bot that implements a very simple martingale strategy.

20-round martingale bot run, starting each round with a stake 0.001 and limiting max bet to 1.0:

Code:

stingray ~/dev/bitbattlebot $ python martingalebot.py 8d735c925ea0431b984055b2b42bccb1 http://<censored>:<censored>@localhost:<censored> 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r 0.001 1.0 20
Connected. Now subscribing to player channel 8d735c925ea0431b984055b2b42bccb1
Joined channel 8d735c925ea0431b984055b2b42bccb1. Now starting bot.
Starting round 1!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 2301, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 2!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 2w/0l/48r - Stake: 0.00200000 - Payout: 0.00342800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 46289, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 2w/1l/47r - Stake: 0.00300000 - Payout: 0.00342800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 46704, result: False, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00400000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 2w/2l/46r - Stake: 0.00500000 - Payout: 0.00292800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 7250, result: True, stake: 0.00400000, win: 0.00785600
Starting round 3!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 3w/2l/45r - Stake: 0.00900000 - Payout: 0.01078400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 1318, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 4!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 4w/2l/44r - Stake: 0.01000000 - Payout: 0.01274800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 21080, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 5!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 5w/2l/43r - Stake: 0.01100000 - Payout: 0.01471200
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 9757, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 6!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 6w/2l/42r - Stake: 0.01200000 - Payout: 0.01667600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 41832, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 6w/3l/41r - Stake: 0.01300000 - Payout: 0.01667600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 22893, result: True, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00392800
Starting round 7!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 7w/3l/40r - Stake: 0.01500000 - Payout: 0.02010400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 19953, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 8!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 8w/3l/39r - Stake: 0.01600000 - Payout: 0.02206800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 50302, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 8w/4l/38r - Stake: 0.01700000 - Payout: 0.02206800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 28751, result: True, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00392800
Starting round 9!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 9w/4l/37r - Stake: 0.01900000 - Payout: 0.02599600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 49097, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 9w/5l/36r - Stake: 0.02000000 - Payout: 0.02599600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 3881, result: True, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00392800
Starting round 10!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 10w/5l/35r - Stake: 0.02200000 - Payout: 0.02942400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 18600, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 11!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 11w/5l/34r - Stake: 0.02300000 - Payout: 0.03138800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 5543, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 12!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 12w/5l/33r - Stake: 0.02400000 - Payout: 0.03335200
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 15509, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 13!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 13w/5l/32r - Stake: 0.02500000 - Payout: 0.03531600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 53076, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 13w/6l/31r - Stake: 0.02600000 - Payout: 0.03531600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 34125, result: False, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00400000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 13w/7l/30r - Stake: 0.02800000 - Payout: 0.03531600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 53901, result: False, stake: 0.00400000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00800000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 13w/8l/29r - Stake: 0.03200000 - Payout: 0.03481600
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 14787, result: True, stake: 0.00800000, win: 0.01571200
Starting round 14!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 14w/8l/28r - Stake: 0.04000000 - Payout: 0.05052800
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 29104, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 15!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 15w/8l/27r - Stake: 0.04100000 - Payout: 0.05249200
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 46723, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 15w/9l/26r - Stake: 0.04200000 - Payout: 0.05249200
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 14861, result: True, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00392800
Starting round 16!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 16w/9l/25r - Stake: 0.04400000 - Payout: 0.05642000
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 19850, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 17!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 17w/9l/24r - Stake: 0.04500000 - Payout: 0.05788400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 50651, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 17w/10l/23r - Stake: 0.04600000 - Payout: 0.05788400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 60010, result: False, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00400000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 17w/11l/22r - Stake: 0.04800000 - Payout: 0.05788400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 24424, result: True, stake: 0.00400000, win: 0.00785600
Starting round 18!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 18w/11l/21r - Stake: 0.05200000 - Payout: 0.06574000
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 13418, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Starting round 19!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 19w/11l/20r - Stake: 0.05300000 - Payout: 0.06770400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 60132, result: False, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00000000
Betting 0.00200000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 19w/12l/19r - Stake: 0.05400000 - Payout: 0.06770400
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 23445, result: True, stake: 0.00200000, win: 0.00392800
Starting round 20!
Betting 0.00100000 on 1JczM9rH98Fe6YYqF39r89yS2f5gJHW63r
[Sessionstate]: 20w/12l/18r - Stake: 0.05600000 - Payout: 0.07113200
[Bet]: lessthan32768, drawn: 30550, result: True, stake: 0.00100000, win: 0.00196400
Last round finished.
Disconnecting...
(bitbattlebot)stingray ~/dev/bitbattlebot $ 

See http://bitbattle.me/player/herbertsbot/ for the related session.

