Is the new bitcoin forum any good?

[fish731]

All forums are censored to some extent as they all have moderators. Without any moderation any forum would rapidly be overwhelmed by spam posts advertising viagra and payday loans. I joined a forum set up by someone who thought he could do without moderation, and within a week it was so full of advertising spam posts that it was impossible to find the few legitimate posts.

After moderation of a forum starts there will be a small degree of censorship beyond advertising spam, because there is a fine line between that and legitimate posts. What happens when someone tries pumping the latest altcoin in a Bitcoin discussion there? Will the mods let it derail the thread?

[Amph]

no signature campaign there, no fun, i like to post and earn bitcoin directly, without using fiat crap money

I understand your point. But being part of the Bitcoin community and being a member of these forums ins't a job. People share their opinions, help others, and go in depth about the technical aspects of Bitcoin.

why it should not be a job,? no one said that bitcoin job should be the same as a regular job, everything that gives you profit is a job for me

it's not even about greediness, i just find it cool to earn bitcoin in this way, and it perfectly fit with the bitcoin theme

[Nextgen]

keep in mind that the 2 main news sources (bitcointalk + reddit) are controlled by the same young guy. that cant be a good thing.
so it is good to have an alternative.

i want to favourite this tweet or post ...how do i do it.

[1Referee]

no signature campaign there, no fun, i like to post and earn bitcoin directly, without using fiat crap money

I understand your point. But being part of the Bitcoin community and being a member of these forums ins't a job. People share their opinions, help others, and go in depth about the technical aspects of Bitcoin.

why it should not be a job,? no one said that bitcoin job should be the same as a regular job, everything that gives you profit is a job for me

it's not even about greediness, i just find it cool to earn bitcoin in this way, and it perfectly fit with the bitcoin theme

Well, I don't consider earning some bits through signature campaigns a job, which for you is totally different I see. To me it's pure fun earning a few bits and spend them on a domain or something else. It's basically getting rewarded for something you would do anyway.

[DGulari]

I don't think i want to move to another forum for now
Bitcointalk is still alive so no reason for us to move there

The reason to move there is because Theymos wants to single handedly control the community by declaring large block efforts like BIP101 'altcoins' and burying that discussion.  Instead of permitting free discussion on XT - he tried to eliminate discussions on that.  He did this before.  Mastercoin was a added layer ON TOP of the bitcoin blockchain.  It is STILL 100%. But Theymos didn't like it.  Send it into total oblivion by causing the Mastercoin community to badly fracture.  Theymos single handedly destroyed the notion of packing an advanced layer on to bitcoin because he didn't like it.  

The other forum promises no censorship.  They don't intent to control discussions - even when they don't agree with them.  Well, so they say so far anyway.

[mexxer-2]

I don't think i want to move to another forum for now
Bitcointalk is still alive so no reason for us to move there

The reason to move there is because Theymos wants to single handedly control the community by declaring large block efforts like BIP101 'altcoins' and burying that discussion.  Instead of permitting free discussion on XT - he tried to eliminate discussions on that.  He did this before.  Mastercoin was a added layer ON TOP of the bitcoin blockchain.  It is STILL 100%. But Theymos didn't like it.  Send it into total oblivion by causing the Mastercoin community to badly fracture.  Theymos single handedly destroyed the notion of packing an advanced layer on to bitcoin because he didn't like it.  

The other forum promises no censorship.  They don't intent to control discussions - even when they don't agree with them.  Well, so they say so far anyway.

So you mean someone should go to a new forum just to talk about a subject(XT) which has died already, oh give me a break

[avatar_kiyoshi]

Why not even stick on both forum? when there are an alternative forum for discuss, even if that's about XT, why not on reddit forum there are a lot trolling so we need an alternative indeed.
i will try to stick on new forum when the site is finished.

no signature campaign there, no fun, i like to post and earn bitcoin directly, without using fiat crap money

I understand your point. But being part of the Bitcoin community and being a member of these forums ins't a job. People share their opinions, help others, and go in depth about the technical aspects of Bitcoin.

why it should not be a job,? no one said that bitcoin job should be the same as a regular job, everything that gives you profit is a job for me

it's not even about greediness, i just find it cool to earn bitcoin in this way, and it perfectly fit with the bitcoin theme

Well, I don't consider earning some bits through signature campaigns a job, which for you is totally different I see. To me it's pure fun earning a few bits and spend them on a domain or something else. It's basically getting rewarded for something you would do anyway.

Yes that is basically description about a job, signature campaign is basically advertisement business, where people who join, they are a salesman.

[Nancarrow]

It's a bit pants at the moment but that's just cos it's new and not many posts. I don't really like the fact that they've just copied the subforum structure from here and lifted the descriptions verbatim - get your own ideas, Roger Ver!

More generally, I think it's very blinkered to decide ahead of time that you're going to restrict your information-gathering to just one source. Bitcointalk was the first, and it's still the top of my bitcoin forums bookmark menu, but I have others. So far bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and a combined subreddit of r/bitcoin, r/bitcoinxt, r/bitcoinuncensored and r/bitcoinbeginners*.