[Herbert]

Another API piece now online: Now it is possible to obtain bet addresses, win odds etc of your player in json-format. Just take your dashboard url and append

Code:

/json/

at the end.

Sample link: http://bitbattle.me/player/herbert/json/

Check out the new section "Player information" in the API description.

[Herbert]

bitbattle.me is now online without any noteworthy incident for almost 6 months, having served 105,000+ bets in more than 6,000 sessions. While I consider this a great success, unfortunately the net result is not really overwhelming so far. Basically I am still struggling with keeping a positive net result. Therefor I am now raising the house edge from 1.8% to 1.9%.

This is still in the same range than the competition - And remember that I still offer some outstanding features:

• immediate feedback on any bet
• still accepting unconfirmed transactions
• no blockchain bloat or transaction spamming
• personal statistics and bet addresses
• minimum bet of only 0.001 BTC

So I hope you keep visiting bitbattle.me !

[Zaih]

Have you had any issues with double spending? You seem pretty brave accepting 0 conf bets!

[Herbert]

Have you had any issues with double spending? You seem pretty brave accepting 0 conf bets!

Zero problem so far
But I do have multiple measures in place to protect me, some of which are only possible through the usage of individual bet addresses for each player. And of course some obvious like "reject unconfirmed bets that don't have a tx fee" etc.

[Herbert]

Ahrg. Bitcoind has been running for several weeks now without restart - Just today it started making troubles. I am looking into it right now.

[Herbert]

Ahrg. Bitcoind has been running for several weeks now without restart - Just today it started making troubles. I am looking into it right now.

Okay, everything is back to normal again. Pending payments are sent out, all transactions should be handled. If you think a transaction is missing let me know!

[Herbert]

In case this happens to you:
There is a race-condition bug in the code that will create two or more payments for one session. This is considered "impossible" by the payment engine backend and so none of the payments get paid. I have a bugfix for this in the pipeline but not yet on the production system.
I get immediate email notification by the payment engine in case this happens and will always sort this out as soon as possible, but depending on personal state (sleeping/working/etc) and availability of internet access it might take few hours.

This happend 4 times the last week, so it is quite unlikely you encounter this bug, but if it is the case don't panic, you will get your payout 

[Herbert]

In case this happens to you:
There is a race-condition bug in the code that will create two or more payments for one session. This is considered "impossible" by the payment engine backend and so none of the payments get paid. I have a bugfix for this in the pipeline but not yet on the production system.
I get immediate email notification by the payment engine in case this happens and will always sort this out as soon as possible, but depending on personal state (sleeping/working/etc) and availability of internet access it might take few hours.

This happend 4 times the last week, so it is quite unlikely you encounter this bug, but if it is the case don't panic, you will get your payout 

The bugfix is now deployed to production system. Issue should not happen anymore 

[Herbert]

The server is quite loaded at the moment. Not sure yet if this is some DDOS attack or just increased traffic, maybe due to SDice problems...

[Herbert]

The server is quite loaded at the moment. Not sure yet if this is some DDOS attack or just increased traffic, maybe due to SDice problems...

Looks like someone is trying to rip off Anonymous ads by automatically clicking on Ads, resulting in huge traffic. Traffic volume is now almost back to normal again.

[Herbert]

Rolled out another update tonight, which hopefully finally fixes the occasional double payment issue.

(You just have to love multithread-multiprocess-multisite synchronization - So many things you can do wrong... )

[Hfleer]

Ahrg. Bitcoind has been running for several weeks now without restart - Just today it started making troubles. I am looking into it right now.

Okay, everything is back to normal again. Pending payments are sent out, all transactions should be handled. If you think a transaction is missing let me know!

On your website I have a session that says paid, but didn't send, and the transaction can't be found.  
Edit: Shows up now, just took a while.

[Hfleer]

I've played here, since SatoshiDice has been very slow lately.  Seems to work well, but would like to see the number i rolled without having to click on every bet if possible.

[Zaih]

Looks like someone's missing SatoshiDice