Regardless of what you think about any censorship theymos may or may not have engaged in, the simple fact is that he *could* choose to do so. As could Roger Ver or cypherdoc. So, don't declare avenues of information out-of-bounds.


*Thinking of adding r/buttcoin. No, not joking.

[Erkallys]

There is a really little probability that I move to another forum. Bitcointalk.org is like my second house or like Facebook for a few people : everytime I have at least a minute or two I go there   !

[fish731]

I don't think i want to move to another forum for now
Bitcointalk is still alive so no reason for us to move there

The reason to move there is because Theymos wants to single handedly control the community by declaring large block efforts like BIP101 'altcoins' and burying that discussion.  Instead of permitting free discussion on XT - he tried to eliminate discussions on that.  He did this before.  Mastercoin was a added layer ON TOP of the bitcoin blockchain.  It is STILL 100%. But Theymos didn't like it.  Send it into total oblivion by causing the Mastercoin community to badly fracture.  Theymos single handedly destroyed the notion of packing an advanced layer on to bitcoin because he didn't like it.  

The other forum promises no censorship.  They don't intent to control discussions - even when they don't agree with them.  Well, so they say so far anyway.

Although Theymos supposedly banned discussion of XT here I found the wall observer thread in speculation was dominated by XT discussions for months, when it's supposed to be for discussing bitcoin price movements. Nobody deleted the XT posts as off topic, they were permitted to largely derail the thread. The wall observer thread is one of the most popular on the forum and has over 10 million views. I wouldn't say Theymos completely buried XT discussion as he didn't stop it being discussed in the wall observer.

[Nancarrow]

So you mean someone should go to a new forum just to talk about a subject(XT) which has died already, oh give me a break

You can go to the new forum and extol the virtues of Bitcoin-Core all day if you like.
And the subject of Bitcoin-XT, and BIPs 101 in particular and 100-106+ in general, and software forks and consensus forks and blockchain forks in general, has NOT died.

If it seems to you like it *has*, you might want to consider how you arrived at that perception.

[iv4n]

I will stay here on bitcointalk. This is the place where i learned most about bitcoins. And about censorship u will find it everywhere, there is to many spamers, people who talk nonsens... So i think it something that needs to exsist. So for now this the right place for me and I dont even look for another one.

[Lauda]

No. There are several reasons for this and I will not list them at the moment. They've pretty much just copied Bitcointalk (i.e. the sections). Compared to this place, that one is not worth my time.

because of the valuable domain (bitcoin.com) and some high profile backers i guess it will gain alot traction in the next years.
keep in mind that the 2 main news sources (bitcointalk + reddit) are controlled by the same young guy. that cant be a good thing.
so it is good to have an alternative.

Not biased at all.  
That's another bad thing. Random people getting high positions in a quick matter, and yet you say that bitcointalk can't be good because it's controlled by a "young guy". This young guy has more experience operating a forum (even though I disagree with him on some points) than everyone in the other place combined (judging from a quick look; didn't do a in depth research).

Instead of permitting free discussion on XT - he tried to eliminate discussions on that.  

Didn't happen on BTCT. Stop hijacking the thread.
Note: Privacy badger found a handful of trackers on that forum, but that is none of my business.

[~Bitcoin~]

I will completely stick with bitcointalk as this was the first and most popular forum for bitcoin discussion. This is similar to facebook as a social media, which can't be replaced by other such social medias.

[Mickeyb]

I understand their dislike of censorship, but will you stick with bitcointalk - or go to the new forum?  https://forum.bitcoin.com/  Do you think they can get critical mass there?

This place has become a total cesspool of assholes.  Way too many trolls and idiots.  It'd be great if there was a place for quality discussion on certain topics.

This is Internet mate. You cannot stop trolls unfortunately. You can't censor them. I mean you can but then we will be accused that we are not open minded, that we are hiding something, etc.

Even if we all go collectively to the bitcoin.com all the trolls will just follow us there!

[Demille]

I understand their dislike of censorship, but will you stick with bitcointalk - or go to the new forum?  https://forum.bitcoin.com/  Do you think they can get critical mass there?

What they probably dislike is what they claim has being censored because they dont agree with it but I'm sure they will remove or censor everything else they don't like or agree with. I think people should be free to create and use whatever forum they wish and the best one will surely prevail.

[Zawamiya]

well chances are very low for this new forum to succeed, many people wants to stick with old place with big community,why would I join a new forum when I am already a member of old and active forum?

[coalitionfor8mb]

The information density on this forum is way better compared to the new one. Their new layout is too sparse to be useful. This place has a softer color scheme, appropriate "balancing simple machine" logo and a tried and tested familiar interface. When it comes to discussing Bitcoin this place just feels home!

[UsernameBitcoin]

Establishing a new forum takes time. There's a good chance that it will become a good alternative to the current 2 big ones - and that's good.
As we can see, monopolies cause abuse and are totally against the idea of Bitcoin. Competition is really necessary here.
However, I think /r/bitcoin and bitcointalk will always exist and have much traffic, even if the quality of posts keeps on going down.

[Zombier0]

No matter what thisnforim will always be #1